TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!
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lol, I admit that years ago I mine own self was reluctant to explore the authenticity of an book in the Bible(it struck me as embarrassing as if I was doubting Gods word,shame ect.) At one point I even avoided it but I would see bit and pieces of it in other things I was researching. I'm not Catholic and so never had the desire to read any of their writings from when or how they gathered and interpreted the Christian letters/books but eventually I broke down and did it in hopes I could clear my mind of it. Now though afterwards I see Jerome differently that in the beginning I thought him to be an conspirator in it but I think now he was trying to point it out to Bishops,Cardinals and Popes and realized he was only an priest and scribe.
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Looking into it....
F. H. A. Scrivener (1813–1891) remarked that at Matt. 22:28; 23:25; 27:52; 28:3, 4, 19, 20; Mark 7:18, 19, 26; 10:1; 12:22; 15:46; Luke 1:16, 61; 2:43; 9:1, 15; 11:49; John 1:28; 10:8; 13:20, Erasmus followed the readings of Minuscule 1 (Caesarean text-type).[26] Scrivener showed that some texts were incorporated from the Vulgate (for example, Acts 9:6). Daniel B. Wallace enumerated that in 1,838 places (1,005 are translatable) the Textus Receptus differs from the Byzantine text-type.
F. H. A. Scrivener (1813–1891) remarked that at Matt. 22:28; 23:25; 27:52; 28:3, 4, 19, 20; Mark 7:18, 19, 26; 10:1; 12:22; 15:46; Luke 1:16, 61; 2:43; 9:1, 15; 11:49; John 1:28; 10:8; 13:20, Erasmus followed the readings of Minuscule 1 (Caesarean text-type).[26] Scrivener showed that some texts were incorporated from the Vulgate (for example, Acts 9:6). Daniel B. Wallace enumerated that in 1,838 places (1,005 are translatable) the Textus Receptus differs from the Byzantine text-type.
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when the last day of Judgement comes it will be an end of an age, not the end of the world buddy, this is what is believed.
The new testament is the old testament made newer buddy that's all.
So the old testament is not obsolete,
It's just carried on into the new testament.
Further more buddy the rapture theology may well be a very late introduction started by fundamentalist theologians in the 1800s.
So the very fact that's scholars here claim everything is correct in what they say may not be true.
So you have to take a step back and know exactly what your engaging in, as some theologian fundamentalists have been known to be locked up in nut houses, and have Violent tendancies.
But I know you've already said You let God take care of things
But when you persistency engage in topics that can't be proven.
Its where you end up becoming the fundamentalist of the wrong type,
As well you've noticed 😊
Well buddy the word rapture means to go up
But which direction is up anyhow.
Then buddy the word rapture doesn't appear in the bible.
The word rapture is more associated with dinosaurs
So you have to ask when we get into this topic are we entering the scholarship for the apocalypse of zombies lol.
Because no one knows truly buddy
What you'll find is some preacher long ago got idolised for claiming he knew every word the book of revelation meant.
Since then buddy many more idols have emerged.
Basically buddy they want to be idolised too 😊
Again you have to wonder have we stepped into the zombie apocalypse
Because they introduce a new policy that if you don't agree your a preterist who gets raptured to hell.
So buddy this sounds like the zombi apocalypse
The new testament is the old testament made newer buddy that's all.
So the old testament is not obsolete,
It's just carried on into the new testament.
Further more buddy the rapture theology may well be a very late introduction started by fundamentalist theologians in the 1800s.
So the very fact that's scholars here claim everything is correct in what they say may not be true.
So you have to take a step back and know exactly what your engaging in, as some theologian fundamentalists have been known to be locked up in nut houses, and have Violent tendancies.
But I know you've already said You let God take care of things
But when you persistency engage in topics that can't be proven.
Its where you end up becoming the fundamentalist of the wrong type,
As well you've noticed 😊
Well buddy the word rapture means to go up
But which direction is up anyhow.
Then buddy the word rapture doesn't appear in the bible.
The word rapture is more associated with dinosaurs
So you have to ask when we get into this topic are we entering the scholarship for the apocalypse of zombies lol.
Because no one knows truly buddy
What you'll find is some preacher long ago got idolised for claiming he knew every word the book of revelation meant.
Since then buddy many more idols have emerged.
Basically buddy they want to be idolised too 😊
Again you have to wonder have we stepped into the zombie apocalypse
Because they introduce a new policy that if you don't agree your a preterist who gets raptured to hell.
So buddy this sounds like the zombi apocalypse
Interesting sermon notes from 450 to 600 AD........
Here’s the text of De fine mundi, as given by Caspari. I have placed the key words in bold.
For all the saints and elect of God, prior to the tribulation that is to come, are gathered and are taken [up] to the Lord, lest they see the confusion, that will overwhelm the whole world because of our sins.
But the text given by Verhelst (p.524, l.36-39) is different:
https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog...passage-and-its-greek-origins/comment-page-1/
For all the saints and elect of God, prior to the tribulation that is to come, are gathered and will be taken by the Lord, lest they see the confusion, that will overwhelm the whole world because of our sins.
Here’s the text of De fine mundi, as given by Caspari. I have placed the key words in bold.
Omnes enim sancti et electi Dei, ante tribulationem quae uentura est, colliguntur et ad Dominum adsumuntur, ne quando uideant confusionem, quae uniuersum propter peccata nostra obruet mundum.
For all the saints and elect of God, prior to the tribulation that is to come, are gathered and are taken [up] to the Lord, lest they see the confusion, that will overwhelm the whole world because of our sins.
But the text given by Verhelst (p.524, l.36-39) is different:
Omnes enim sancti et electi Dei, ante tribulationem quae uentura est, colliguntur et a Domino adsumentur, ne quando uideant confusionem, quae uniuersum propter peccata nostra obruit mundum.
https://www.roger-pearse.com/weblog...passage-and-its-greek-origins/comment-page-1/
For all the saints and elect of God, prior to the tribulation that is to come, are gathered and will be taken by the Lord, lest they see the confusion, that will overwhelm the whole world because of our sins.
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I appreciate your kindness to me. It's a rare thing when someone exercises compassion. But you needn't worry about me.
As far as scholarship goes, it's simply a concerted pursuit of a subject to find truth. But people don't begin their pursuit of a subject as a blank slate. So in the pursuit of truth, very often we accept what we already believe as truth. When we do this, it shapes how we view what we are learning. So if this tendency is not guarded against, error will occur in the scholarship. This is particularly true of biblical scholarship because not only does it require study, but revelation as well.
If I told you a new doctrine, carefully made my points using scripture, and asked your thoughts, you would review my arguments and give an answer. Would it make a difference to you if I had received the information I was sharing from a friend of a friend who received it from a young woman who received them through a series visions on her sick bed?
As far as scholarship goes, it's simply a concerted pursuit of a subject to find truth. But people don't begin their pursuit of a subject as a blank slate. So in the pursuit of truth, very often we accept what we already believe as truth. When we do this, it shapes how we view what we are learning. So if this tendency is not guarded against, error will occur in the scholarship. This is particularly true of biblical scholarship because not only does it require study, but revelation as well.
If I told you a new doctrine, carefully made my points using scripture, and asked your thoughts, you would review my arguments and give an answer. Would it make a difference to you if I had received the information I was sharing from a friend of a friend who received it from a young woman who received them through a series visions on her sick bed?
I understand your point.
This is the what I feel is the evidence I can find where the current modern day theology of the rapture started around about late 1700s to early 1800s
Rapture
For other uses, see Rapture (disambiguation).
The Rapture is an eschatological position held by some Christians, particularly those of American evangelicalism, consisting of an end-time event when all dead Christian believers will be resurrected and, joined with Christians who are still alive, together will rise "in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air."[1] The origin of the term extends from the First Epistle to the Thessalonians in the Bible, which uses the Greek word harpazo (Ancient Greek: ἁρπάζω), meaning "to snatch away" or "to seize". This view of eschatology is referred to as dispensational premillennialism, a form of futurism that considers various prophecies in the Bible as remaining unfulfilled and occurring in the future.
Ok so now I would like to start a new theology
Was abraham born in Iraq
The Bible states that Abraham was raised in “Ur of the Chaldeans” (Ur Kasdim). Most scholars agree that Ur Kasdim was the Sumerian city Ur, today Tall al-Muqayyar (or Tall al-Mughair), about 200 miles (300 km) southeast of Baghdad in lower Mesopotamia.25 Dec 2023
https://www.britannica.com › Abrah...
Abraham | Facts & Significance - Britannica
So you have to wonder where is the true temple 🤔
This is the what I feel is the evidence I can find where the current modern day theology of the rapture started around about late 1700s to early 1800s
Rapture
For other uses, see Rapture (disambiguation).
The Rapture is an eschatological position held by some Christians, particularly those of American evangelicalism, consisting of an end-time event when all dead Christian believers will be resurrected and, joined with Christians who are still alive, together will rise "in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air."[1] The origin of the term extends from the First Epistle to the Thessalonians in the Bible, which uses the Greek word harpazo (Ancient Greek: ἁρπάζω), meaning "to snatch away" or "to seize". This view of eschatology is referred to as dispensational premillennialism, a form of futurism that considers various prophecies in the Bible as remaining unfulfilled and occurring in the future.
Ok so now I would like to start a new theology
Was abraham born in Iraq
The Bible states that Abraham was raised in “Ur of the Chaldeans” (Ur Kasdim). Most scholars agree that Ur Kasdim was the Sumerian city Ur, today Tall al-Muqayyar (or Tall al-Mughair), about 200 miles (300 km) southeast of Baghdad in lower Mesopotamia.25 Dec 2023
https://www.britannica.com › Abrah...
Abraham | Facts & Significance - Britannica
So you have to wonder where is the true temple 🤔
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Here's another spiritual truth about how God takes what satan tries to destroy.This image that people worship,the image even had Jonah follow his flesh.Even though he was a prophet he did not want to listen to God and went the opposite direction to Joppa.
Spiritually if you are not going to follow God,then you are following the prince of this world.It is signified by him being swallowed up and in the belly of the beast.And only when he repents and gives glory to God is he spit out.He didn't just get spit out into the water but on the shore.
Which is a type of firmament/Ark.There's the water,which is the water,and the land which is the blood,then there's the sea shore which God promised Abraham that his descendants will be as numerous as the sand on the sea shore.They are those who are born of the spirit.
Spirit,water,blood.By him all things consist.If you want to look for him with your spiritual eyes,look for the spirit,water,and the blood.
When the Jonah was spit out of the belly of the beast unto the shore,out came living waters.The beast was made a new creature in the image of the Living God.
All these revelations on the beast and it's image is new to me.And I've have seen others talk about this subject before.But it actually goes very deep and it confounds me.God is amazing.
Spiritually if you are not going to follow God,then you are following the prince of this world.It is signified by him being swallowed up and in the belly of the beast.And only when he repents and gives glory to God is he spit out.He didn't just get spit out into the water but on the shore.
Which is a type of firmament/Ark.There's the water,which is the water,and the land which is the blood,then there's the sea shore which God promised Abraham that his descendants will be as numerous as the sand on the sea shore.They are those who are born of the spirit.
Spirit,water,blood.By him all things consist.If you want to look for him with your spiritual eyes,look for the spirit,water,and the blood.
When the Jonah was spit out of the belly of the beast unto the shore,out came living waters.The beast was made a new creature in the image of the Living God.
All these revelations on the beast and it's image is new to me.And I've have seen others talk about this subject before.But it actually goes very deep and it confounds me.God is amazing.
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This is the cheapest and most insulting kind of arrogance. It's the chat version of putting your fingers in your ears and repeating "LALALALA".
Okay.... I guess. You don't address anything said and insult. Another huge red flag your view might have some problems. From the time John shows up on the scene announcing Jesus, to Jesus Himself on the way to the cross, points to warning THEM about the coming judgement on the COVENENT BREAKERS at the END OF THE AGE. Jesus told us very clearly with the parables of the fig tree, and especially in "The Parable of the Tenants".
My words are very clear and easy to understand, so to act as if my unhinged rantings aren't worth your time is pretty insulting. I haven't read any credible or good examples of scripturally supported arguments coming from you either, and believe the arguments I've put forth have gone completely unanswered, nor have you demonstrated why they're bad. Nope you just dismiss it with an insult. Whatever, I'm not impressed.
Okay.... I guess. You don't address anything said and insult. Another huge red flag your view might have some problems. From the time John shows up on the scene announcing Jesus, to Jesus Himself on the way to the cross, points to warning THEM about the coming judgement on the COVENENT BREAKERS at the END OF THE AGE. Jesus told us very clearly with the parables of the fig tree, and especially in "The Parable of the Tenants".
My words are very clear and easy to understand, so to act as if my unhinged rantings aren't worth your time is pretty insulting. I haven't read any credible or good examples of scripturally supported arguments coming from you either, and believe the arguments I've put forth have gone completely unanswered, nor have you demonstrated why they're bad. Nope you just dismiss it with an insult. Whatever, I'm not impressed.
Here's another spiritual truth about how God takes what satan tries to destroy.This image that people worship,the image even had Jonah follow his flesh.Even though he was a prophet he did not want to listen to God and went the opposite direction to Joppa.
Spiritually if you are not going to follow God,then you are following the prince of this world.It is signified by him being swallowed up and in the belly of the beast.And only when he repents and gives glory to God is he spit out.He didn't just get spit out into the water but on the shore.
Which is a type of firmament/Ark.There's the water,which is the water,and the land which is the blood,then there's the sea shore which God promised Abraham that his descendants will be as numerous as the sand on the sea shore.They are those who are born of the spirit.
Spirit,water,blood.By him all things consist.If you want to look for him with your spiritual eyes,look for the spirit,water,and the blood.
When the Jonah was spit out of the belly of the beast unto the shore,out came living waters.The beast was made a new creature in the image of the Living God.
All these revelations on the beast and it's image is new to me.And I've have seen others talk about this subject before.But it actually goes very deep and it confounds me.God is amazing.
Spiritually if you are not going to follow God,then you are following the prince of this world.It is signified by him being swallowed up and in the belly of the beast.And only when he repents and gives glory to God is he spit out.He didn't just get spit out into the water but on the shore.
Which is a type of firmament/Ark.There's the water,which is the water,and the land which is the blood,then there's the sea shore which God promised Abraham that his descendants will be as numerous as the sand on the sea shore.They are those who are born of the spirit.
Spirit,water,blood.By him all things consist.If you want to look for him with your spiritual eyes,look for the spirit,water,and the blood.
When the Jonah was spit out of the belly of the beast unto the shore,out came living waters.The beast was made a new creature in the image of the Living God.
All these revelations on the beast and it's image is new to me.And I've have seen others talk about this subject before.But it actually goes very deep and it confounds me.God is amazing.
The people on the boat where angry with Jonah because A storm had came.
God sent the storm because he wanted Jonah back.
Jonah was thrown overboard, and God rescued him with a whale.
So God had sent the storm, and layed it on the hearts of the people on the boat to chuck him over
God kept him in the whale for 3 days. And when he arose from the whale, some say he rose with a new spirit, brave and full of courage to go and preach the word 😊.
That's how I read it 😂
He could have worshiped an image to @Lifted_by_the_word by the word to your right 😊
I was wondering if your intention is to also remove the Book of Hosea, the Book of Ruth, eight chapters of Ezekiel, and carve out huge chunks from Isaiah, Jeremiah and most other prophets?
You might want to consider the following:
Act 20:28
Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son.
Act 20:29
I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30
Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them.
You might want to consider the following:
Act 20:28
Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son.
Act 20:29
I know that after I am gone fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30
Even from among your own group men will arise, teaching perversions of the truth to draw the disciples away after them.
While you're looking into that... take a listen to these lectures by Dr Paul Martin Henebury covering that subject (to be clear, he's not in favor of the two-document hypothesis or Q):
[the first link takes you to a series of 6 messages... the second link takes you to 3 more messages: Matthew Introduction, Parts 1, 2, 3]
https://www.telosministries.com/the-synoptic-problem-1-presuppositions/
https://www.telosministries.com/audio-lectures-on-matthew-introduction-pt-1-2/
[it's important to listen carefully, because sometimes he's quoting from books/scholars he does not agree with, whereas other times ones he does agree with, so listening carefully will cut down on potential confusion. lol]
[the first link takes you to a series of 6 messages... the second link takes you to 3 more messages: Matthew Introduction, Parts 1, 2, 3]
https://www.telosministries.com/the-synoptic-problem-1-presuppositions/
https://www.telosministries.com/audio-lectures-on-matthew-introduction-pt-1-2/
[it's important to listen carefully, because sometimes he's quoting from books/scholars he does not agree with, whereas other times ones he does agree with, so listening carefully will cut down on potential confusion. lol]
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Thanks buddy. I bookmarked the post and listening now.
The thing is......on the "macro-scale" (Book of Hosea for example), the message from God is bedrock imperturbable.
To me the minuscule "textual criticism" supported variants end up being quite trivial.
Good summary here. Nothing to worry about IMO.
https://www.bereanpatriot.com/major...ext-vs-textus-receptus-textual-criticism-101/
The thing is......on the "macro-scale" (Book of Hosea for example), the message from God is bedrock imperturbable.
To me the minuscule "textual criticism" supported variants end up being quite trivial.
Good summary here. Nothing to worry about IMO.
https://www.bereanpatriot.com/major...ext-vs-textus-receptus-textual-criticism-101/
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If you are referring to Margaret Macdonald, that notion has been thoroughly debunked here (many times).
You could search out old posts I made on that subject... or ones posted by @ewq1938 showing same (though he and I have differing "rapture-timing" views--I hold to "pre-trib," whereas ewq1938 is "post-trib," if memory serves...)
Two sentences of her writings were removed, which when viewed proved she was not supporting a "pre-trib rapture" idea, but a "post-trib rapture" one.
You could search out old posts I made on that subject... or ones posted by @ewq1938 showing same (though he and I have differing "rapture-timing" views--I hold to "pre-trib," whereas ewq1938 is "post-trib," if memory serves...)
Two sentences of her writings were removed, which when viewed proved she was not supporting a "pre-trib rapture" idea, but a "post-trib rapture" one.
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Did you know they only banned animal sacrifice in the temple of India in 2014
And now there reopening it, just been on the news today there reopening a temple 400 years old
Maybe your all looking in the wrong place 🤔
Indian court bans animal sacrifice in 2014
Rights activists hail Himachal Pradesh's decision to outlaw 'barbaric' slaughter of animals in Hindu temples
Agence France-Presse in Shimla
Tue 2 Sep 2014
9 years old
A court in remote northern India has banned a long tradition of sacrificing animals for religious reasons, deeming the practice cruel and barbaric.
The high court in Himachal Pradesh has asked police and other officials to enforce its ban on the slaughter, mainly of goats in Hindu temples throughout the state.
"No person will sacrifice any animal in any place of worship. It includes adjoining lands and buildings," the two-judge bench of the court ruled late on Monday.
"A startling revelation has been made … thousands of animals are sacrificed every year in the name of worship," the court said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/02/india-court-bans-animal-sacrifice-hindu-temples
And now there reopening it, just been on the news today there reopening a temple 400 years old
Maybe your all looking in the wrong place 🤔
Indian court bans animal sacrifice in 2014
Rights activists hail Himachal Pradesh's decision to outlaw 'barbaric' slaughter of animals in Hindu temples
Agence France-Presse in Shimla
Tue 2 Sep 2014
9 years old
A court in remote northern India has banned a long tradition of sacrificing animals for religious reasons, deeming the practice cruel and barbaric.
The high court in Himachal Pradesh has asked police and other officials to enforce its ban on the slaughter, mainly of goats in Hindu temples throughout the state.
"No person will sacrifice any animal in any place of worship. It includes adjoining lands and buildings," the two-judge bench of the court ruled late on Monday.
"A startling revelation has been made … thousands of animals are sacrificed every year in the name of worship," the court said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/02/india-court-bans-animal-sacrifice-hindu-temples
"The Parable of the Tenants".
I think you meant "The Parable of the Landowner"?
People make the same mistake with "The parable of the Forgiving Father".....
BTW.....when Jesus curses the fig tree, he is cursing false empty works-based religion.
Not any nation person or group of people in particular.
Thanks buddy.
I think you meant "The Parable of the Landowner"?
People make the same mistake with "The parable of the Forgiving Father".....
BTW.....when Jesus curses the fig tree, he is cursing false empty works-based religion.
Not any nation person or group of people in particular.
Thanks buddy.
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I think your already explaining it I want quoting that to disagree but to show that it supports what your saying your position
each verse is explained by the context of what’s being said we are t meant to pluck out a single verse and try to interpret it independently was the point look where that verse is going what Jesus is talking about
Do you remenber when he entered Jerusalem ?
“And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.”
Matthew 21:9 KJV
some accepted him that phrase is from prophecy it’s a recognition of the messiah the promised king of Israel
“took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
John 12:13 KJV
at the end of the world every human soul will acknolwedge him he was explaining that Jerusalem wouldn’t see him again until he returned everyone will see and acknolwedge him it’s not just going to be the people living on earth but all the dead are going to be raised when he returns
Do you at all see what I’m saying ? Jesus saying this
“Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
Matthew 23:31-39 KJV
make sense ? If they rejected tbier promised king it left then desolate he was the promise of thier covenant . When Jesus returns
“Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
John 5:28-29 KJV
he didn’t have to return at any particular time for them to see and acknowledge him is my point th owe same who rejected him then can be raised up in ten thousand years and see him again because of the resurrection part they could sleep for ages and still see him at the same time everyone else does that verse is part of what he’s saying it doesn’t have or need an independent explaination is all I’m saying
If the dead are raised up when he returns that verse has absolutely no impact on the timing of anything because even though they died it’s not finished yet they’ll see him as everyone will but not until this happens
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV
Those who were dead before and those still alive that day will all see him all of creation Will and they also will acknowledge him
“in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,
and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.”
1 Corinthians 15:52
everyone is going to see him when he returns those long dead and those left alive even those who pierced him will be raised up and see him
“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
Revelation 1:7 KJV
There are two testaments brother the second begins with israel and spreads to the whole world the messiah was to come twice once at the end of each testament. There are two layers that need fulfillment Christ came and fulfilled the Old Testament promise of him but there’s another promise th at he will come back and raise the dead and judge the earth some to everlasting life others to everlasting contempt and destruction
everyone will see Jesus again and everyone will acknolwedge his name
“for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”
Romans 14:10-12 KJV
everyone’s going to see Jesus again and it will be at a time they are all forced to acknowledge him whether they believed in life or not
seems like a distraction because you were making really good sense in your position was the only point that verse has context
each verse is explained by the context of what’s being said we are t meant to pluck out a single verse and try to interpret it independently was the point look where that verse is going what Jesus is talking about
Do you remenber when he entered Jerusalem ?
“And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.”
Matthew 21:9 KJV
some accepted him that phrase is from prophecy it’s a recognition of the messiah the promised king of Israel
“took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
John 12:13 KJV
at the end of the world every human soul will acknolwedge him he was explaining that Jerusalem wouldn’t see him again until he returned everyone will see and acknolwedge him it’s not just going to be the people living on earth but all the dead are going to be raised when he returns
Do you at all see what I’m saying ? Jesus saying this
“Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
Matthew 23:31-39 KJV
make sense ? If they rejected tbier promised king it left then desolate he was the promise of thier covenant . When Jesus returns
“Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
John 5:28-29 KJV
he didn’t have to return at any particular time for them to see and acknowledge him is my point th owe same who rejected him then can be raised up in ten thousand years and see him again because of the resurrection part they could sleep for ages and still see him at the same time everyone else does that verse is part of what he’s saying it doesn’t have or need an independent explaination is all I’m saying
If the dead are raised up when he returns that verse has absolutely no impact on the timing of anything because even though they died it’s not finished yet they’ll see him as everyone will but not until this happens
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV
Those who were dead before and those still alive that day will all see him all of creation Will and they also will acknowledge him
“in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,
and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.”
1 Corinthians 15:52
everyone is going to see him when he returns those long dead and those left alive even those who pierced him will be raised up and see him
“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”
Revelation 1:7 KJV
There are two testaments brother the second begins with israel and spreads to the whole world the messiah was to come twice once at the end of each testament. There are two layers that need fulfillment Christ came and fulfilled the Old Testament promise of him but there’s another promise th at he will come back and raise the dead and judge the earth some to everlasting life others to everlasting contempt and destruction
everyone will see Jesus again and everyone will acknolwedge his name
“for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”
Romans 14:10-12 KJV
everyone’s going to see Jesus again and it will be at a time they are all forced to acknowledge him whether they believed in life or not
seems like a distraction because you were making really good sense in your position was the only point that verse has context