Did Jesus Have an Advantage over Pre-Fall Adam During the Incarnation?

Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

God was manifest in the flesh which Jesus is a visible image of the invisible God.

God laid down His life for us, and purchased the Church with His own blood.

Which Jesus is the fulness of the Godhead bodily, which He has the Spirit without measure, and it pleased the Father that in Him all fulness shall dwell.

The man Christ Jesus is the personal human body of God.

Of course He had an advantage, and He could not sin which the Bible says He was tempted in all points like we are but without sin.

Jesus was always led of the Spirit nothing wavering.

Which the Bible says a Spirit led person will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, for they have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Jesus said He did not come to destroy the law, but He came to fulfill it.

Which He is the perfect King, Prophet, High Priest, Saint, Mediator, Savior, a sinless man, the temple, and the sacrifice.

But He has not fulfilled the role of perfect King which must be done on Earth which that is what the millennial reign is about, and when He does that then heaven and earth shall pass away, and there will be a new heaven and earth.

Which He had to do everything a person had to do to be right with God for people to receive salvation, and He had to do it for His whole earthly life.

It has to take a sinless man that never sinned in order for mankind to receive salvation.

No person is sinless so God manifest Himself in flesh and became the sinless man, which He reconciled the world unto Himself in the person of Jesus Christ, God and man in harmony, and all who are led of the Spirit being Christlike is in harmony with God.

The Bible says Jesus dwells in the light whom no person can approach unto, and no person has seen Him, and no person will ever see Him for He is an invisible Spirit but He showed a visible image of Himself which we will see His visible image in heaven which is a glorified body which the saints will receive the same.

There's a difference between not being able to sin and not wanting to sin. If it was impossible for Jesus to sin then He did not live as a man.

No person is sinless because the Lord God imputed Adam's sin to all mankind. There's no reason to think that all would have sinned if we had been born as Adam was created. Two thirds of the angels never sinned. Sinning under those conditions is optional, not inevitable.

Jesus cannot rely on being God in order to live the perfect human life because if He did, He is not living the perfect human life. People need to stop looking at His Deity to see if He had an advantage, that goes without saying. The comparison is with His humanity.

Did he have an ace up His sleeve in His humanity?

In John 14:30 Jesus says the prince of the world cometh, but that he hath nothing in Me. Have you considered this verse before and, if so, do you have a take on it?

Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Makes me wonder what you think of Christ's humanity. You said yourself He lived as a man yet you think this man didn't need faith.

In John 14:30 Jesus says the prince of the world cometh, but that he hath nothing in Me. Have you considered this verse before and, if so, do you have a take on it?

Of course God doesn't need faith because he is God even if incarnated into a man's body.

Of course God doesn't need faith because he is God even if incarnated into a man's body.

Hebrews 11 says "By Faith God created..."

Hebrews 11 says "By Faith God created..."

We are going to continue disagreeing on this issue.

Think that means we understand creation by faith.

Does that twist apply to the rest of the list of acts done by believers? We understand by faith that Abraham left Ur when called by God?

Hebrews 11 says "By Faith God created..."

Sure but only one of us is right.

He keeps missing the point. Christ did not live as God during the Incarnation, He lived as a man and therefore needed to have faith as any man would need in order to please God.

Adam was a man, and only a man.

Jesus was God.

Since there is a difference between man and God, there is a difference between Adam and Jesus.




There is no confusion here, unless we first abandon scripture and orthodoxy.

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I have discussed this a couple of times with others, never coming to any consensus. I thought I would open the discussion here. Some say because He is God, He did have an advantage, others have been unsure.

What say you?

Jesus in his pre-human form, as the first born of all creation, spent A LOT of time with his Father. He had time to cultivate so much appreciation and love for Him (Colossians 1: 15; Proverbs 8: 22; Revelation 3: 14). So on one hand, you could say Adam did not have this advantage, however, consider the task that each man had.

Jesus, although having so much more love and appreciation for God, also had a much more challenging task (1 Peter 2: 23); unjustly executed, in a painful and humiliating way. As for Adam, his test of faith did not require any pain, sacrifice, humiliation, suffering. All he had to do was focus on all the good things he had been given, and not focus on the one thing he could not have; it was simply a matter of gratitude (Genesis 2: 16 - 17 ).

Relative to their tests, one could say neither had an advantage, but their strength was commensurate to their task.

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