Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

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Will the nonelect ever be born-again?

  • The nonelect can be born-again.

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  • The nonelect will never be born-again.

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MerSee

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Everlasting-Grace said:
lol

MAN DOES NOT PRODUCE FAITH ACCEPT IN HIMSELF.

Where do you come up with this stuff.

My fgaith in God is not produced by me, it is produced by the person who proves faithful, and earns my trust.
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It is impossible for you to have correct faith when you claim you don't even have the ability to believe correct/sound doctrine of Jesus Christ.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Your right, Thats why God has to show them and give them an opportunity to say yes lord or no lord. Its the work of God we believe, not our own work




No it was not

HIS FAITH WAS ACCOUNTED OR IMPUTED AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.

You did not read the whole passage

11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,


No. It says his faith was reckoned as righteousness..

He did have faith, thats why he was declaired righteous,. Christ righteousness was imputed to him.
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Matthew 16:26-28
26 For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul? 27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels: and then will he render to every man according to his works. 28 Amen I say to you, there are some of them that stand here, that shall not taste death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
yes,

and how was that righteousness imputed?

HE BELIEVED GOD and IT (his faith) was ACCOUNTED AS RIGHTEOUSNESS
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You claim to believe in God when you claim to not even have the ability to know what correct/sound doctrine is.

Judges 10:13
And yet you have forsaken me, and have worshipped strange gods: therefore I will deliver you no more:
 
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MerSee said:
You claim to believe in God when you claim to not even have the ability to know what correct/sound doctrine is.

Judges 10:13
And yet you have forsaken me, and have worshipped strange gods: therefore I will deliver you no more:
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Everlasting-Grace

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MerSee said:
It is not our fault you claim to not be able to believe correct/sound doctrine; I'm glad I don't have to face your consequences for your many errors.
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Oh but you do. Because you have many errors.

But sadly. as long as your pride makes you believe you do not have any errors. God will nto be able to show them to you
 
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TheDivineWatermark said:
I'm asking you something based on what you'd written (which I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly), where you'd said,



So, are you saying no persons were "saved" in the 2000 years between Adam and when Abraham existed, or what?
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No not saying that - Noah and his family were saved. I believe that between them and Abraham, no others were.
I'm saying Abraham was the first imputed the faith of Christ in that manner.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Oh but you do. Because you have many errors.

But sadly. as long as your pride makes you believe you do not have any errors. God will nto be able to show them to you
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The correct doctrine I believe comes from God Himself; you are accusing God of having errors.
 
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MerSee said:
Matthew 16:26-28
26 For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul? 27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels: and then will he render to every man according to his works. 28 Amen I say to you, there are some of them that stand here, that shall not taste death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
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Not sure how this relates to our discussion
 
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MerSee said:
You claim to believe in God when you claim to not even have the ability to know what correct/sound doctrine is.

Judges 10:13
And yet you have forsaken me, and have worshipped strange gods: therefore I will deliver you no more:
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dude.

Stop bearing false witness against me. I never said such a thing

I said I do nto believe everyone has 100% truth.. That is not the same as saying we can not believe or understand.
 
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