Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

You No Label Christians remind me of a spaghetti western titled "NO NAME".

Did I get that right?

My answer to this question would be NO, you did not get it right!

• There are in fact two classes of people, Elect and non-Elect.
• The Elect are those who God Himself has chosen to be His.
• They both are born into this world as sinners.
• God will at some time provide the Elect with a new heart and they will become believers, having faith in their Savior.
• He will not change the non-Elect in any way. Therefore, they will never believe nor can they.

I realize that this is where many say “No, that is not fair! God would not do that!”. To this, God's reply is:
Rom 9:21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? (ESV)

Try to remember back to the time that you became a believer and ask yourself - “Is this because of something that I did, or is it because of something God did?

please don't assume you can answer for me should you ever come across a post wherein someone asked me a question and I had not yet answered it. I disagree with this kind of nouveau take on the word 'elect' but believe as you will

Calvinist much?

My answer to this question would be NO, you did not get it right!

• There are in fact two classes of people, Elect and non-Elect.
• The Elect are those who God Himself has chosen to be His.
• They both are born into this world as sinners.
• God will at some time provide the Elect with a new heart and they will become believers, having faith in their Savior.
• He will not change the non-Elect in any way. Therefore, they will never believe nor can they.

I realize that this is where many say “No, that is not fair! God would not do that!”. To this, God's reply is:
Rom 9:21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? (ESV)

Try to remember back to the time that you became a believer and ask yourself - “Is this because of something that I did, or is it because of something God did?

Sorry if I offended you in any way!

The same lump is exampled in Jacob and Esau, who were conceived by one man, Isaac. And "So then...," that, "....it does not depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy." does not exclude, from anyone, the ability to ask, seek, and find it.

My answer to this question would be NO, you did not get it right!

• There are in fact two classes of people, Elect and non-Elect.
• The Elect are those who God Himself has chosen to be His.
• They both are born into this world as sinners.
• God will at some time provide the Elect with a new heart and they will become believers, having faith in their Savior.
• He will not change the non-Elect in any way. Therefore, they will never believe nor can they.

I realize that this is where many say “No, that is not fair! God would not do that!”. To this, God's reply is:
Rom 9:21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? (ESV)

Try to remember back to the time that you became a believer and ask yourself - “Is this because of something that I did, or is it because of something God did?

I think the line between either or as Calvinists seem to want to push a decision for, is assumed in a way not intended or found in scripture.

Yes, it seems to be a sort of pseudo-trust, to me. Kind of like, "I'll only trust you if you make me do it."

And again you've been corrected by those who know better than you do:

Since you are quoting the Reformed Principles verbatim, I made a decision to start quoting Scholars and Theologians who know and which you are not of their educational level.

Here, just so you know what the scholars say about "Might Be Saved"

used to express the possibility that something will happen although not very likely:

That is what you keep doing by placing this to the Elect, they might be saved although not likely.

You are saying the Elect are not saved!

Your biggest failure is to understand the prepositions of the koine Greek, which you are using the KJV and far from that form of Greek.

You are attempting to define word for word but that is not how JOHN wrote it. Whenever one uses the koine Greek, they will use a multitude of prepositions. And since you choose to lack the understanding concerning this, you will always be INCORRECT.

If I am not mistaken, do not some Calvinists also say we cannot be sure of salvation in this life?

Is this the quote of mine you're referencing:

Why can't any professing believer in this life know if they're saved or not?

They'd have to argue with the Holy Spirit in my case because He told me that I am a daughter of God. He is our Yes and Amen, and I can hear his voice echoing with a sister or brother whenever they say, "Amen."

Again you been told, you are without excuse. The world in Jn 3 16-17 is the elect, and they are saved by Christ

Coming Messiah and believing who Jesus is are 2 different concepts. Like I said, you don't understand. Just look at the questions you present. Common sense could answer them but it's taking a second party to explain it for you.

Well that is not at all true but I would not expect you to say otherwise. I have yet to exchange posts with any Calvinist that does not sooner or later declare what you do above. You just did it sooner

Yes....look at the questions I present and which you cannot answer. It's no wonder at all that you need to lean on the crutches of your "educated scholars". You obviously sense that you're a sad, pathetic apologist for your NR theology.

But while on the topic of my great, piercing questions, here's another one you likely won't answer:

Since you claim that Jn 3:16 teaches that God so dearly loves each and every person in the world, then this must mean that he is also the heavenly Father of each and every person, yes? For could God possibly love anyone with less than a familial love, especially since we're all His offspring (Act 17:29), and he would never discriminate with that love, would he (Act 10:343)?

P.S. This question is open to one and all: To No Labels and Labels and Undecided alike.

This verse has NOTHING to do about my salvation so you warning me shows just how little you understand.
And knowing you know little, this is for you:

And again you've been corrected by those who know better than you do:

Since you are quoting the Reformed Principles verbatim, I made a decision to start quoting Scholars and Theologians who know and which you are not of their educational level.

Here, just so you know what the scholars say about "Might Be Saved"

used to express the possibility that something will happen although not very likely:

That is what you keep doing by placing this to the Elect, they might be saved although not likely.

You are saying the Elect are not saved!

Your biggest failure is to understand the prepositions of the koine Greek, which you are using the KJV and far from that form of Greek.

You are attempting to define word for word but that is not how JOHN wrote it. Whenever one uses the koine Greek, they will use a multitude of prepositions. And since you choose to lack the understanding concerning this, you will always be INCORRECT.

In other words, we're supposed to believe that John contradicted himself and other inspired of scriptures?