Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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They are taking the words of Dylan Thomas to heart:

Do Not Go Gentle into That Good Night
BY DYLAN THOMAS
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
 
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It must not have gone well, since Pence refuses to endorse or vote for Trump.
If Pence holds forgiveness, it's his problem. We didn't want him either.
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You really think Trump is basically a moderate Dem?
Didn't say that.

And btw, crime was higher under Trump,
You sure know those liberal talking points. And, nope.


left office with a negative jobs creation record.
Liberal talking points.
 

cv5

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Yeah, I get it; you've already said it many times: You'll follow Trump over the cliff if he commands you to.
You know man, if it is possible, could you include actual links to actual facts in your posts?
You know, try and bear a burden instead of throwing rotten tomatoes.

Seems like I am doing much of the heavy lifting here.
 
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ZNP, Cv5,

Now you know we live in evil times. How can you argue that Trump is better than Biden/Kamala? When they are both Bad. Trump doesn't even have a bible, and if he does, he doesn't read it. Remember when he stood outside of a church and was asked if that was his Bible? he answered," Um, it's a bible" Then When asked about his favourite verse was, what did he say? "an eye for an eye" it is also apparent that the Love of Christ Jesus is not in him. I have had this conversation so many times that I have grown weary of it. I would like to remind you that this is all in God's hands. There will be no political party in Heaven. All that really matters is whether you are a Christian or not. I doubt Trump will even make it to heaven and to put your faith in such a man...You should put your faith in God.

Who the lawless one is—Trump, Biden, or Kalama—remains to be seen. The Bible does say, however, that the antichrist isn't just one individual. Just as a demon can enter and exist a human at will so can the Devil.

What i can say is certain is that Christians will stand their last trials pretty soon and that is God's will. I hope all you brothers and sisters in Christ will be there with me in heaven.
 
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I can agree with that. He hired a bunch of big name show ponies last time....not many were competent.
I think he got sold a bill of goods by someone for those he hired. Nobody knows everyone. But he didn't fire a lot of people either. (DC is a cesspool)
Yet he promised he would hire "only the best and brightest".

He didn't.
 

ZNP

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ZNP, Cv5,

Now you know we live in evil times. How can you argue that Trump is better than Biden/Kamala? When they are both Bad. Trump doesn't even have a bible, and if he does, he doesn't read it. Remember when he stood outside of a church and was asked if that was his Bible? he answered," Um, it's a bible" Then When asked about his favourite verse was, what did he say? "an eye for an eye" it is also apparent that the Love of Christ Jesus is not in him. I have had this conversation so many times that I have grown weary of it. I would like to remind you that this is all in God's hands. There will be no political party in Heaven. All that really matters is whether you are a Christian or not. I doubt Trump will even make it to heaven and to put your faith in such a man...You should put your faith in God.

Who the lawless one is—Trump, Biden, or Kalama—remains to be seen. The Bible does say, however, that the antichrist isn't just one individual. Just as a demon can enter and exist a human at will so can the Devil.

What i can say is certain is that Christians will stand their last trials pretty soon and that is God's will. I hope all you brothers and sisters in Christ will be there with me in heaven.
What are you referring to? Can you give me a link to the offending post of mine? Generally speaking I argue against sin and point out the sin and hypocrisy. I do that to show people that the whole world lies in the evil one. So if that doesn't apply to the post you have in mind please let me see what it is you are talking about?
 
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If this data was conducted based off voting record, I'm curious to see what mechanism, if any, they created to offset Democrats NOT voting with the "liberal" agenda because it was not liberal enough. Maybe it's marginal it wouldn't really make a difference. Interesting data nevertheless.
I believe you can find a full description of their methodologies at the link.

A random hot take of mine in regard to the American population in general... data shows that theists procreate more than non-theists. Most (not all) theists tend to be conservative. Most (not all) of the time, children grow up obtaining a similar ideological framework that their parents do. Perhaps I'm more hopeful, but I think if this keeps trending, the US will have to be swinging a bit more conservative over the next few decades.
The problem is, kids today are leaving our faith in droves. They're the most non-religious generation in US history, and what's really sad is how the main thing driving them away is Christians, not Christianity itself.
 
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If Pence holds forgiveness, it's his problem. We didn't want him either.

So in your absolute loyalty to Trump, you will even turn on Mike Pence, an actual true Christian in politics?


Wow.

You sure know those liberal talking points. And, nope.
Liberal talking points.
If you have info showing crime rates are higher now than in 2020, and that Trump didn't have a net negative jobs record, then post it. Just saying "nope" isn't meaningful. It's what little kids do.
 

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ZNP, Cv5,

Now you know we live in evil times. How can you argue that Trump is better than Biden/Kamala?
What I want to know from you is this:
1) Is it legal for the CIA to engage in ANY domestic matter?
2) Is it legal for the CIA to deliberately interfere in a presidential election?
3) who benefited from the abovementioned ILLEGAL activities?
 
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So in your absolute loyalty to Trump, you will even turn on Mike Pence, an actual true Christian in politics?

Wow.
Wow dude, put words in peoples mouth much do ya?!



If you have info showing crime rates are higher now than in 2020, and that Trump didn't have a net negative jobs record, then post it. Just saying "nope" isn't meaningful. It's what little kids do.
Nope, because you're using talking points. You already know it's false. That's what libs do.
 

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If you have info showing crime........2020
Hey man, speaking of "crime"......

Why would you affirm and support the overt treasonous and illegal CIA and FBI election interference in 2020?
As far as you are concerned, are these escapades a grave and serious threat to the Republic? Or no biggie cuz "orange man bad"?
 

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If you have info showing crime rates are higher now than in 2020
Hey man, what is your opinion of the VAST and horrific COVID crimes, lies, hoaxes, rights violations, massive illegal censorship and cancelling and deliberate election fraud committed by the Democrats, Fauci, the CIA, FBI, and the MSM propaganda organs?

Huge numbers of unnecessary deaths. Democrats and their syndicate are responsible in great measure.

You cool with that too since "orange man bad"?

Pizza Pepe on X: "Do you remember when these Doctors tried to warn us about covid but MSM hid the video from the world? Sharing it would get you banned? Wild times. https://t.co/f1wGWM4JDR" / X
 
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I actually agree with many of Trump's followers about the Democrats and the issues facing the US. My main issue, my only issue really, is their willingness to throw so much support behind someone like Trump in hope that he can fix things. It's like they've disengaged their brains and thrown reason out the window. These kinds of people are truly dangerous because they can't seem to understand the consequences of their actions; all they know is they have an agenda that must be accomplished at all costs. This couldn't be any clearer than be reading all the responses from people in this thread who simply don't care about the consequences.
 
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Wow dude, put words in peoples mouth much do ya?!

You said you wanted Trump over Pence.


Nope, because you're using talking points. You already know it's false. That's what libs do.
Again, just saying "nope" is what little kids do.

Do you have any info showing crime is higher now than under Trump, and that Trump actually left office with a positive jobs record? Yes or no.