Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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Cameron143

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FollowerofShiloh said:
I would believe this myself. But not every human is equal in terms of what our limits are. I might be able to experience the loss of everything where another could not. I might look at it like Job did where another might curse God and reject Him. It's a dangerous thing to judge someone else by how you can handle things.
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Who said I judged anyone against another. My contention is based on the promise of God, and not dependent on any individual.
 
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Cameron143 said:
He didn't kill him because it would have been sinful. Anointed doesn't mean saved no matter how many ways you try.
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Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on his head: This was a literal anointing of Saul. The word “anoint” means to rub or sprinkle on; apply an ointment or oily liquid to. When Samuel poured it on his head, Saul was anointed with oil.

What happened to Saul’s head and body was a picture of what God did in him spiritually. The Holy Spirit was poured out on him, equipping him for the job of ruling as king over Israel.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Who said I judged anyone against another. My contention is based on the promise of God, and not dependent on any individual.
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Where does it say anywhere God goes against your true desires?
I read where God uses it to make sure you're stuck forever.
Look at Pharaoh. God present him, through Moses, and he starts hardening his heart. God ultimately seals that hardening.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Where does it say anywhere God goes against your true desires?
I read where God uses it to make sure you're stuck forever.
Look at Pharaoh. God present him, through Moses, and he starts hardening his heart. God ultimately seals that hardening.
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Who said anything about going against your desires? Once God saves a person, He gives them the desires of their heart. God literally replaces our once sinful and selfish desires with those that are holy and God-centered...Psalm 37:4.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on his head: This was a literal anointing of Saul. The word “anoint” means to rub or sprinkle on; apply an ointment or oily liquid to. When Samuel poured it on his head, Saul was anointed with oil.

What happened to Saul’s head and body was a picture of what God did in him spiritually. The Holy Spirit was poured out on him, equipping him for the job of ruling as king over Israel.
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Right. He was equipped for a task. He was set apart for service. He was even attended by and experienced spiritual reality to authenticate that this was so.
Not one mention of salvation.
 
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MerSee said:
They want to be their own God. Their idol is Aleister Crowley. Aleister Crowley said, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."
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One of the most absurd statements to be found in this forum

I do know who Crowley was and I am wondering why you insert that individual into this forum?

This man was an occultist and in what world do you think that statement is appropriate?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Right. He was equipped for a task. He was set apart for service. He was even attended by and experienced spiritual reality to authenticate that this was so.
Not one mention of salvation.
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evidently this is also depraving the depraved
 
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Anoint – ceremonial confer divine or holy office upon (a priest or monarch) by smearing or rubbing with oil.

No wonder David would not harm a hair on Saul's head. He was anointed by God! Don't see that this has anything to do with salvation.
God placed Saul into the office of king over his people, and David knew that God would remove him in His own time.
 
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BillyBob said:
Anoint – ceremonial confer divine or holy office upon (a priest or monarch) by smearing or rubbing with oil.

No wonder David would not harm a hair on Saul's head. He was anointed by God! Don't see that this has anything to do with salvation.
God placed Saul into the office of king over his people, and David knew that God would remove him in His own time.
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I anointed my bagel this morning with a smear of cream cheese for the divine purpose of deliciously alleviating myself of hunger.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on his head: This was a literal anointing of Saul. The word “anoint” means to rub or sprinkle on; apply an ointment or oily liquid to. When Samuel poured it on his head, Saul was anointed with oil.

What happened to Saul’s head and body was a picture of what God did in him spiritually. The Holy Spirit was poured out on him, equipping him for the job of ruling as king over Israel.
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God simply appointed Saul as King over his people. And why did he do this? Because the people looked upon the gentile nations who had a king and complained because the thought they needed one as well. This anointing had nothing to do with salvation!
Saul was never referred to as "The man after God's own heart"!
 
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Cameron143 said:
You misunderstood his position. He wasn't saying he didn't need to confess, but that because he had already repented...turned from his sin and agreed with God that it was sin...that confession was sufficient, and didn't need to continually repent.
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To whose position are you referring?
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Some claim the 5 doctrines of Grace = Jesus died for future sins so it's possible to sin and sin and sin without ever asking forgiveness.
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I know of no Reformed author that believes such a thing. Do you? If so, who? And can you quote him?
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Romans 8 says "nothing" about continuing to sin and sin and sin
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But 1Jn 3:7-10 does.

P.S. I'm still waiting for an answer to my question in 4660 pertaining to your claim that God is a murderer if he predestines non-elect sinners to hell. This is my 3rd time following up with you.
 
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