The Law Is Out Of Date And Will "SOON DISAPPEAR"?

Well you seem not to be arguing with me, but the scriptures posted in my previous reply.

You might consider reading Romans 6 and Romans 3 because grace is not a license to sin and faith establishes the law. I mean how does one profess faith to God, but not faith to believe and do His teachings.

If there was no law, we wouldn't even need grace because sin is the transgression of God's law 1 John 3:4. You take away the law, you take away the need for grace and the need for a Savior who came to save us from sin.

Anyway, I figured it would get personal, it usually does instead of dealing with the scriptures. Guess we once again will have to agree to disagree. All gets sorted out soon enough but I wish you well in seeking Truth to God's Word.

Thanks. I understand the concept of the 2 main covenants.

The language of Jer31 and Heb8 remains, though, re: Israel and Judah. So, I thought I'd see you somehow tie that tighter to Christ.

It's not personal for me. It's a matter of understanding truth. I haven't labored with you to cause you harm. I've attempted to show you the preeminence of Christ and the
impossibility of a relationship with God based on keeping commandments.
Christ is not a schoolmaster to lead us to the law. Instead, the law is a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ.

The law is the schoolmaster to lead us to Christ Gal 3:24 and once in Christ He enables us to keep His law John 14:15-18

So in your view not doing what Jesus asks is the basis of a relationship?

There is a test on how Jesus knows us according to scripture. I think its very useful as a way to test ourselves.

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.

1 John 2:4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

So I agree we should be seeking Truth to God's Word. I also agree Christ is the center of everything, so when He writes something in our hearts, we should keep it there and treasure.

God's Son is the center of everything. You have missed this, preferring the law to Christ.

The test is one of 5 tests given in 1st John. It is hardly the only test. Can you not see how your bias towards the law has led you to only mention it. And while it is a good test, it includes both obedience inwardly and outwardly. A better test than obedience is fruit. It cannot be counterfeited as it's source is God the Holy Spirit. Love, peace, joy, etc. are its hallmark. These are the sure markings of God on a person.
You mentioned earlier about grace being a license or occasion of sin. No genuine Christian would ever view it that way. We have become new creations in Christ, we have received new hearts and new desires. Sin is anathema to the Christian and they mourn and sorrow over it. Anyone walking in the Spirit knows this reality.

Cameron, it is written Jesus is the lord of the sabbath, I tell you he is also lord of the Law! Jesus followed all of the laws when he was with us 2000 years ago, this has not changed He still does!

It's not personal for me. It's a matter of understanding truth. I haven't labored with you
to cause you harm. I've attempted to show you the preeminence of Christ and the
impossibility of a relationship with God based on keeping commandments.
Christ is not a schoolmaster to lead us to the law. Instead, the law is a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ.

The fruits of the Spirit breaks no law.

Hello friendly friends,

I am working my way through Day 356 of the timeline, chronological study plan and in this set of unbelievable Scripture, arises this matter of the Levitical Law and its expiration date.

Hebrews 8:13 KJV - 13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.
Hebrews 8:13 NLT - 13 When God speaks of a "new" covenant, it means he has made the first one obsolete. It is now out of date and will soon disappear.

There is plenty of Scripture to demonstrate that the Law has been removed as of the Resurrection of Christ.

I, at this time, believe that the Law has been extinct for a couple thousand years, but I need to make sure that I am, gulp, "right" about this belief.

Thank you to all who participate with the maturity that only comes from the same Love that the Father has for His Holy Son (should the Lord have placed it within you).

Okay so, which of the Ten Commandments are extinct?

None.


"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

- Matthew 5:17-19

Unless the lost tribes are Scottish, I'm pretty sure that doesn't include me.

I’m confused

The 10 commandments still apply today.

Which laws are disappearing? Yeah there’s a lot of laws about donkeys, holes in the ground, doves, pigeons, etc. I assume that’s what the OP is referring to?

…but the lost tribes also scattered to America.