The Security Of The Believer

Amen! Believers "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) the commandments BECAUSE we know Him and not in order to know Him. 1 John 2:3 - By this we know that we have come to know Him, (already know Him/already saved/demonstrative evidence) if we "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) His commandments. (This is descriptive of genuine believers) 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep (guard, observe, watch over) His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (That is descriptive of unbelievers)

Strong's Greek: 5083. τηρέω (téreó) -- to watch over, to guard (biblehub.com)

John 17:3 - And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent (which is an intimate, experiential knowledge, found only in a relationship). The term "know" implies intimate, experiential knowledge, through a relationship with Him and not merely theoretical knowledge.

False gospels revolve around the 3 SELF'S.

1. SELF promotion.
2. SELF righteousness.
3. SELF preservation.

I'm still waiting for my sheep hear my and they follow me to be put right.

But all that's happened is I have been disliked for correcting, and further disliked since by theese law givers.

I'm hoping the tides will change to

Where by the eternal security between a believer in Christ is something that should be not allowed to be talked about as if it can be lost.

There's been to many days of oppression for me here, and I would imagine many many others.

John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.

John 10:27-28

1 John 1:8-10~ If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the Truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His Word is not in us.

John 8:36 plus Romans 8:2 If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.

A sermon is meant to be long winded. When the pastor of my church preaches a sermon, I don't expect him to quote one Bible verse and then the sermon is over. That's not the same as a Biblical discussion on doctrine. You need to reason through the scriptures verse by verse and not 300-page novel by 300-page novel all at once. You do that on purpose in order to drown others out and now you are exploiting Scripture on sermons above in order to try and justify yourself.

Give me a break! I have already gone over several verses that you presented multiple times and on multiple Christian forum sites. You just don't listen, and you only seem interested in promoting yourself.

Just like the Bereans, I do search the Scriptures to see whether those things be so or not. See for example posts #730, #791, #837, #1,007, #1,042, #1,153, #1,253, #1,254, #1,258, #1,261.

John 6:37

Had a Bingo, but Darn, lost it at the back door through his eisegesis which followed.

Yep. A completed action..

We will..

Thats why we are his children..
So you would willingly return to the place where you were bitten by snakes and Moses had to put a serpent on the pole? Newsflash. No one would. And if they did. Moses is dead.

John said, that we were are born of God can not live in sin, And he said those who live in sin have never seen or known him.

where is your faith int he power of God to change people??


There is no initial salvation. If your not saved your not saved. Where do you come up with this crap?


Onne loves their wife because they are saved.

yet who loves perfectly? Only God.

Do you think God is going to recieve your bloody rags as payment for sin? Read what Jesus said.. Many in that day will come and tell him of all their good works in his name, and he ill say depart from him for he NEVER KNEW THEM..

You do not want to be one of those people


That s talking about non believing jews. The kingdom of Israel. He talks about how many gentiles will sit with him, while many children of the kingdom (Israel) wil be cast.



Come on man..

The bereans would have searched and found him to be in error..

They would have found him no better than the jews, who paul had to continually preach against.

I don't know how. But I'll share something else. I never block anyone. The reason I don't is because I'm interested in learning why people believe as they do. It better prepares me to give an answer for the hope that dwells within me. I'm about to butcher a quote that I like alot...I'm only one,but I am one. I can't do everything, but I can do something. And by God's grace, I will...Edward Everett Hale

I wondered and noticed you do spend a lot more time than others remaining tolerant,.I figured it's probably down to you being a dad of so many kids 🙂

has Edward gone AWOL since he quoted his original quote 🤔

This no doubt has helped.

I really don't know that much about him. But I have been exposed to the quote on a number of occasions from several sources.

I suppose to The lord would give you a lot more help in this field lol😂

maybe or it could.be your seeing the same old law givers giving different stories but discussed in different charismatic ways.

It's the charismatics who go all sincere with there miss understandings that does me 🤔🤨🙂

He certainly has. But children, I've found, only really need 3 things:
Firm boundaries
A set of expectations
To know that you will love them no matter what
Kind of like us with our heavenly Father.