Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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Trump wins Iowa caucus in historic landslide, urges unity to ‘straighten out death and destruction’

 

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Why all this fuss about the Bidens? I don’t think many people here are pondering to cast their vote for him anyway.

It would be more interesting if there was a balanced debate about the Republican candidates. Not a Trump only debate where the point seems to be bashing the other candidates.
 

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Why all this fuss about the Bidens? I don’t think many people here are pondering to cast their vote for him anyway.

It would be more interesting if there was a balanced debate about the Republican candidates. Not a Trump only debate where the point seems to be bashing the other candidates.
Nikki Haley was rolled out as one of those alternatives, but she is simply a clone of Hillary Clinton.

Ron Desantis is rolled out as another alternative, but he is fully funded puppet of big money donors from Wall Street. Just a globalist in disguise.

There are only two choices -- Globalist or Populist.

You could argue that Vivek was a Populist but now that he has dropped out it is pointless to analyze that.

It doesn't matter if it is Biden, Obama, Haley or Desantis, they are all globalists. they will promise different things and complain about different things, but the result will be the same.

Joe Biden, or Lunch Pale Joe which I prefer, the Joe Biden from Scranton Pa, you know the guy worried about paying the mortgage (on his three mansions), that guy is simply the phony front the globalists will put up to steal your vote. They will do the same with neocon Haley and Desanctimonious.
 

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With Vivek's full endorsement Trump is now right around 60% of the vote.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/llY5CbVdbeI

Ron and Nikki split the rest. I suspect whoever comes in third in New Hampshire drops out. Although that will certainly boost the one who remains, it will also make it very clear that they have no chance against Trump.

I doubt it will mean 60/40, rather it will most likely mean 70/30 with others simply not voting in the primary.

Also, how much money will the donors continue to burn on these two candidates who have no chance.

Ron has spent 35 million in Iowa between his campaign and the 3 superpacs that support him, Nikki Haley has spent a similar amount. By comparison Trump spent about half that in Iowa, around $18 million.
 

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Trump wins Iowa caucus in historic landslide, urges unity to ‘straighten out death and destruction’

I did not know that 'death and destruction' needed straightening out; I thought that 'crooked' was their natural state. ;)
 

ZNP

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Do not worry, this is not Xenophobic, Biden built this wall, not Trump.

BREAKING: Riot Fences up at White House.


Also the US elected Biden to get rid of these embarrassing riots in Washington DC. The ones in 2020, those were caused by Trump, these ones here, they also are caused by Trump. It is very difficult to explain, so just take their word for it, BTW, have you gotten your 10th booster shot? Pandemic X is coming.
 

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At present it looks like Haley came in third, she should drop out. I think she pumped 10x as much money as Desantis did. It should be between Trump and Desantis to see who the voters want. Kudos to Vivek for dropping out.
I guess Haley will not drop out before New Hampshire. If she fails there she will most likely drop out.
I wonder... I think it's clear a large part of the establishment supports Haley. That could mean continued $ support.

Of course, the donors don't want to waste their money and will want one of DeSantis or Haley to drop so not to waste delegates that can't be reclaimed. But DeSantis and Haley are neck-n-neck. I would just guess there's going to momentum for both to stick after NH.

Ron Desantis is rolled out as another alternative, but he is fully funded puppet of big money donors from Wall Street. Just a globalist in disguise.
1. Can you add any factual sourced support to the statement DeSantis gets more money donors from Wall St than Trump?

I haven't seen any evidence to support that. I've seen that giant Blackstone investing (not to be confused with Backrock) CEO Steve Schwarzman put big money support for Trump in 2020. That from 4/2023, things may have changed.

We know Trump gave US corps a huge tax break and gave the US military a funding increase. In context, that may make some sense, but I wouldn't call those Populist actions.

2. Can you add any factual sourced support to the statement DeSantis is a Globalist (specifically making a contrast between Ron and Don, as it would be meaningless if they both do whatever it is)? I haven't seen any evidence he's a Globalist.
 

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NYers respond to Trump giving $25 million to NYC.

Even New York Wants Trump Now! It's All But Over Biden Now


You don't want to miss the end when the crowds are cheering for Joe Biden.
 

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Why all this fuss about the Bidens? I don’t think many people here are pondering to cast their vote for him anyway.

It would be more interesting if there was a balanced debate about the Republican candidates. Not a Trump only debate where the point seems to be bashing the other candidates.
Would you please explain how it is you state you have always been saved? (from your profile) The Bible does not support that conclusion, so I am curious as to how you interpret salvation

Thank you
 

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I wonder... I think it's clear a large part of the establishment supports Haley. That could mean continued $ support.

Of course, the donors don't want to waste their money and will want one of DeSantis or Haley to drop so not to waste delegates that can't be reclaimed. But DeSantis and Haley are neck-n-neck. I would just guess there's going to momentum for both to stick after NH.


1. Can you add any factual sourced support to the statement DeSantis gets more money donors from Wall St than Trump?

I haven't seen any evidence to support that. I've seen that giant Blackstone investing (not to be confused with Backrock) CEO Steve Schwarzman put big money support for Trump in 2020. That from 4/2023, things may have changed.

We know Trump gave US corps a huge tax break and gave the US military a funding increase. In context, that may make some sense, but I wouldn't call those Populist actions.

2. Can you add any factual sourced support to the statement DeSantis is a Globalist (specifically making a contrast between Ron and Don, as it would be meaningless if they both do whatever it is)? I haven't seen any evidence he's a Globalist.
1. https://justthenews.com/politics-po...s-desantiss-online-backers-nastiest-stupidest

Flips on Ukraine because of his financial puppeteers.

2. His superpac CEO is a Karl Rove protege

https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https://then...ac-served-as-top-aid-to-protege-of-karl-rove/

3. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/06/desantis-donors-florida-election-00114080

4. Ron DeSantis’ Hamptons fundraiser flops — while RFK Jr., Trump rake it in

https://nypost.com/2023/07/26/ron-desantis-fundraisers-flop-while-rfk-jr-trump-rake-it-in/
 

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There are only two kinds of candidates in this election: Globalists and Populists.

The Globalists support one world government and there are a lot of financial reasons for big business to do that. However, if you are a globalist you obviously do not put much stock in the Bible or the book of Revelation nor are you worried about how corrupt and powerful a one world government would be. Generally that would refer to foolish people, but CEOs and the board of directors of these Fortune 500 companies are not "fools" in the general sense, so this is very clearly being led by Satanists and pagans at the very top (Davos, IMF, etc).

The only populist in the race is Trump. Populists want to keep the USA strong, independent and a superpower.

Everything else is window dressing.

You can determine if it is a critical issue or not by looking through that lense. That is why the Populists say "shut down the border or shut down the government". Globalists support an open border. The latest "border bill" provides money for transporting illegals around the country and gives the first 5,000 a day amnesty!

Populists are extremely concerned about the US going bankrupt, Globalists aren't. If the US is bankrupt they can't thwart their plans for one world government.

Globalists want to shut off the US oil and gas production because full spectrum energy dominance will make the US a strong, prosperous superpower. The discussion about climate change is fluff, trying to get useful idiots like AOC and Greta to get the masses to support them. Populists want the US to have full spectrum energy dominance.

Never trumpers are globalists. They don't care about off color jokes or Tweets at 2am. What they do care about is one world government.
 

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Joy Reid reveals her hearts desire.

Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.


Leftists accuse you of what they are trying to do. They are like pinochio, the more they lie the more their nose grows and they think they can smell a liar.
 

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Joy Reid reveals her hearts desire.

Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.


Leftists accuse you of what they are trying to do. They are like pinochio, the more they lie the more their nose grows and they think they can smell a liar.
Joy Reid is a hateful racist. There’s really no other way to say it. But then again, so are most of those on MSNBC.

All they want to do is divide. Most Americans don’t care about someone’s race. She wakes every day thinking about race. It must be a horrible existence.
 

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Joy Reid is a hateful racist. There’s really no other way to say it. But then again, so are most of those on MSNBC.

All they want to do is divide. Most Americans don’t care about someone’s race. She wakes every day thinking about race. It must be a horrible existence.
Fulfillment of prophecy. We kicked racism out of the country, swept and made it clean, and then this demon came back with seven more friends (LGBTQ+)
 

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Joy Reid is a hateful racist. There’s really no other way to say it. But then again, so are most of those on MSNBC.

All they want to do is divide. Most Americans don’t care about someone’s race. She wakes every day thinking about race. It must be a horrible existence.
My prayer is that everyone in Iowa and Nebraska, and N. Dakota, S. Dakota, Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma, Illinois, basically everyone in the Midwest hears this. Everyone should know how much they hate you. MSNBC's ratings in the Midwest and Appalachia should be 0. I pray her words would be shouted from the rooftop, from X, from Youtube, even from Facebook. NAFTA let everyone in the rust belt know they hated you, the term deplorable and irredeemable let all of Appalachia know they hated you, and now this word from Joy Reid could not be any clearer, they hate everyone in the Midwest.
 

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Would you please explain how it is you state you have always been saved? (from your profile) The Bible does not support that conclusion, so I am curious as to how you interpret salvation

Thank you
I’m sorry but I won’t let you fox me out of the Trump debate.
 

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I’m sorry but I won’t let you fox me out of the Trump debate.
that sounds like any answer you might offer, to a perfectly reasonable question, would cause others to question more than your
part in this or any other debate

you just might actually be 'outfoxed' :sneaky: