Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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HE DIED FOR ALL SIN EXCEPT UNBELIEF

How many times you going to hear us say this, and keep making yourself look foolish by this nonsensical post as if we have never told you before.

Thats why myself and others refuse to talk to you. Because you are not responsive and have no desire to discuss anything

Jesus did not create a non elect. That's a lie, period. God is not a cosmic monster that picks half of His creation to live and the other half to die. You are watching to many Marvel comics. That is not God. You are impugning His character. The Bible says while we were yet sinners, He loved us. You are flat out calling God a liar.

Salvation is for all. the work of the cross can save all yet there are those who will reject the call of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus gave reason why in the Parable of the sower

Actually, it's much easier for me not to have to discuss anything but I feel it my responsibility to correct errors when I find them,
regardless of whether or not people like hearing about them.


Oh wait - so do I misunderstand you, or did you say (above) that unbelief is a sin when before you said that it wasn't? Your statement on its face is unclear. So, which is it? Is not believing in Christ as the Saviour a sin or is it not? Please, just a simple yes or no will do. If you think it a sin, then according to you, Christ has paid for that one too. If you think it not a sin, then how can 1 Co. 15:56 say that sin still remains when (according to you) all sin has been paid in full by Christ. I'll await your reply.

Your post 193:

"Yes,

but he did not die for their unbelieve. so they are condemned because they have not believed. bnot because they have sinned"

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You sound a little confused, sorry to say. = )




What it SOUNDS like you are saying (regarding the content of my post), is that:

--the "HER" He declared to in Gen25:23 was NOT who the text STATES she was (per v.21), but was instead "ABRAHAM'S WIFE, SARAH"?!;

--and that Abraham SOMEHOW had these "TWINS" (via TWO DISTINCT WOMEN, no less[!!]) in a singular "WOMB" (WOWZA!)?! (what a FANTASTIC *IMAGINATION*... derived from somewhere entirely outside of the texts *I* was speaking of--Gen25:23/Rom9!!);

--and that these "TWINS" (in the singular "WOMB", but delivered by two distinct women, according to you), weren't actually named "JACOB" and "ESAU"... but were named some OTHER TWO names INSTEAD?!





Hmm... methinks you've forgotten your OT history lessons; have disregarded whose "WOMB [singular]" it actually was (where these existed "before they were BORN / being not yet born"); what Romans 9 [about the two particular "names" under present discussion] is really pointing back to (historically=Gen25:23, not someone else!); and forgotten how not to conflate entirely distinct texts.


Try again, because your first attempt here is wholly unconvincing! (and really kinda crazy-sounding, you must admit! )

I would worry about correcting my own errors. Before you attempt to correct other people..


I never said it was not a sin. Paul actually calls it willful sin.

John said he who does not believe in condemned

Do you agree with John or not?

or do you want to just play games?

I agree. Did you read my first post in this thread? I merely agreed with the person that Christ DID die for the elect, AND the non-elect. I said:


"Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Jesus died for everyone, however just because Jesus dies for you does not automatically make you saved. We are saved by grace, THROUGH faith, so faith needs to be present.

What Jesus' death did was atone for sins, but just like in the old covenant if one did not humble themselves, the atonement was not applied. "

John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." I don't see anything here about humbling one's self.

To believe correct doctrine is to believe Jesus; to not believe correct doctrine is to not believe Jesus. Most people believe incorrect doctrine to prove to the rest of us they are one of the unelects.

I am electing to stay here.

Amen!
Well you are proving you believe incorrect doctrine.. so what does that say about you?

PS. I do not think anyone has 100% correct doctrine. This does not mean they are not elect.

Judge not lest ye be judged..

Then we elect to keep correcting you in righteousness

"Most people believe incorrect doctrine..." My, my!

My my (again)!

Jesus died for everyone. The Bible makes that perfectly clear! If you disagree... Jesus' sacrifice paid the penalty for everyone's sin. If you disagree, whose sins are excluded?

Do you believe If someone dies while still choosing to not believe (or to deny) correct doctrine of Jesus Christ, this proves they are one of the many unelects? Yes, this does mean they are one of the many unelects.

No, you believe what you consider to be "all correct doctrine from Jesus". Do you consider yourself to be infallible?