Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

I see you have been reduced to cartoons. Appropriate for the doctrine you espouse

I don't see it in every post you have made. The last couple or few yes. But that is still quite an
assumption to make. I mean, I heard lots of preaching and whatnot and it never opened my ears.
I listened to preaching for years and years and it did nothing at all for me but bore me eventually.
Then I departed the church for years, wandering the world, and began seeking. God opened my ears.
He spoke. I heard. I wonder why it is so hard for some to admit that God moves first in the lives
of unbelievers. I am not saying God does not use people to teach and preach. However, I do very
much doubt that is the only way people are moved. Some come to belief by reading, or seeking
truth in some other fashion when and/or where God reveals Himself. That is one of His promises.

It can't be both ways. God's wrath cannot be satisfied and not satisfied.
I understand what the scripture says. I'm suggesting it means something other than what is suggested in the apparent meaning of the verse.
But this is why I didn't care to delve into the verses. But either propitiation doesn't mean complete satisfaction of a matter or the phrase but for the sins of of the whole world means something else. Both cannot be true.

God knew people would ask questions like this and trying to fill in the blanks on things they feel necessary to do. But Paul said Faith comes by Hearing. Jesus said Believing, which is Faith in action, is the key to being saved. Even this verse here shows Hearing leads to Believing ...13 “In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him.

There's nothing else ever added to this equation, except people not part of the Bible, adding their personal opinion.

God could have said the Holy Spirit is what causes this and that but God does not.
God said, Hearing leads to Believing.
So somewhere in the process of Hearing ultimately leads to Believing.
God's Words.
27 Books in the New Testament that could have said what the Reformed Doctrine claims and NONE of those 27 Books do.
So I do not believe that Doctrine.
I believe what God has said because if there was more to say He would have.

We are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
God presented Him as the atoning sacrifice through faith in His blood,

It isn't both ways. It is offered to the whole world and contingent on faith.

Luke 5:20 says, “When Jesus saw their faith, He said ‘Friend, your sins are forgiven.’”

The question was related to who does one hear? And I did not just give my opinion.
Jesus said the time has come when people will hear Him and live. Who opens their
ears to hear? Who opens the eyes of the blind? Scripture says God does. Again, not
my opinion. Your opinion is that you set divine appointments. Where is that in Scripture?


John 5:24-25

Jesus said His words are SPIRIT and LIFE. Therefore, the words of the Gospel spoken are words of SPIRIT and LIFE. So that means, anyone who hears SPIRIT and LIFE speaking to them has to listen.

This is the best answer available:
63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

So when we repeat the words of Jesus, Who is God, by preaching/teaching the Gospel, using the Gospel for our Testimony, "we are speaking SPIRIT and LIFE."

So Jesus WORDS alone = HOLY SPIRIT and LIFE

And when we repeat them we are doing as Jesus did, speaking HOLY SPIRIT and LIFE to the ears of the dead and the dead have to listen.

That is funny for sure. The dead have to listen? How many sermons have spiritually dead people listened to
and what did they hear if their ears had not been opened first? I'll tell you what they heard: blah blah blah.

That's right: the flesh is no help at all. They are carnal and hear not the Truth when it is spoken.
The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.

Where is it in Scripture that you set divine appointments?

They hear. Every time we see Jesus or the Apostles speak people either agreed or got angry.

They can hear.
They might not like what they are hearing and do what they did to Stephen or throw Paul and Peter into Jail or threaten and eventually kill people but they can hear.

The non-elect will hear for all eternity in hell.

They hear. Every time we see Jesus or the Apostles speak people either agreed or got angry.

They can hear.
They might not like what they are hearing and do what they did to Stephen or throw Paul and Peter into Jail or threaten and eventually kill people but they can hear.

They hear. Every time we see Jesus or the Apostles speak people either agreed or got angry.

They can hear.
They might not like what they are hearing and do what they did to Stephen or throw Paul and Peter into Jail or threaten and eventually kill people but they can hear.

Who sees Jesus or the apostles speaking? You always seem to fall back on hearing
as if it were merely a physical attribute. Ears to hear would then mean people don't
have ears at all. Obviously, that is not what is meant.

The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.

Where is it in Scripture that you set divine appointments?

I'll go with this

.....belief that a man is born in a prison cell is distinct from the belief that the man is incapable of acknowledging that he is in a prison cell and accepting help to escape when it is clearly offered.
The Gospel message is the help and yes people can understand the message and they can accept or refuse the offer.
(Eric Kemp)

It is not established in scripture that the unregenerate person is incapable or not responding to the true correct message of the Gospel.

According to Jesus EVERYONE hears.

I am the one listening to God and creating the Divine appointment.

I have to admit that this part of God's word is not clear to me. I will have to give it some thought. It could mean not for the Jew only but also for gentiles. But who was the message addressed to? This will take some thought on my part!

unless you are humbled before God to submit to His truth that salvation belongs to Him and not your choice you will remain judicially blinded for God resists the proud and only gives grace to the humble.

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