Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

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Will the nonelect ever be born-again?

  • The nonelect can be born-again.

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  • The nonelect will never be born-again.

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Charlie_2024

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FollowerofShiloh said:
It's how God made all men from one man so they would seek Him.

It's nothing of the sort. Plucking verses out of their intended context and applying them to unrelated verses, always leads to confusion and erroneous false doctrines. And you have perfectly demonstrated that
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FollowerofShiloh said:
We all have the same ancestor, Adam. And if we look at Adam' and God any human will know God is real.
That is what those verses mean.
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Knowing that God exists doesn't cause people to seek after Him anymore than does nature or conscience.
 
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8 ....... and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Learn this verse it describes YOU!
 
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Cameron143 said:
Knowing that God exists doesn't cause people to seek after Him anymore than does nature or conscience.
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It does cause some or it would not be mentioned.

26 God made one man. From that one man he has made all the nations of men to live on the whole earth. He has given to each nation a certain time and a certain place to live.

27 He did this so they would look for him. He wanted them to reach out and find him. But he is not far from each one of us.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
8 ....... and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Learn this verse it describes YOU!
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OK, so now you have stooped down to the same lowest denominator, which everyone does when they no answer or valid argument to defend their false and ignorant statements.
 
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OK, so now you have stooped down to the same lowest denominator, which everyone does when they no answer or valid argument to defend their false and ignorant statements.
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26 God made one man. From that one man he has made all the nations of men to live on the whole earth. He has given to each nation a certain time and a certain place to live.

27 He did this so they would look for him. He wanted them to reach out and find him. But he is not far from each one of us.

ENJOY!!

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**HE = GOD**
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
It does cause some or it would not be mentioned.

26 God made one man. From that one man he has made all the nations of men to live on the whole earth. He has given to each nation a certain time and a certain place to live.

27 He did this so they would look for him. He wanted them to reach out and find him. But he is not far from each one of us.
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Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice" His Sheep are the Elect saints of God. So we are the only ones who seek and find Him. The rest never seek or find
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
26 God made one man. From that one man he has made all the nations of men to live on the whole earth. He has given to each nation a certain time and a certain place to live.

27 He did this so they would look for him. He wanted them to reach out and find him. But he is not far from each one of us.

ENJOY!!

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**HE = GOD**
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That's dead wrong
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
It does cause some or it would not be mentioned.

26 God made one man. From that one man he has made all the nations of men to live on the whole earth. He has given to each nation a certain time and a certain place to live.

27 He did this so they would look for him. He wanted them to reach out and find him. But he is not far from each one of us.
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It only states that God designed things that people would know of His existence and seek after Him. That part is true. But it doesn't say men will. Romans 3 says in his fallen estate man will not seek Him. Romans 1 and 1 Corinthians 2 tell us why. So while it is true that God has designed nature, shaped our circumstances, and has given us consciences that we can know He exists, it does not state that these will cause us to seek after Him.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Only to YOU!!

Like I said, I follow and listen to God.

Knowing that you disagree with GOD PERSONALLY in these verses shows that you are not Following the same God of these verses!
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I obviously don't believe in your god. My God is not who you describe in that verse. I don't even know which bible you got that out of, but it's obviously not the true Byzantine Bible
 
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Cameron143 said:
It only states that God designed things that people would know of His existence and seek after Him. That part is true. But it doesn't say men will. Romans 3 says in his fallen estate man will not seek Him. Romans 1 and 1 Corinthians 2 tell us why. So while it is true that God has designed nature, shaped our circumstances, and given us consciences that we can know He exists, it does not state that these will cause us to seek after Him.
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It's proof that God does not have to visit each person for them to Believe because God designed it so men could see Him and seek God.

Paul quotes Psalms 53:
2 The fool hath said in his heart: 'There is no God
they have dealt corruptly, and have done abominable iniquity; there is none that doeth good.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
It's proof that God does not have to visit each person for them to Believe because God designed it so men could see Him and seek God.

Paul quotes Psalms 53:
2 The fool hath said in his heart: 'There is no God
they have dealt corruptly, and have done abominable iniquity; there is none that doeth good.

David said the FOOL but Paul said No One.

There's Fools and not Fools. I trust the man after God's Own Heart for the true meaning here.
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After God's own heart doesn't mean what you think it does. It doesn't mean that David had some unique heart qualities that endeared him to God. Afterall, David was an adulterer and murderer. It simply means he was God's choice. Saul was a man after the people's heart. He was the people's choice.
I get that you don't believe that none seek after God, but it's in scripture. You have to reconcile this some way.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
It's in the earliest Greek we have on record.
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I never asked about the language, I asked which translation your bible is. The two main ones are the Byzantine and Alexandrian, the Alexandrian one is corrupt so I suspect your Bible may be the Alexandrian translation.
 
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Cameron143 said:
After God's own heart doesn't mean what you think it does. It doesn't mean that David had some unique heart qualities that endeared him to God. Afterall, David was an adulterer and murderer. It simply means he was God's choice. Saul was a man after the people's heart. He was the people's choice.
I get that you don't believe that none seek after God, but it's in scripture. You have to reconcile this some way.
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None of this is why I introduced these scriptures anyways. I introduced them to show that God made a way and that man could seek God according to the Word of God.

Acts 17 is a fact whether it happens or not.
 
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Charlie_2024 said:
I never asked about the language, I asked which translation your bible is. The two main ones are the Byzantine and Alexandrian, the Alexandrian one is corrupt so I suspect your Bible may be the Alexandrian translation.
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I said the earliest Greek we have on file.
Oh, you only speak English I take it.....figures.
Guess I should not type in leshon ha-kodesh then.
 
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On Judgement Day God can make the claim in these verses to those who have rejected Him.

26 God made one man. From that one man he has made all the nations of men to live on the whole earth. He has given to each nation a certain time and a certain place to live.

27 He did this so they would look for him. He wanted them to reach out and find him. But he is not far from each one of us.
 
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What amazes me about YOU REFORMERS, who worship Paul's writings, Acts 17 is PAUL Preaching:
These are PAUL's WORDS spoken here!!
And you are Red Xing them hahahahaha...just shows who knows the Bible and who does not.

FollowerofShiloh said:
26 God made one man. From that one man he has made all the nations of men to live on the whole earth. He has given to each nation a certain time and a certain place to live.

27 He did this so they would look for him. He wanted them to reach out and find him. But he is not far from each one of us.
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