Are the 9 Gifts of the Spirit (1 Cor. 12) in operation today and if not Why?

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1Cor. Chapter 12

1."Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant."

"Now concerning spiritual gifts": Paul transitions his letter to address a specific topic – spiritual gifts. This signals the importance of the issue within the Corinthian church.

"Brethren": This expression highlights the communal nature of these gifts and their purpose in building up the body of Christ, rather than individualistic elevation.

"I would not have you ignorant": Here, "ignorant" doesn't imply stupidity but a lack of understanding or awareness of God's intention for spiritual gifts. Paul wants the Corinthians to be well-informed about the subject.

2."Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led."

"Ye know...": Paul starts with an appeal to their common knowledge, reminding them of their pre-Christian past.

"...that ye were Gentiles": The term "Gentile" meant a non-Jewish person. Paul highlights that the readers were not originally part of God's covenant people, Israel.

"...carried away unto these dumb idols": This describes their former pagan state, where they were spiritually led astray and enslaved by false religions and idols.

"dumb idols": Refers to the lifeless and powerless nature of the idols they previously worshipped. These gods could not speak, hear, or act.

"even as ye were led": Emphasizes how they were passively guided by these false beliefs and the spiritual deception they represented.

3."Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."

"Wherefore...": Paul builds on prior discussions, suggesting a logical conclusion about the relationship between the Holy Spirit and true Christian belief.

"...no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed": This highlights two points:

1. Rejection of Jesus: Those who curse Jesus, denying His divinity or His role as Messiah, do NOT do so under the influence of God's Spirit.
2. The Holy Spirit's Witness: The Holy Spirit testifies to the truth about Jesus, so those truly guided by the Spirit cannot deny Him
"...and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost":

This reinforces the core belief of Christianity:

1. Declaration of Lordship: Affirming Jesus as Lord (supreme authority) is a fundamental declaration of Christian faith.
2. Necessity of the Spirit: This proclamation isn't merely intellectual; it requires the inward work of the Holy Spirit for true and genuine conviction.

4."Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit."

"Now there are diversities of gifts...": Paul acknowledges that Christians receive various spiritual gifts. These gifts could entail miraculous abilities (healing, prophecy) or practical service-oriented capacities (leadership, helps).

"...but the same Spirit": This emphasizes the common source of ALL spiritual gifts: the Holy Spirit. It's not based on merit, but God's sovereign distribution.

This statement accomplishes several things:

Unity in Diversity: Acknowledges unique gifts while highlighting the single unifying source – the Holy Spirit. This promotes unity in the body of Christ despite differences.

God's Sovereignty: Reminds the Corinthians that these gifts aren't earned; they're given by God through His Spirit. This counters potential pride or misuse.

Emphasis on Purpose: Gifts aren't for individualistic display but are to be used for the common good of the church, building it up and serving others.

5."And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord."

"And there are differences of administrations...": "Administrations" likely refers to various ways believers serve and carry out responsibilities within the church.

Similar to the word "ministries," it implies different roles and functions.

Examples might include leadership, teaching, hospitality, practical care, or evangelism.

"...but the same Lord": Reminds readers that despite different service roles, all believers ultimately serve the same Lord Jesus Christ.
This emphasizes the supreme authority of Christ over the church.
Purpose:

This verse emphasizes several things:

Diverse Service, One Goal: Just as there are diverse spiritual gifts, there are diverse ways to serve. This encourages a recognition and appreciation of various contributions.

Unity of Purpose: Despite different roles, all true Christian service aims to honor and glorify Jesus Christ.

Preventing Divisions: Acknowledges potential for pride or divisions based on functions. It reminds the Corinthians of their common allegiance to Christ.

6."And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all."

"And there are diversities of operations..." "Operations" refers to the effects or results produced by spiritual gifts.

This highlights different ways the Holy Spirit's power manifests through believers.

"...but it is the same God which worketh all in all." Emphasizes God as the ultimate source and power behind all genuine spiritual work.

Acknowledges the diversity of outcomes but points to the single divine source of genuine spiritual activity.

God's Active Presence: It emphasizes God's continued work within the church. He's not passive; He empowers believers to carry out His purposes.

Combating Misuses: Acknowledges different visible outcomes while reminding believers that these aren't for personal glory, as God is the true agent behind them.

7."But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal."

"But the manifestation of the Spirit...": "Manifestation" refers to the visible or evident expression of the Holy Spirit's presence and power through an individual.

It encompasses how spiritual gifts operate to reveal God's work.

"...is given to every man...": Clarifies that ALL believers receive some spiritual ability. No one is spiritually destitute.

Emphasizes God's generosity and the opportunity for everyone to participate in God's work.

"...to profit withal": Stresses the purpose of these gifts – not for individualistic benefit but for the common good of the Church.

"Profit" here means "benefit" or "advantage."

Building Up the Church: Spiritual gifts are primarily for building up the body of Christ and facilitating its spiritual growth, not enriching individuals.

Combating Misuses: This could counter Corinthian tendencies to boast over showy gifts or those wrongly viewed as more important.

Encouraging Participation: Reminds everyone that no matter their gifts, they are equipped to contribute to the greater good of the church.

8."For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;"

"For to one is given by the Spirit": Emphasizes that the source of all spiritual gifts is the Holy Spirit, not the individual.

"the word of wisdom": Not worldly wisdom, but a supernatural ability bestowed by the Spirit to understand and apply spiritual truth to complex situations.
Likely involves discernment, the ability to make sound judgments based on godly principles.

"to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit": Refers to Spirit-given knowledge of facts, historical events, or spiritual truths that cannot be known through natural means.

Might involve a revelatory understanding of Scripture or specific insights into a situation.

Variety: Paul starts listing a variety of spiritual gifts, highlighting the diversity of ways God empowers believers.

Key Points:

Not Exhaustive List: Paul's list here isn't meant to be a complete inventory of all spiritual gifts.

Gifts & Knowledge: Some gifts provide specific knowledge, others enable wise application of that knowledge.

Unity of Source: Despite the difference in gifts, they all come from the same source - the Holy Spirit.
Purpose:

Paul wants the Corinthians to:

1.Recognize that there are different gifts within the church, none being superior to another.
2.Understand that these gifts are not based on personal merit but are given by the Spirit.
3.See how different gifts function together for the building up of the church.

9."To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;"

The phrase "to another faith by the same Spirit" suggests that the Holy Spirit grants a special gift of faith to certain individuals. This is not the general faith required for salvation, which all Christians are expected to have, but rather a specific, extraordinary gift of faith. This kind of faith can empower a believer to trust God in extremely difficult circumstances, to believe for miracles, or to have a strong, unwavering confidence in God's promises beyond the ordinary level of faith.

The following phrase, "to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit," indicates that the Holy Spirit also distributes gifts of healing to certain individuals. These gifts enable them to pray for the sick in such a way that the sick are healed, serving as a sign of God's power and mercy. It's important to note that this gift, like all spiritual gifts, is not for the self-aggrandizement of the individual but for the common good of the church and as a witness to the world.

Paul's point in mentioning these gifts, along with others in the surrounding verses, is to illustrate the variety of ways the Holy Spirit works in the body of Christ. Despite the diversity of gifts, they are all sourced in the same Spirit, serving the purpose of building up the church and glorifying God.

10."To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:"
 
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The working of miracles: This gift refers to the ability to perform acts that are beyond natural human capability, demonstrating God's power. Examples in the Bible include healing the sick, raising the dead, or controlling natural elements.

Prophecy: This gift involves receiving and communicating messages from God that can edify, exhort, and comfort the church. It may include foretelling future events or speaking truths that reveal the will and purposes of God.

Discerning of spirits: This is the ability to distinguish between spirits to identify whether they are from God, from an evil source, or of human origin. This gift is crucial for protecting the church from false teachings or demonic influences.

Divers kinds of tongues: This refers to the supernatural ability to speak in languages the speaker has not learned, enabling them to communicate God's message to people of different linguistic backgrounds or to speak in a heavenly language during prayer.

The interpretation of tongues: This gift complements the gift of speaking in tongues by enabling a person to interpret what is spoken in an unknown language, making the message understandable to those who do not speak that language.

Paul's discussion of these gifts serves to highlight that while believers may have different gifts, all are given by the same Spirit for the common good. Each gift is important and serves a unique purpose in the church's life and mission.

11."But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will."

1 Corinthians 12:11, emphasizes that it is the same Spirit—the Holy Spirit—who is responsible for all these different gifts. Moreover, it underscores the sovereignty of the Holy Spirit in distributing these gifts to believers "severally as he will." This means that the Holy Spirit gives each believer different spiritual gifts according to His own will, not based on human desire, merit, or effort.

The verse is highlighting the unity and diversity within the body of Christ. While believers may have different gifts, these differences are meant to complement each other and contribute to the common good of the church. Each gift is given by the same Spirit for a purpose, and no gift is more important than another. It's an encouragement for Christians to value and use their unique gifts in service to the community and to glorify God.
 

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Are the 9 Gifts of the Spirit (1 Cor. 12) in operation today and if not Why?
Biblically, yes. Actually? Very little.
There is NOTHING openly declared in the Bible saying otherwise.
If Jesus is always the same, & the Father declares in the OT He doesn't change, what about the Holy Spirit?
The ONLY time Jesus couldn't perform many miracles was because of the people's unbelief. That alone should speak volumes to the modern church.
 
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Are the 9 Gifts of the Spirit (1 Cor. 12) in operation today and if not Why?
Biblically, yes. Actually? Very little.
There is NOTHING openly declared in the Bible saying otherwise.
If Jesus is always the same, & the Father declares in the OT He doesn't change, what about the Holy Spirit?
The ONLY time Jesus couldn't perform many miracles was because of the people's unbelief. That alone should speak volumes to the modern church.
Yes very good. Plus:

John14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Verily, Verily:
This double emphasis from Jesus highlights the importance and truth of what He is about to say.
Believeth on me: This emphasizes not just intellectual belief, but a deep trust and reliance on Jesus Christ.
The works that I do: Refers to Jesus' miraculous acts – healings, signs, and wonders – that were demonstrations of His power and connection to God.
Greater works: This surprising statement doesn't refer to more powerful miracles, but a greater reach in impact.
Because I go unto my father: Jesus' ascension to Heaven enables Him to send the Holy Spirit and empower believers far beyond His physical limitations.

We weak minded, faithless, and confused christians need to WAKE UP if we think for one moment the Power to do all the miracles that Christ did doesn't reside within those who have COMPLETE trust in Christ.
 

Artios1

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Yes...
Only they are not gifts. They are a manifestation (evidence) of the gift that we received at the new birth.
The are necessary... and available today to tap into at the believers determination (will)
 

jamessb

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Yes...
Only they are not gifts. They are a manifestation (evidence) of the gift that we received at the new birth.
The are necessary... and available today to tap into at the believers determination (will)
1 Corinthians 12 begins like this: Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed".
 

Nehemiah6

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Are there only nine spiritual gifts? There are at least thirteen, and more like eighteen.
  1. Word of wisdom
  2. Word of knowledge
  3. Faith
  4. Healing
  5. Working of miracles
  6. Prophecy (Prophets)
  7. Discerning of spirits
  8. Tongues
  9. Interpretation of tongues
  10. Apostles
  11. Pastors
  12. Teachers
  13. Evangelists
  14. Ministry
  15. Exhortation
  16. Ruling
  17. Mercy
  18. Agape love
 

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Are there only nine spiritual gifts? There are at least thirteen, and more like eighteen.
  1. Word of wisdom
  2. Word of knowledge
  3. Faith
  4. Healing
  5. Working of miracles
  6. Prophecy (Prophets)
  7. Discerning of spirits
  8. Tongues
  9. Interpretation of tongues
  10. Apostles
  11. Pastors
  12. Teachers
  13. Evangelists
  14. Ministry
  15. Exhortation
  16. Ruling
  17. Mercy
  18. Agape love
Saved me making a comment on that one, well done.
 
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I am aware of the David Duplesis teaching that the translators incorrectly translated the word 'gifts' and that manifestations is more correct. Please check a greek dictionary for the interpretation of that word and make your own assessment.

Also, the OP asked if gifts/manifestations are still in operation today. Let us not derail this thread with a potentially contentious comments.
 

Artios1

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1 Corinthians 12 begins like this: Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed".

I know it does …it’s very deceptive. I haven’t checked other versions …but I know KJV has added the word gifts in…12:1, as well as 13:2, 14:1 & 14:12. They should be deleted as they are not in the originals …and it’s misleading.


The word “spiritual” in 12:1 (and 14:1… is the Greek word (pneumatikos) meaning “that which belongs to, is determined by, influenced by, or proceeds from the spirit” (i.e. spiritual matters).

Spiritual matters does include gifts… as 12:4 &5 speak of ….but (pneumatikos) also refers to a variety of spiritual matters in its 26 usages….including that of manifestation.



In verse 7 of 1 Corinthians 12 it changes from gifts… to manifestation.

1Co 12:7But the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withal


The word “but” is a contrasting conjunction that sets in contrast that which precedes it … verses 4-6 was dealing with gifts, but now it’s changed from gifts to manifestation.


What’s the difference between gift and manifestation. A gift is individually given, and you do not have it unless someone gives it to you.

A manifestation is an evidence…. a showing forth of something you already have.
 

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I know it does …it’s very deceptive. I haven’t checked other versions …but I know KJV has added the word gifts in…12:1, as well as 13:2, 14:1 & 14:12. They should be deleted as they are not in the originals …and it’s misleading.


The word “spiritual” in 12:1 (and 14:1… is the Greek word (pneumatikos) meaning “that which belongs to, is determined by, influenced by, or proceeds from the spirit” (i.e. spiritual matters).

Spiritual matters does include gifts… as 12:4 &5 speak of ….but (pneumatikos) also refers to a variety of spiritual matters in its 26 usages….including that of manifestation.



In verse 7 of 1 Corinthians 12 it changes from gifts… to manifestation.

1Co 12:7But the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withal


The word “but” is a contrasting conjunction that sets in contrast that which precedes it … verses 4-6 was dealing with gifts, but now it’s changed from gifts to manifestation.


What’s the difference between gift and manifestation. A gift is individually given, and you do not have it unless someone gives it to you.

A manifestation is an evidence…. a showing forth of something you already have.
Do you understand "sophistry"?
 
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Are there only nine spiritual gifts? There are at least thirteen, and more like eighteen.
  1. Word of wisdom
  2. Word of knowledge
  3. Faith
  4. Healing
  5. Working of miracles
  6. Prophecy (Prophets)
  7. Discerning of spirits
  8. Tongues
  9. Interpretation of tongues
  10. Apostles
  11. Pastors
  12. Teachers
  13. Evangelists
  14. Ministry
  15. Exhortation
  16. Ruling
  17. Mercy
  18. Agape love
Those I highlighted in bold above are the 5 fold ministry of the Church.

Context of Ephesians 4:
Many scholars argue that these roles are not referred to as "gifts" in the original Greek text and are instead described as "equipping gifts" to build up the church. They see these roles as functions or assignments within the church, not supernatural gifts bestowed by the Holy Spirit.

Distinction from 1 Corinthians 12: This chapter lists the different "gifts of the Spirit," such as prophecy, healing, and speaking in tongues. These are temporary and individual gifts, while the five-fold ministry roles are seen as long-term and focused on leadership and teaching within the church.

In 1 Cor. Chapter 12 it only lists 9
 

Dino246

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To the thread title: yes, they are. All nine.

Now watch for the cessationists to challenge my assertion.
 

p_rehbein

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All of the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still imparted by Him today, and will be until the return of the Lion of Judah.... BTW, there are more than 9 gifts.......just saying
 
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I am only talking about the 9 gifts listed is 1 Cor. 12. I hope no one ever thought that I meant this to be an exhaustive list. There are more and we can never put a limit on the distribution of these gift by the Spirit. (See More Later)
 

Nehemiah6

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Those I highlighted in bold above are the 5 fold ministry of the Church.
There were (and are) only twelve apostles of the Lamb. Evangelists, pastors, and teachers are still here. Barnabas and James were called "apostles" in a broader sense, but were not strictly apostles. So there are NO genuine apostles in Christendom today, just false apostles. Also, ruling, ministry, exhortation would be "ministry" gifts according to Paul (Rom 12).
 

studentoftheword

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I am only talking about the 9 gifts listed is 1 Cor. 12
4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.

8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom,

to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit,

9 to another faith by the same Spirit,

to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit,

10 to another miraculous powers,

to another prophecy,

to another distinguishing between spirits,

to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a]

and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b]

11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines

I say --------Ask yourself is the Holy Spirit alive --active and well today indwelling in believers ------

If so then these gifts have to be relevant today as they are given by the Holy Spirit ------I know for a FACT the Speaking in Tongues is alive and active today as I have that Gift as I have stated before -------

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FollowerofShiloh

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Let's say God did factually cause all of the Gifts to happen and you saw them happen.
Would you believe it was from God or think some were not?