The covenant of the sword

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douggg

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yes you need to watch it several times 😊
Not going to happen. It is a video by a theologian's wanderings through the bible. It accentuates negatives and is depressing to listen to. I don't recommend watching it.
 
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Not going to happen. It is a video by a theologian's wanderings through the bible. It accentuates negatives and is depressing to listen to. I don't recommend watching it.
you see your soul is now dividing your brother 😊
 

douggg

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Jesus said his sword will penetrate the soul and will even divide his own household.

Which proves there is no rapture and proves the prophecy of Isaiah, which says Jesus will come back to settle disputes amongst his own house hold to 😊
If the conclusion from the video were that there is no rapture - that would be another reason not to watch it. But the speaker does not mention the rapture, nor what you are creating in your mind - "the covenant of the sword" .
 

douggg

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Rejecting the word of a senior pastor in the blink of an eye is not wise.
It is wise, if he is using the pulpit unwisely to present his theological wanderings in a negative manner. Show some timeline charts by the pastor of end times events leading up to the return of Jesus. What is his beliefs regarding the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9 as still not yet fulfilled ?
 
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It is wise, if he is using the pulpit unwisely to present his theological wanderings in a negative manner. Show some timeline charts by the pastor of end times events leading up to the return of Jesus. What is his beliefs regarding the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9 as still not yet fulfilled ?
he preached the word of God and Isaiah which states all nations will have all disputes settled by Jesus, this equals no rapture

What makes your teachings any less than his.
 
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My soul is at peace with God, my sins forgiven - saved - born again - by the shed blood of Jesus on the cross.
Nope jesus did not come to bring peace but a sword. Even amongst his house hold

His sword even penetrated his own mothers soul
 

douggg

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he preached the word of God and Isaiah which states all nations will have all disputes settled by Jesus, this equals no rapture

What makes your teachings any less than his.
When Jesus returns to this earth, the raptured/resurrected saints in their glorified incorruptible bodies will be returning with Him as the bride of Christ.
 

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Rejecting the word of a senior pastor in the blink of an eye is not wise.
Rejecting the word of someone else’s senior pastor is nothing; who is he to you? Rejecting the word of your own senior pastor is quite appropriate if his word is contrary to Scripture.
 
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When Jesus returns to this earth, the raptured/resurrected saints in their glorified incorruptible bodies will be returning with Him as the bride of Christ.
Prophecy

Isaiah 2:4



4 He will settle disputes among great nations. They will hammer their swords into plows and their spears into pruning knives. Nations will never again go to war, never prepare for battle again.


Luke
Then turning back to Mary, he gently cupped her head with his hands and said tearfully, “And a sword will pierce through your own soul also” (Luke 2:35).16 Dec 2013


Mathew
rFor I have come tto set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 uAnd a person's enemies will be those of his own household.

There is no rapture
 
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Rejecting the word of someone else’s senior pastor is nothing; who is he to you? Rejecting the word of your own senior pastor is quite appropriate if his word is contrary to Scripture.
well your free to disagree,.

I don't see any point in discussions turning into debates about God.

I don't believe in the appraisals meter

I prefer to discuss the word and listen to view points.

As I know Jesus as not made me the judge of you.

And I can not use Jesus to be the judge of you.

So if you have anything to add to discussion other than discussing credibility, that would be good.
 

Nehemiah6

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Hi pillgrims are we in the covenant of the sword ⚔️⚔️😊
There is no such thing. And whatever was said by the seven thunders was not to be revealed (Rev 10:4).

This is similar to the apostle Paul being forbidden to disclose what was said in Heaven (Paradise in Heaven) when he was taken up: How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. (2 Cor 12:4).
 

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Then turning back to Mary, he gently cupped her head with his hands and said tearfully, “And a sword will pierce through your own soul also” (Luke 2:35)
This is NOT found in the Bible. Here is Luke 2:35:(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

So from where did you quote that verse? It sounds like a Gnostic corruption.
 
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This is NOT found in the Bible. Here is Luke 2:35:(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

So from where did you quote that verse? It sounds like a Gnostic corruption.
well so far since I have been on this forum for 1 whole year you have rejected every word of God I have ever discussed, and that Count is probably on the count of 100 now.

So that means your soul has rejected a brother just as Jesus said it would.

So you see the word of God does not lie.

So I don't expect anything else from you other than to reject what you don't care about,

So the scripture says I have come to bring a sword for all.

And even a sword that will pearce his own house hold

And the lord said in Isiah he will watch every nation plunge there swords in to hey. And even the great nations.

Well what sword, do you think he meant there, because we don't have swords in our hands anymore.

But then I bet you will reject this too.


And the lord said blessed will be there name.


But yet your not in that house hold because you dont bless that name. Your sword blesses yourself and rejects the word of God

Well let me guess you've already been raptured in your head.
 

Nehemiah6

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well so far since I have been on this forum for 1 whole year you have rejected every word of God I have ever discussed, and that Count is probably on the count of 100 now.
Since whatever you say has no basis in Scripture -- just your own concoctions -- yes I reject all your nonsense. It is time for you to grow up, and get grounded in the Word of God.
 
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Since whatever you say has no basis in Scripture -- just your own concoctions -- yes I reject all your nonsense. It is time for you to grow up, and get grounded in the Word of God.
yep I don't expect anything else from you.

Othere than your condescending tone of bad tempered rhetoric.

Jesus clearly says a sword will pearce his mother's soul .

Do you understand this.

Do you understand blessed is Mary's name

So now you also you refuse to answer what I have just asked you, with more rejecting, by just attacking my nature, with your insinuation
 
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It is wise, if he is using the pulpit unwisely to present his theological wanderings in a negative manner. Show some timeline charts by the pastor of end times events leading up to the return of Jesus. What is his beliefs regarding the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9 as still not yet fulfilled ?
you don't see the mention of no rapture because you only see the numbers of what you believe are correct.

The bible may be a number game to you, but not to me 😊
 
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There is no such thing. And whatever was said by the seven thunders was not to be revealed (Rev 10:4).

This is similar to the apostle Paul being forbidden to disclose what was said in Heaven (Paradise in Heaven) when he was taken up: How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. (2 Cor 12:4).
Rejecting the word of someone else’s senior pastor is nothing; who is he to you? Rejecting the word of your own senior pastor is quite appropriate if his word is contrary to Scripture.
When Jesus returns to this earth, the raptured/resurrected saints in their glorified incorruptible bodies will be returning with Him as the bride of Christ.
The covenant of the sword

 

douggg

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well so far since I have been on this forum for 1 whole year you have rejected every word of God I have ever discussed, and that Count is probably on the count of 100 now.

So that means your soul has rejected a brother just as Jesus said it would.

So you see the word of God does not lie.

So I don't expect anything else from you other than to reject what you don't care about,

So the scripture says I have come to bring a sword for all.

And even a sword that will pearce his own house hold

And the lord said in Isiah he will watch every nation plunge there swords in to hey. And even the great nations.

Well what sword, do you think he meant there, because we don't have swords in our hands anymore.

But then I bet you will reject this too.


And the lord said blessed will be there name.


But yet your not in that house hold because you dont bless that name. Your sword blesses yourself and rejects the word of God

Well let me guess you've already been raptured in your head.
You did not answer Nehemiah 6's question to you in his post #33.

What bible translation did you get your version of Luke 2:35 from ?

Every bible verse I quote from is the kjv.

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You did not answer Nehemiah 6's question to you in his post #33.

What bible translation did you get your version of Luke 2:35 from ?

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oh I answered him all right

Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
you may now dismiss[d] your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31 which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and the glory of your people Israel.”
33 The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him. 34 Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother: “This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against, 35 so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. And a sword will pierce your own soul too.”