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Mem

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We are searching for the Lord Jesus, but unfortunately we have fallen into the trap of the false prophet
Though I never really stop searching for Him while in this world, this is how I know when I've 'found' Him, in any given situation.

Jesus tell us in John 14
26But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have told you.

Peace I Leave with You

27Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled; do not be afraid.
 

JohnDB

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Well,
After reading "best of Reddit" and watching Fail Army best of 2023....and listening to Anna Alise 10xlife.

I have no faith in the English speaking world.

We are doomed!

My faith in humanity is gone.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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And another person says that the Lord Jesus is not God and that the Lord Jesus is an angel. I can no longer understand
Jesus is certainly God and equal with His Father. He did however submit to the authority of the Father in doing His will perfectly. In the Old Testament, He was a messenger at times, to carry out the Father's will to tell Abraham the message of the coming judgement upon the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham asked for The Lord to spare it for sake of the family who dwelt there. Lot's family was rescued before the Lord Jesus brought His judgement upon the cities of fire and brimstone.
So, in as far as someone who acts as a messenger, He fulfilled that roll. How?
Messenger and Angel are the same. Two different words that mean the same thing.
The difference between Jesus and the creatures named Angels is that Jesus is not a created being. Jesus, the Father and the Son all existed forever before. Jesus is Almighty God and created the universe.
Hebrew 1 explains this. He does not call the angels His Son. Then it explains how He brought Him to the world ( through miraculous conception without Mary knowing the Father in the same sense as is natural among husband and wife.) She was a virgin yet when He was to be born. He was called by the Father, "8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever..."

"5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

You see here that the Father even calls Jesus God.
Does that make sense?
 

Hassany

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Jesus is certainly God and equal with His Father. He did however submit to the authority of the Father in doing His will perfectly. In the Old Testament, He was a messenger at times, to carry out the Father's will to tell Abraham the message of the coming judgement upon the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Abraham asked for The Lord to spare it for sake of the family who dwelt there. Lot's family was rescued before the Lord Jesus brought His judgement upon the cities of fire and brimstone.
So, in as far as someone who acts as a messenger, He fulfilled that roll. How?
Messenger and Angel are the same. Two different words that mean the same thing.
The difference between Jesus and the creatures named Angels is that Jesus is not a created being. Jesus, the Father and the Son all existed forever before. Jesus is Almighty God and created the universe.
Hebrew 1 explains this. He does not call the angels His Son. Then it explains how He brought Him to the world ( through miraculous conception without Mary knowing the Father in the same sense as is natural among husband and wife.) She was a virgin yet when He was to be born. He was called by the Father, "8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever..."

"5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

You see here that the Father even calls Jesus God.
Does that make sense?
Yes, this is logical, but the other person says that the Lord Jesus did not say He is God in the Bible. I have lost confidence in many of the sayings.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#27
Yes, this is logical, but the other person says that the Lord Jesus did not say He is God in the Bible. I have lost confidence in many of the sayings.
That is a common Muslim challenge against the Bible's description of Him. That sounds like that person is still looking to Muslim teachings.
It is night here and I must wake early, but remind me tomorrow and I will try to answer a question about that if you still have one..
I'm too sleepy right now, but will look for a good teaching video on that subject that you may watch until next time.
 

Hassany

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That is a common Muslim challenge against the Bible's description of Him. That sounds like that person is still looking to Muslim teachings.
It is night here and I must wake early, but remind me tomorrow and I will try to answer a question about that if you still have one..
I'm too sleepy right now, but will look for a good teaching video on that subject that you may watch until next time.
Thank you
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#29
Yes, this is logical, but the other person says that the Lord Jesus did not say He is God in the Bible. I have lost confidence in many of the sayings.
Here is an American pastor from a Baptist church teaching what the Bible ( Christianity) says about the Deity or Godhood of Jesus.
If he speaks English too fast/ quickly, just tap or click the lower right symbol and"speed" will appear. Then scroll to .75 or .5 speed and it might be easier to understand.
Blessings to you and your family.

Is Jesus God?
 

Mem

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Yes, this is logical, but the other person says that the Lord Jesus did not say He is God in the Bible. I have lost confidence in many of the sayings.
Jesus indirectly confirmed that He is God when, after being accused of calling Himself equal to God, and was asked, "Are you the Son of God?" He replied, "Thou hast said it." and when pressed again, He said, "I Am."

Consider this. If the Son of God took on the form of a servant, in order to bring salvation to the world, and then overtly revealed Himself as God in all His glory, then how much might that plan have been disrupted?

However, He will return, the second time, in all His glory.
 
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There are several verses in the bible that describe Jesus.
Who is Jesus of the bible?
Why people are just reading 1 book only which is the holy bible, but they preached different identity of Jesus Christ.
*Some says Jesus is just a man.
*Others are saying that Jesus is a Mighty God. Because his father is the Almighty God.
*There are also preaching that the Name of the Father and the Name of the Son and the Name of the Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ, therefore the name of God is Jesus Christ. (I think it is Oneness doctrine)
*Many are saying that there is only 1 God but in 3 persons, Father, Son and Holy Ghost (The Trinitarian doctrine)
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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There are several verses in the bible that describe Jesus.
Who is Jesus of the bible?
Why people are just reading 1 book only which is the holy bible, but they preached different identity of Jesus Christ.
*Some says Jesus is just a man.
*Others are saying that Jesus is a Mighty God. Because his father is the Almighty God.
*There are also preaching that the Name of the Father and the Name of the Son and the Name of the Holy Ghost is Jesus Christ, therefore the name of God is Jesus Christ. (I think it is Oneness doctrine)
*Many are saying that there is only 1 God but in 3 persons, Father, Son and Holy Ghost (The Trinitarian doctrine)
And what say you? Who is Jesus?
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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We are searching for the Lord Jesus, but unfortunately we have fallen into the trap of the false prophet
Welcome Hassany, what Nehemiah6 gave you as the bible version to use is the right version in Arabic, He is very knowledgeable. Have no doubt, GOD had called you and will guide you the the truth while you read the bible. We are here if you need any help.

Blessings.
 

oyster67

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We are searching for the Lord Jesus, but unfortunately we have fallen into the trap of the false prophet
Fortunately, our deliverer has come. PTL! :)

Psalms 40:2
“He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.”

Welcome to CC, dear brother! :)
 

Underwhosewings

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We are searching for the Lord Jesus, but unfortunately we have fallen into the trap of the false prophet
Malachi 3:10 KJV
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
 

Hassany

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Malachi 3:10 KJV
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Could you explain to me more about this chapter?
 

Underwhosewings

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Could you explain to me more about this chapter?
I’m not really a Bible teacher.
But I have learnt to prove the LORD in prayer, speaking to Him.
Don’t be afraid of false Prophets, they seek their own gain.
As the Bible says,
James 4:2 KJV
….ye have not, because ye ask not.
Ask God, pour out your heart to Him.
That’s how we prove Him.
Psalm 55:22 KJV
Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.