Election teaches that salvation comes from the Lord.

But any time you sin you fulfill what Paul writes 3 verses later.
5 For those that are according to the flesh mind the things of the flesh, but those that are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

We are saved but when we sin we sin according to the flesh and not the Spirit.

We ALL sin.
We are not 100% Spiritual every second of the day.
Paul said we must kill our flesh daily because we sin daily.

People lie, change verses for their purpose, people have bad thoughts, when we drive and get almost hit we can get mad, we are always sinning according to the flesh even while being Spirit filled.

That's why Jesus taught saved Christians to pray the Lord's Prayer because you DAILY confess your sins and ask for forgiveness.

Anyone who says they do not sin is a LIAR!

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BTW, not picking on Roger just using his verse reference in Romans chapter 8

This is what we are to do when we know we have sinned...



1 John 1:9 sounds like God planned to take care of our sinning after we are saved?

grace and peace ..........

Amen
John clarifies what Jesus taught us in His Prayer, "Forgive us of our sins as we FORGIVE those who sinned against us."

All who are spiritually dead - those not made spiritually alive by Christ in this life -
on judgement day will suffer eternal damnation,
also called the second death. It is called the second death because they
are already once dead.
If Jesus is the Saviour (and He is), then what man knows
or doesn't know is irrelevant because it is Jesus who saves, not man.
It is not within man's power to cause himself to become saved.
And at this point I'm done.

What's your point?

You have been sounding like certain believers who believe they do not sin anymore.

14 For if you forgive men their offenses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you;

15 but if you for give not men, neither will your Father forgive your offenses.

It's conditional and it comes from the mouth of God Himself!

The passage also shows that Election, having been chosen in Christ before the foundation is part of Paul's Gospel message and it was heard in the Gospel they heard of him in Eph 1:13, so was being predestinated Vs 5

Thats not Gospel nor salvation. Jesus is speaking of believers already saved and God is their Father, so it hasn't nothing to do with the unbelieving world.

In terms of eternal salvation, no, I do not believe that anyone saved can sin a sin that can/will remove it from them,
or stop them from getting it if of the elect. To believe otherwise is to believe that sin is greater or more powerful than Christ and His offering and limits and demeans its efficacy.
I have a doctors appt. this morning so I won't be able reply until later.

What were we chosen for?

Chosen to have God force us to believe? (Calvinism)

Or, chosen for what we shall be made to be in time and eternity, because God knows we will choose to believe?

We have been chosen "in Him." = Chosen to be the Bride of Christ! Not all believers throughout history have been so chosen!

Good... because you failed to give a good reply the first time.

Try again.

Here it is again...

You have been sounding like certain believers who believe they do not sin anymore.

Explain, please!

Calvinists do not believe God forces anyone.

Read the passage, it tells us what the election was for

It clearly shows that it was Christ who is foreknown as the ONE to bring salvation that future believers would be IN before the foundation of the world. Odd for a self proclaimed Christian to miss that view to promote the self view that cannot happen without Christ.

I am not talking to unbelievers. Only to those who promote FALSE DOCTRINE! Interesting that you would even comment on it.

Jesus to be Savior and the WAY for believers to be everything listed in/by/through CHRIST JESUS!

Remove Jesus from Ephesians chapter 1 verses 3-5 and how can believers be Blessed, Chosen in Him, and adopted sons of God?

They cant!

So it is ALL about JESUS!

I did and either you couldn't understand or missed my reply. There are two kinds of sin: 1) sin against Christ as Saviour and
2) carnal, temporal sins of this world. To sin against Christ, unless becoming saved, results in eternal damnation. If guilty of that at the judgment, then any other sin that may have been committed, even though being earthly sin, pales in comparison as to effect.
It is like a mole hill being compared to Mount Everest. If one suffers eternal damnation, then can anything lesser mitigate that
condemnation or make it better?

Provide the post where I said "they do not sin anymore" so I can see exactly what you're referring to.

And by the way, no one made you a judge of my replies. I will reply how I want, when I want and if you don't
like them, that's your problem, not mine. I am not indebted or subservient to you to have to provide you any justification.