The Error of KJV-Onlyism
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Right, my bad. 2 Peter 1:20-21. Thank you for catching that.
How would you understand the word "justified" in Scripture?
You would use Scripture to help you to see how it is used as a whole in Scripture.
Similarly, Job 32:8 gives us an understanding behind what the word "inspiration" actually means.
In fact, the meaning fits the context of 2 Timothy 3:16.
The King James Bible was guided by God's hand because of the many evidences I have already shown to you before that you have rejected. I provided 10 categories that prove the KJB is the Pure Word of God for today. Granted, I even have 101 Reasons for the KJB if that is not enough. But I am not even sure they would convince you because you appear to be hardened against the truth on this Bible topic.
I do not regard the KJB preface, the marginal notes, or what they thought outside the translation work itself as having any bearing.
God is still able to operate in a person's life despite them thinking carnally or incorrectly at other times. Why do you think Jesus said to Peter, "Get behind me Satan?" Yet, at another time, Jesus said that the Father revealed to Peter that He was the Son of God? Again, men can at times operate by God and his working and at others times this is not the case. So this is not a good argument.
How would you understand the word "justified" in Scripture?
You would use Scripture to help you to see how it is used as a whole in Scripture.
Similarly, Job 32:8 gives us an understanding behind what the word "inspiration" actually means.
In fact, the meaning fits the context of 2 Timothy 3:16.
The King James Bible was guided by God's hand because of the many evidences I have already shown to you before that you have rejected. I provided 10 categories that prove the KJB is the Pure Word of God for today. Granted, I even have 101 Reasons for the KJB if that is not enough. But I am not even sure they would convince you because you appear to be hardened against the truth on this Bible topic.
I do not regard the KJB preface, the marginal notes, or what they thought outside the translation work itself as having any bearing.
God is still able to operate in a person's life despite them thinking carnally or incorrectly at other times. Why do you think Jesus said to Peter, "Get behind me Satan?" Yet, at another time, Jesus said that the Father revealed to Peter that He was the Son of God? Again, men can at times operate by God and his working and at others times this is not the case. So this is not a good argument.
Or none of them.
Also, God can legitimately speak through His word ten different ways to ten different people, because those people are in ten different contexts.
No, you don't. God will judge you by the words you have; they need neither be complete nor completely accurate.
Modern translations may not include words that the KJV includes, but that is a different issue.
Hogwash and codswollop.
Also, God can legitimately speak through His word ten different ways to ten different people, because those people are in ten different contexts.
No, you don't. God will judge you by the words you have; they need neither be complete nor completely accurate.
Modern translations may not include words that the KJV includes, but that is a different issue.
Hogwash and codswollop.
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Yes, you do need the Spirit to discern correctly, but if the Word is corrupted that is not going to help any. God will not guide a person to believe a false Modern Bible because God will show them all the false things that are in them. God will guide a person to believe God's words and not to question them like what Textual Criticism does.
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This is insane. That's totally a self imploding belief that has no basis even in reality.
God's words do not have to be completely accurate in order to judge us?
Okay. Think about how this does not work in reality.
If you got pulled over for going over 45 miles per hour, and you were going 50, yet the sign said 65 miles per hour, and you got a ticket, whereby you would have to pay money, you would be upset. Yet, in other areas, the cops respected the signs but not in the one you got pulled over at. In other words, You cannot trust what the speed limit sign said in all instances or what kind of judgment they would give if you could not trust what the sign said. That would be like saying God's words are not trustworthy. This is why such a belief is silly and self defeating. You could never truly know what was true or false unless it was glaringly obvious it would be something that God would not inspire men to write.
God's words do not have to be completely accurate in order to judge us?
Okay. Think about how this does not work in reality.
If you got pulled over for going over 45 miles per hour, and you were going 50, yet the sign said 65 miles per hour, and you got a ticket, whereby you would have to pay money, you would be upset. Yet, in other areas, the cops respected the signs but not in the one you got pulled over at. In other words, You cannot trust what the speed limit sign said in all instances or what kind of judgment they would give if you could not trust what the sign said. That would be like saying God's words are not trustworthy. This is why such a belief is silly and self defeating. You could never truly know what was true or false unless it was glaringly obvious it would be something that God would not inspire men to write.
While it may align with Paul's words, there is no logical connection between the two. Elihu is not talking about inspiration to write Scripture, period. It's simply not relevant.
Consider these:
Genesis 1:3 - 5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
John 1:4-5 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
These three passages should be enough to show you that your approach, while not completely wrong, is subject to erroneous conclusions. Just because a word is used in one place doesn't mean another use of it carries all the same meaning, nuance, implication, and application as the original.
You have the cart before the horse. That aside, I do indeed reject your position and I will continue to do so, because the KJV has errors, which fatally refutes the wacky idea that its translation was inspired.
I am firmly set against rank error being promoted as Christian truth.
Since you refuse to read it, your ignorance is your problem.
And yet, somehow God's Spirit is unable to work unless the person has the "pure, preserved word of God" in their hands? Do you realize how utterly stupid that sounds?
Consider these:
Genesis 1:3 - 5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
John 1:4-5 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
These three passages should be enough to show you that your approach, while not completely wrong, is subject to erroneous conclusions. Just because a word is used in one place doesn't mean another use of it carries all the same meaning, nuance, implication, and application as the original.
You have the cart before the horse. That aside, I do indeed reject your position and I will continue to do so, because the KJV has errors, which fatally refutes the wacky idea that its translation was inspired.
I am firmly set against rank error being promoted as Christian truth.
Since you refuse to read it, your ignorance is your problem.
And yet, somehow God's Spirit is unable to work unless the person has the "pure, preserved word of God" in their hands? Do you realize how utterly stupid that sounds?
Again, discernment is not the standard. The Bible is the standard ultimately. To say that discernment is the standard is Spiritism or the New Age. God has written down His word for us to believe in so that we can be saved and do His will. Yes, one needs to have the Spirit, but this is if we believe and obey His Words first.
Acts 5:32
"And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him."
How do we obey God?
By keeping His words as found in the Bible and not by some New Age thinking or prayer, or vision or dream, or by some voice talking to us, etcetera.
Acts 5:32
"And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him."
How do we obey God?
By keeping His words as found in the Bible and not by some New Age thinking or prayer, or vision or dream, or by some voice talking to us, etcetera.