The Israel of God's people

All Israel is not of Israel (Rom 9:6). There is an Israel who is called Jacob (Gen 32:28). So, would it be correct to say that there is the nation of Israel? and there is a Jacob/Israel? and could we say that Jacob/Israel is spiritual Israel?

Did Jacob/Israel turn away from God, and began to worship idols? Did God blind their eyes for their disobedience?

What are your thoughts about the remnant of Jacob/Israel" Does Jacob/Israel, and the remnant of Jacob/Israel. both have the promise of an inheritance of eternal life in heaven?

my exact thoughts brother.

My conclusion: The Christians are the Israel

2 Corinthians 3:13-15~ We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away. But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

Romans 9:6b-8 Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel... It is the children of promise who are regarded as offspring.

2 Chronicles 7:14

What makes someone Israel?

Thanks for your support Magenta. The scriptures really do prove themselves. We need not seek any other source to glean the truth of the doctrine of Jesus.

If you are referencing spiritual Israel, it's not what mankind can do, it's what God has done. (Eph 1:4-5)

You are correct. Not the nation of Israel, but spiritual Israel.

You have brought up scriptures pertaining to spiritual Israel, which I thank you for, but what are your thoughts about the remnant of spiritual Israel?

I guess I should have been more specific.
I was asking about what makes someone a physical Jew.

Anyone who praises our Maker in Spirit and Truth is become a true Jew.

Galatians 3:26-28

1. The names "Jacob" and "Israel" are interchangeable. Jacob-- the son of Isaac, and grandson of Abraham -- was originally named Jacob (Supplanter) but God renamed him "Israel" (a prince with God and men) after Christ wrestled with him.

2. Later Jacob and/or Israel meant the descendants of Jacob -- the twelve tribes of Israel.

3. "All Israel is not Israel" because the majority of Jews rejected Christ, and there was only a small believing "remnant". That will also be true in the future, but "small" here is a relative term.

4. The modern nation of Israel has only a very small number of Sephardic Jews (descended from the 12 tribes). The majority of Israelis are Ashkenazim (European Jews or those from Central Asia (from the Khazars).

5. "Spiritual Israel" is simply believing Jews, but God sees them as the "good olive tree" into which the Gentiles have been "grafted" as branches from "the wild olive tree". This is in fact the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in to Body of Christ). This Paul calls the Church "the Israel of God", and God has a plan and purpose for the Church in eternity.

6. At the same time, God also has a plan for redeemed and restored Israel (the 12 tribes) on earth after the Second Coming of Christ. See Romans 11:25-36 (called "Jacob" in this passage). So the Church does not replace Israel, and Israel on earth has been promised all the land between the Nile and the Euphrates through the Abrahamic Covenant. This will become a reality in the future,

I would say their natural birth.

Many people became "physical" Jews in the Old Testament simply by converting. It is in the Book.

Romans 2:28 - 29
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Going back to the Old Testament, it always has been.

Deuteronomy 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
Deuteronomy 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Not all of the Israel nation have the promise of an eternal inheritance of heaven, part of them do, because God's redeemed children consist of people from every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation, and they will be reigning on earth until Jesus returns, in the air, at his second coming to have his angles to gather them from everywhere on earth and take his kingdom, which is his bride, home to heaven. At that time the earth will burn with fire.

Spiritual Israel (Jacob) turned away from God causing God to blind their eyes, But God left in the midst of them an afflicted and poor people that shall trust in the Lord. The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity, nor speak lies, neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth, for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid (Zeph 3:11-13).





Blinded spiritual Israel, which is known as the lost sheep of the house of Jacob/Israel even though they are blinded, have not lost their promise of eternal heaven, and will have their eyes opened to see the truth before Christ returns by coming unto a knowledge of the truth, due to hearing and believing the teaching of the remnant.

A scripture, I believe, that harmonizes with this is Ezek 10, especially verse 10. The larger, outer wheel being blinded Jacob/Israel, and the smaller, inner wheel being the remnant.

I also believe this harmonizes with the two gates in Matthew 7. the wide gate being blinded Jacob/Israel, and the strait gate being the remnant of Jacob/Israel. Both gates hav the promise of eternal heaven.

Once we enter the promised Land we have crossed Jordan into it, making us all from across the River, Hebrew.
Israel is comprised of all who believe God.
True Jews are all who praise God in spirit and truth, not those who say they are Jews but rater, are a synagogue of Satan.

Learn these differences and you will have peace in you Love of Jesus Yeshua.