Did GOD give any Laws to people before Moses?

God’s law seems to predates Adam & Eve, it would have been necessary to define iniquity (I.e transgression of the law) before Satan tempted them:

[Gen 3:1-5 KJV] 1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

[Eze 28:11-19 KJV] 11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never [shalt] thou [be] any more.

[Eze 28:11-19 KJV] 11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never [shalt] thou [be] any more.

So, there's many things we can do on the Sabbath besides rest. We can shop for food or go out to eat, or do the work of God, or feed my cattle, horses, dogs, have a picnic. Even though there's work involved, it can be done in order to eat or Do God's Work?

The Sabbath is more than about rest, we are to rest from our works, to keep the Sabbath holy Exo 20:8 and the Bible is filled with ways to do that. The Sabbath really is about honoring God Isa 58:13 and spending quality time with God as like the examples of Jesus and the apostles going to church, reading His Word, sharing His Word, prayer and fellowship and the Sabbath is meant to bless and sanctify us Isa 56:1-6 Eze 20:12. If we are hungry and want to pick a piece of fruit out of the garden, not a sin, nor is helping someone in need like the sick. The Sabbath is really about a memorial to God’s Creation to appreciate everything God has done for us. The Pharisees made the Sabbath all about rules and add many of their rules to the Sabbath which is why they persecuted Jesus without cause because Jesus kept the Sabbath of the Ten Commandments, not the sabbath of the Pharisees which was the farthest about honoring God. .

The Sabbath is more than about rest, we are to rest from our works, to keep the Sabbath holy Exo 20:8 and the Bible is filled with ways to do that. The Sabbath really is about honoring God Isa 58:13 and spending quality time with God as like the examples of Jesus and the apostles going to church, reading His Word, sharing His Word, prayer and fellowship and the Sabbath is meant to bless and sanctify us Isa 56:1-6 Eze 20:12. If we are hungry and want to pick a piece of fruit out of the garden, not a sin, nor is helping someone in need like the sick. The Sabbath is really about a memorial to God’s Creation to appreciate everything God has done for us. The Pharisees made the Sabbath all about rules and add many of their rules to the Sabbath which is why they persecuted Jesus without cause because Jesus kept the Sabbath of the Ten Commandments, not the sabbath of the Pharisees which was the farthest about honoring God. .

Exactly, it's not as strict as people should be making it out to be.

It’s good that you don’t use electricity or water on the Sabbath. Wouldn’t want to rely on people working so that your conscience is clear. You probably collect enough water in pots on Friday for use the next day. Maybe tubs are filled for toilet flushes since the pumps use electricity. Oh, internet, phones, and screens, too. Those require people working 24/7. I’m sure police are not called upon either. Or the use of roads since they are patrolled all days. I mean let the heathens use the roads, am I right?!

God’s law seems to predates Adam & Eve,

In scripture we find different verses that seem to indicate that there were known Laws given by GOD?;

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Gen 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
Gen 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Gen 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
Gen 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

What can deduce from this? I am not certain and would like your opinions,

Peace.

The Knowledge of good and evil

“See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:15‬ ‭

“I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The tree of life the gospel of our lord Jesus Christ

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭


Remember Adam had access to the tree of life in Eden “ you are free to eat of any tree in the garden but he was warned against eating of the one tree of good and evil

We are like Adam and Eve , the garden is like the world , the gospel is like the tree of life and the law is like the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and everyone under it died but the gospel promises life

The rich man wasn't keeping God's law, he broke the very first commandment by placing his great riches over Jesus.

There is no scripture that says the Ten Commandments is a shadow, because its what we all will be judged by. James 2:10-12, Ecc 12:13-14, Mat 5:19-30, Rev 22:14-15 - How one comes up that we can worship other gods, vain His holy name, steal, covet or break the least of these as a shadow, despite Jesus telling us not to do that Mat 5:19-30 is always surprising, even if its a popular doctrine. God instead of deleting His law, wrote it in our hearts and minds in the New Covenant Heb 8:10 Jer 31:33 and Jesus taught when we keep our rules over obeying the commandments of God- quoting from the Ten our hearts are far from Him Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13- the opposite of the New Covenant- God law written in our hearts, keeping Him close.

If you consider being obedient to God is a legalist I guess Jesus is one too as He faithfully kept all of the commandments John 15:10 as it our example to follow. 1 John 2:6

Guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Since the entire universe was created in those six days of creation, how could anything predate that? Now if you are talking about God's natural laws, they originated before Adam and Eve, between the 1st and the 6th day. And if you are talking about what was in God's mind prior to creation, well everything was in His mind.

Jesus also came as a Jew, the lineage of Judah to fulfill the prophecy of David's Throne/Kingdom.
And He also """WORKED""" on the Sabbath. In John chapter 5 Jesus said on the SABBATH that His Father is working this very day so He (Jesus) is also working.

So if we are working for God we can work on the Sabbath.

That's taking it a bit too far. I think it's a personal decision and a "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" sort of deal. .

It’s good that you don’t use electricity or water on the Sabbath. Wouldn’t want to rely on people working so that your conscience is clear. You probably collect enough water in pots on Friday for use the next day. Maybe tubs are filled for toilet flushes since the pumps use electricity. Oh, internet, phones, and screens, too. Those require people working 24/7. I’m sure police are not called upon either. Or the use of roads since they are patrolled all days. I mean let the heathens use the roads, am I right?!

The pharisees were thinking this way, why do you mock which you do not understand instead of trying for a change.

In scripture we find different verses that seem to indicate that there were known Laws given by GOD?;

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Gen 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
Gen 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Gen 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
Gen 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

What can deduce from this? I am not certain and would like your opinions,

Peace.

So then you agree with the pharisees condemning Jesus for breaking the law which is a sin? did you not know that was Jesus was doing is GOOD WORKS quite different from regular work that men normally do? did you not know that Jesus is one with GOD, he made all things and IS the Lord of the Sabbath?

Jesus Is Lord of the Sabbath
Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.

Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day. ( here is an example of the twisted mind of the pharisees whoch jesus hated, they were accusing men followers of Jesus who were hungry to EAT and sustain their health and strength, which is not a sin or even a work but a necessity of LIfe itself)

Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;

Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is onegreater than the temple.

Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

You should not take that post as you did. If you read the back"n"forth you would understand I was fishing to learn his point of view. And in the end you can clearly see we believed the same. And never would I ever side with some religious type over Jesus. Had you paid attention you would have saved the effort and your own time with this un-needed post of yours plus my time having to explain it for you.