Gods life

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#43
the scripture commands us to examine what is preached, to test whether it is true, and to actively rebuke and reject what is wrong.
((z.b. 1 John 4:1, Titus 3:10-12))
Correct, and also, after "planting a seed, and then watering it [ once, or twice maybe? ]," obeying God's Other command in Romans 16:17 AV,
would save alot of time, and prevent these threads from becoming
"vile communications, puffiness, strife and vainglory," Correct?

Amen.
 

Thunderrr-mental

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#44
Correct, and also, after "planting a seed, and then watering it [ once, or twice maybe? ]," obeying God's Other command in Romans 16:17 AV,
would save alot of time, and prevent these threads from becoming
"vile communications, puffiness, strife and vainglory," Correct?

Amen.
well I have to say your grace has really shone through hear thanks for your comment
 

Thunderrr-mental

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What I have found in church i attend.

People lose confidence when they can't sing in higher pitch

So we choose lower tempo

The results.are amazing

This one I chose last week 🙂

 

Cameron143

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#47
coffee yes,
the donuts are just glazed, but fresh
I can take a pushy Pastor so long as there are sprinkles on the donuts. Short of that I'm probably gone.
 

Thunderrr-mental

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Hmmm....could be a valid question.
I tell you what the game is what is being played, is they wait for you to show understanding then dismiss it.

Depraving this is.

So I ask them to say the understanding that is clearly there like 100 hundred times that people can clearly see by asking them what understandings is in this scripture. Is there just one




And they won't even acknowledge the understanding is there.

So I drop hints point them to the verse and they still won't even acknowledge

So then back and forth after merry go round you say the understanding and then you get told your a heretic.

Oh and just so you know there is many doctrines depraving the depraved here.

So this is not something I like.

So other game is to deprave you to start confrontation


Because i tell you this, that this doctrine of total depravity has depraved them not me

The other game is cause argument and have you seen as pushy or bad man when you respond back to them
 

posthuman

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seems you would like it to be
of course not.

because as i said earlier, that would be a clear contradiction of scripture: death did not enter the world until sin.

therefore, Adam when created had in him no death - his natural body, of dust, was uncorrupt. he did not decay, because decay is cell death.
but when he sinned, then death entered in, and 'dying, he died'

therefore his natural body changed, so it is not correct to say the natural body does not change.

Paul also taught us, we shall be changed ((1Cor 15:51)) and that the natural body is sown in corruption and raised in incorruption ((1 Cor 15:42)) - physical Resurrection, after the pattern of Christ, Who physically rose from the dead and physically ascended.

Paul also taught us, speaking by the Spirit of God, that this is the very hope of the gospel, "the redemption of our bodies" ((Romans 8:23)) - note that it is redemption, not destruction of our flesh we look forward to.

the dust, from which we are created in our natural form, was cursed, but Adam was not. and Christ, having made Himself for our sake a curse in order to redeem us, has taken away the curse.

the natural body very much indeed changes. Jesus never said it didn't.
in the first Adam it changed from incorruption to corruption, and in the Last Adam He will raise us from corruption to incorruption.

we will be changed, and we will not see decay or death any longer.
 

Thunderrr-mental

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We are in this discussion and once again
of course not.

because as i said earlier, that would be a clear contradiction of scripture: death did not enter the world until sin.

therefore, Adam when created had in him no death - his natural body, of dust, was uncorrupt. he did not decay, because decay is cell death.
but when he sinned, then death entered in, and 'dying, he died'

therefore his natural body changed, so it is not correct to say the natural body does not change.

Paul also taught us, we shall be changed ((1Cor 15:51)) and that the natural body is sown in corruption and raised in incorruption ((1 Cor 15:42)) - physical Resurrection, after the pattern of Christ, Who physically rose from the dead and physically ascended.

Paul also taught us, speaking by the Spirit of God, that this is the very hope of the gospel, "the redemption of our bodies" ((Romans 8:23)) - note that it is redemption, not destruction of our flesh we look forward to.

the dust, from which we are created in our natural form, was cursed, but Adam was not. and Christ, having made Himself for our sake a curse in order to redeem us, has taken away the curse.

the natural body very much indeed changes. Jesus never said it didn't.
we will be changed, and we will not see decay or death any longer.
I'm talking about this discussion here not another discussion in another thread.

Where by you choose to send my words backwards there to

And as for you saying death do not enter the world until sin that thread was not about that also.


So here is the question again was the life that was in Adam God's life and was that life alive to power of life before the fall.

Third time of asking.

Notice I'm asking
 

Thunderrr-mental

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#53
Most of my songs come from young pilgrims music 🙂

At the bottom of this picture it say young pilgrims music take a look

 

posthuman

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#54
I'm talking about this discussion here not another discussion in another thread.

Where by you choose to send my words backwards there to
 

posthuman

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#55
So here is the question again was the life that was in Adam God's life and was that life alive to power of life before the fall.

Third time of asking.

Notice I'm asking
already answered you.

Jesus is THE Life, not "a" life.

there is no such thing as life apart from Him, so it's a nonsense question. all life is "God's" - absolutely everything belongs to Him, and is by Him, for Him and through Him.
 

Thunderrr-mental

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already answered you.

Jesus is THE Life, not "a" life.

there is no such thing as life apart from Him, so it's a nonsense question. all life is "God's" - absolutely everything belongs to Him, and is by Him, for Him and through Him.
what life was in Adam before the fall was it God's life