Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

I think He was saying, "He who has ears that have hearing, let him pay attention to what I am saying." AkuO" means both to ear and to listen attentively.

What do you think "8:18...take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken..." taken in context, means exactly?

My friend, as you well know, if certain "people" acknowledge the Circumcision of Christ, they will be forced to acknowledge that they haven't received it. The Word Circumcision is a dividing sword, for very few can barely put the Word to their lips, especially men when they are surround by children and women. It makes them feel funny, for they do not understand it, therefore, they cannot understand the Saving Plan of Christ. In fact, when preachers and teachers want to protect the tender ears of little children from the discussion of Circumcision, they literally prevent them from knowing the Saving Plan of Christ. All this . . . because they do not understand this Essential Doctrine. Why do they not understand Spiritual Circumcision, because they have not received this precious Gift, the very Purpose for Christ's arrival . . .

John 9:39-41 NLT - "Then Jesus told him, "I entered this world to render judgment--to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind." Some Pharisees who were standing nearby heard him and asked, "Are you saying we're blind?" "If you were blind, you wouldn't be guilty," Jesus replied. "But you remain guilty because you claim you can see."

In order to keep the Saving Plan a hidden Mystery to the Blessed Jews, this teaching of Christ is the most plain teaching He would ever give regarding Spiritual Circumcision. It wouldn't be until Paul was given the eyes to see this teaching, that he was capable of explaining it like none other. Nonetheless, it is abundantly clear: No one can understand this teaching, regardless of how hard you and I try to explain it, UNLESS Jesus gives such people the Spiritual eyes and ears to see and hear it. It is utterly impossible.

I stopped studying Calvinism about thirty years ago. Studying Calvinism is NOT the study of the Bible, but the study of what Calvin taught. Who cares about Calvin (not to be rude or disrespectful to his person). I have had so many angry, upset imposters call me a Calvinist, but I have come to realize that this is simply a diversion from the fact that such people struggle to talk about the Bible. Thus they turn to something other than it as the means by which to destroy and diminish our personal spirits. These "people" are intent on causing us emotional harm, thus they fall deep into sounding just like the Blessed Jews during the Day of Christ . . . and their ugly words turned to murder. Whom did they not kill first with their words, and then with their hands? These people are dangerous, for they are filled with hatred for Christian men and women, proven by their strong and uncontrollable need to cause emotional damage. They do not know how to build others up and encourage. Rather, they thrive upon and enjoy hurting others because of what they believe. They are neither patient nor kind, but impatient and slanderous . . . the qualities that come from their Spiritual Father, the Devil.

These people are unwilling to acknowledge the Purpose of Christ, which Jesus clearly explained in John 9:39-41, but if these people were to acknowledge His Purpose, they would be forced to acknowledge His Spiritual and physical Work (in order to put His Purpose into action). If people refuse to acknowledge the Messiah's Work, they will have created an evil path by which to deny His Spiritual Effect.

But as I have said in the past, there are very few uncorrupted preachers and teachers who teach them the truth. Christianity today is as Pure as the Blessed Jews of 2000 years ago. In fact, the Blessed Jews of yesterday were and are a pattern for the obviously lost church of this day. The lost always have the same attitude of hatred, and the fact that they resort to horrible name-calling is essentially equivalent to possessing murder in their hearts.

Oh, how beautifully said! It is simply mind-boggling to see that these people do not care that they obviously disregard the command to Love one another, just as the Father Loves His Son. But if this Love is not within them; if this Love has not been granted, there is zero chance that they can express such Love. A person cannot give what they have not been given.

If not for you and Magenta, this place would seem absolutely hopeless. I am so thankful to read both of your most Holy Words, for I know deep within that the understanding that we possess has come from Transformation. We cannot possibly understand these things if our hearts of soft, tender flesh, had not been given as a replacement to our former hearts made of stone.

I am so thankful that He rescued me from the clutches of Satan by giving me a new heart and spirit, and Holy Spirit just as described in Ezekiel 36:25-27. For some insane reason, people reject these beautiful Scriptures that outline Spiritual Circumcision, yet they may sing in their church the following:

Psalm 51:10-12 KJV - "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit."

It is staggering that they do not understand Spiritual Circumcision, yet each time they sing this song, they are singing about the Purpose, Work, and Effect of His Work . . . and they have no clue. None.

And to prove what I have written, Paulthompson thinks my words are funny. Such people remind me of Bildad, Zophar, and Eliphaz.

Might consider taking a new screenshot. There are now three "winners" given.

Eternity past just means before creation. As far as the rest, I don't understand what exactly you are wanting me to consider. Can you clarify?

Not sure. It could mean something like hearken or listen diligently. I'm still studying the passage.

I read it as if a teach is say, "Attention, class!"
Or a truck driver, "...anybody got their ears on?!"
or a divine APB

Speaking to the general narrative of this system, capisci.

And yet you, as in you >>> Mr. Cameron do assert a "spiritual hearing", which means Gods acts upon the person so maybe a slight deviation from the irresistible grace.

And yet we are left with the same conundrum of a god who leaves people unable to hear, in their sin even after hearing the Gospel message and allows others to hear, same difference really.

if I were delivering the sermon, I'd have said something like, "God gave you ears, use them"

What Jesus didn't say, "....Let him hear, that is, unless he wasn't given ears to hear and/or I've stopped up the ears he has been given."

The view that God grants repentance, spiritual hearing to individuals on a case by case, denying others, is non-scriptural and maligns God

So it is very understandable why people push back and sometimes quite hard.

Isaiah preached:
3 Incline your ear, and come unto Me; hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

Jesus taught:
23 If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.”
24 Then He continued, “Pay attention to what you hear."


Both of these examples are when speaking to [(LARGE groups of people)] and we know many who heard are the ONES who yelled Crucify Him.

So this is for anyone with ears.

The only case for Spiritual Hearing is after we "are saved."

It's called hearing the Small Still Voice.

It's like going some place and you see someone in need but you get a feeling that you should buy that person food or give money and share God Loves Them. This is what Spiritual Hearing is all about.

Well not sure this a scriptural thing but certainly a St. Augustine view.

However, once again this does not mean that natural man is born morally incapable of responding to the power of the Gospel message!!

The inability to be perfect does not equate to the inability to trust in the perfect One and the message He has given for the ages

to believe in HIM and His work on mankind's behalf.

Jesus does make a distinction between hearing and understanding and hearing and not understanding. If someone believes that that is a function of the hearer I get that. But if understanding is a function of revelation, hearing is no longer a function of the hearer, but is a function of one's spiritual estate.
I don't believe every reference to hearing must of necessity include the spirit. But neither does it mean none do.
As Christians, we ask God for understanding and wisdom. Why? Because we recognize that there are spiritual truths and realities beyond our natural abilities.

Thank you and Thank you!!

Understanding the Gospel message is NOT out of reach of the natural man and his natural abilities.

....and yet there will be some way around this absolute truth too, waiting. lol