Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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ZNP

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Where have YOU been????

Politicians have been breast-beating as ling as I can remember (Since Eisenhower) about "Social Security becoming insolvent" for one reason or another. the fear-mongers seem to think it's a good "Panic handle" to get their hack politicians votes!!!
But if SS goes bankrupt that would mean our investments are bankrupt and I heard that SS is completely invested in US treasury bonds
 

Bob-Carabbio

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But if SS goes bankrupt that would mean our investments are bankrupt and I heard that SS is completely invested in US treasury bonds
Regardless - according to the politicians and the "media talking heads": for the last 50 - years, Social Security will go bankrupt in a few years!!! I never said there was any "TRUTH" to any of it - just typical U.S. politics as usual.
 

ZNP

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Regardless - according to the politicians and the "media talking heads": for the last 50 - years, Social Security will go bankrupt in a few years!!! I never said there was any "TRUTH" to any of it - just typical U.S. politics as usual.
The US government would have to go bankrupt and the only way that happens is if they set up a new reserve currency and a new international trade settlement. Something like a gold backed security like BRICS. But no one will trust that unless Saudi Arabia agrees to sell oil in that currency.
 
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Fact-checking CLaims from Biden and Trump during the first 2024 debate.

Proverbs 6:16-19
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16 ¶ These sixe things doeth the Lord hate; yea seuen are an abomination vnto him:

17 A proude looke, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood:

18 An heart that deuiseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischiefe:

19 A false witnesse that speaketh lies; and him that soweth discord among brethren.
 

gb9

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Proverbs 6:16-19
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16 ¶ These sixe things doeth the Lord hate; yea seuen are an abomination vnto him:

17 A proude looke, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood:

18 An heart that deuiseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischiefe:

19 A false witnesse that speaketh lies; and him that soweth discord among brethren.
c b s news fact checking trump-:ROFL::ROFL:

c b s= fake news...
 

Nehemiah6

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...and I heard that SS is completely invested in US treasury bonds
When your money is just paper, and the government ensures higher and higher inflation, what are treasury bonds worth?
 

ZNP

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When your money is just paper, and the government ensures higher and higher inflation, what are treasury bonds worth?
The point is that saying that SS is bankrupt equals saying the entire US economy and dollar has collapsed.

Also, consider how big a role SS plays in our economy. Most likely 100% of the money paid to seniors goes right back into the economy. So if it goes bust that will have a huge impact on our service economy.
 

Nehemiah6

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So if it goes bust that will have a huge impact on our service economy.
The question is "Why is it a service economy when it should be an manufacturing economy? " China got all the manufacturing jobs, while the manufacturing industries were deliberately killed.
 

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What's Happening to the "MAKE
What's Happening to the MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN Republican Party?


Infowars Article, Video at source:

Conservatives Outraged After Pro-Abortion Rapper Amber Rose Gets Primetime Speaking Slot at RNC
by Calvin Freiburger | Lifesite
July 17th 2024, 7:34 am

Amber Rose spoke about how she came to realize how the media had lied to her about Donald Trump, but does not appear to have recanted any other aspects of her liberal, pro-promiscuity recent history.

MILWAUKEE (LifeSiteNews) — Pro-abortion rapper and purveyor of sexual “entertainment” Amber Rose delivered a primetime speech at the first night of the Republican National Convention on Monday, singing the praises of former president and current White House nominee Donald Trump while reinforcing fears about the future of the GOP’s conservative identity.
Rose is a bisexual model, rapper and former stripper who to this day maintains a page on the subscription content platform OnlyFans (which is most well known for sexual material). Rose’s page, headed by a profile picture of herself fully nude, offers “the most exciting, wild, and real version of myself. Join me and let me make your dreams come true.”
Last year, the New York Post quoted her as explaining the latter to her then-nine-year-old son as follows: “Like, when it comes to women, you have to let women do what they need to do to support their families. You want to go to a nice school? Six Flags? Universal? Travel? Mommy has to make money.”
In 2015, Rose led the Los Angeles “SlutWalk,” an event that was part of a long-running global movement meant to push back against so-called “slut shaming” and “rape culture” in favor of embracing sexuality. One profile of the event from the time described it as drawing “thousands of women, who bore everything from bare breasts to signs with provocatively powerful PSAs written across them, such as: ‘My P***y, My Property,’ ‘Control Yourselves, Not Women’ and ‘Hoes Can Say No.’”
“Amber’s walk today was not only in honor of all women but also trans-women and those in the gay community who have been subjected to homophobic slurs and discrimination, many of which Amber claims have effected (sic) her and her friends throughout the years,” the profile added. Rose continued her role in SlutWalk over the following years....
Politically, Rose would have been an awkward fit for the Republican Party before its multiple leftward changes this year. In 2016, she called Trump a “f***ing idiot” whom she “really hope(d)” would not become president, and said of Democrat opponent Hillary Clinton, “I love her, and always have.”
Four years later, she slammed ex-boyfriend Kanye West for his pro-life awakening, complaining about women being “shamed” for “aborting cells that might turn into kids (…) Please stop telling women what to do with our bodies.” In March, Rose gave an interview where she said that while “I don’t believe that God exists at all,” she does consider Satanism a “very rational, logical religion” that “help a lot of women get abortions.”
She first indicated that her candidate preference, but not necessarily her underlying political values, had since changed in May 2024, when she endorsed Trump on Instagram via a selfie of herself with the former president and his wife Melania. She responded to critics with another post asking, “yall think (Joe) Biden cares about black ppl” and going on to say, “Y’all want biological men in women’s sports. Trump supports the most reasonable compromise on abortion. Stop being brainwashed cuz WE’RE ppl of color. Make your own decisions.”
During Rose’s convention speech, she explained that she changed her opinion on the Republican presidential nominee after arguing with her pro-Trump father, who challenged her to research her assumptions about him being bigoted. She says doing so led her to the realization that “the media has lied to us about Donald Trump.”
“I realized Donald Trump and his supporters don’t care if you’re Black, white, gay or straight,” she said. “It’s all love. And that’s when it hit me: These are my people. This is where I belong (…) We all want a better country for our children. But I’m here tonight to tell you, no matter your political background, that the best chance we have to give our babies a better life is to elect Donald Trump president.”
Rose’s invitation to the GOP convention has been justified as part of broadening the party’s appeal to different walks of life. But numerous commentators took it instead as further evidence of the party diluting and abandoning its commitment to pro-life and pro-family principles:

The speech came amid ongoing dismay over the RNC’s adoption of a new, shortened, Trump-backed party platform, which among other changes cuts the GOP’s longstanding support for federal action to end legal abortion in favor of leaving abortion policy to individual states, removes references to opposing same-sex “marriage” or the Supreme Court precedent that forced it on the country, and endorses birth control (many common methods of which function as abortifacients) and embryo-destructive in vitro fertilization.

The speech came amid ongoing dismay over the RNC’s adoption of a new, shortened, Trump-backed party platform, which among other changes cuts the GOP’s longstanding support for federal action to end legal abortion in favor of leaving abortion policy to individual states, removes references to opposing same-sex “marriage” or the Supreme Court precedent that forced it on the country, and endorses birth control (many common methods of which function as abortifacients) and embryo-destructive in vitro fertilization.
 

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You forgot that Trump was a Democrat his entire life until he decided to run for President? Then he pretended to be a Christian, and he is doing it again. Even using computer generated pics of him praying in a church. Why? So Conservative Christians can feel less guilty of voting for him?

The whole bunch: Dems and Repubs are not worthy of being President.
This guy gets it. Bravo!
 

Nehemiah6

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Its to their detriment to not vote for an unGODly man?
And you believe you are godly while you hate Trump and love Biden and Harris? Talk to God about your Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Why do the Democrats, the Leftists, and the Deep State hate Trump so much? Because he wants to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN and they want to totally destroy it and make into into a Marxist/Communist/Fascist country. Since Marxism is godless while Trump gave glory to Almighty God for sparing his life, this is spiritual warfare and you are on the wrong side. If God spared Trump it was for a good reason.
 
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Neither has been found liable for rape. 4 indictments and 88 felony charges are mostly bogus and an attempt by the party opposite to influence the election.
I should have said sexual assault Instead of rape.
 
The question is "Why is it a service economy when it should be an manufacturing economy? " China got all the manufacturing jobs, while the manufacturing industries were deliberately killed.
Yes we should still be a manufacture base nation. Politicians more concerned about their legacies instead of national stability sold us out.

The answer to that question goes back more than 53 years ago. Skim through these to links and it will answer some of your question. Americans think of time in election cycles, Asia thinks of time in blocks of decades and more.

https://www.history.com/news/nixon-china-visit-cold-war

https://china.usc.edu/getting-beijing-henry-kissingers-secret-1971-trip