SO MANY FALSE PASTORS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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i'm not attending church steadily, haven't been since covid. totally, i wish i was. i certainly tried a bunch but they are boring. here's the story on a church i last attended on Sep 1st: 3 times during the service the pastor said, "it's in the Bible in........ no, it's over in......well it's in the Bible somewhere"!!! holy heavens, you're a pastor? from 2009 til 2016, i also tried a bunch of churches, a lot of them. nothing doing! the church i attended from 2017 til 2020, had the same rhythm pattern for every song. now that's sad. so i keep listening & or watching: Uceff, Rogers, Prince, C Stanley, Jeffres, MacGee, Hutchins, Swindoll, C Smith, K Hagin, Jeremiah, Hibbs, Colsen, C. Kapps, W Kroll, G Lawrie & a bunch of others.
Just curious. What is your expectations from a church service? How do you prepare for each service?
 

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i'm not attending church steadily, haven't been since covid. totally, i wish i was. i certainly tried a bunch but they are boring. here's the story on a church i last attended on Sep 1st: 3 times during the service the pastor said, "it's in the Bible in........ no, it's over in......well it's in the Bible somewhere"!!! holy heavens, you're a pastor? from 2009 til 2016, i also tried a bunch of churches, a lot of them. nothing doing! the church i attended from 2017 til 2020, had the same rhythm pattern for every song. now that's sad. so i keep listening & or watching: Uceff, Rogers, Prince, C Stanley, Jeffres, MacGee, Hutchins, Swindoll, C Smith, K Hagin, Jeremiah, Hibbs, Colsen, C. Kapps, W Kroll, G Lawrie & a bunch of others.
Do yourself a huge favor and listen to Chronister. The finest living Bible scholar IMO.

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/
 

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Most churches proved during Covid lockdowns that attendance is optional.
Upon the first day of the week the disciples came together to break bread. That's not an option; they met as the body of Christ, which is the church, to remember the Lord and partake of the Lord's supper in his remembrance. They physically came together (Acts 20:7). And too, Hebrews 10:25 states "not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is". Here too it appears that assembling together as the church is important and should not be taken lightly.
 

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Just curious. What is your expectations from a church service? How do you prepare for each service?
my expectation is what every Christian's expectation should be: listening to a real "teacher-preacher" pastor. not someone fumbling around. not bragging, but i have 311 Bible verses memorized & i can do a lot better job than the local pastors.
 

Karlon

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cv5

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you shouldn't tell someone: "which i know you have never properly understood" "ever". you don't know me & you don't know what i know. consider another friendly statement.
OK. You probably don't know and never will unless you hear Chronister.
Is that any better?
 

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Titus 1:16
They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good. (NIV)
 
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my expectation is what every Christian's expectation should be: listening to a real "teacher-preacher" pastor. not someone fumbling around. not bragging, but i have 311 Bible verses memorized & i can do a lot better job than the local pastors.
I know a young man who is probably the absolute worst speaker in the world. On the surface, if you encountered him from the point of view "He ain't got no reason to be speaking about Christ", and started criticizing his delivery, you would never get the blessing of his spoken word of God.

So you have memorized 311 verses, and you say that you can a better job than the local pastors. Memorize this verse.

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. (KJV)

I listen to the message being preached, not to how well it is delivered. I have never attended a church service where God didn't speak to me through to message delivered.
 

Karlon

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I know a young man who is probably the absolute worst speaker in the world. On the surface, if you encountered him from the point of view "He ain't got no reason to be speaking about Christ", and started criticizing his delivery, you would never get the blessing of his spoken word of God.

So you have memorized 311 verses, and you say that you can a better job than the local pastors. Memorize this verse.

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. (KJV)

I listen to the message being preached, not to how well it is delivered. I have never attended a church service where God didn't speak to me through to message delivered.
great for you. in your area, maybe true. not here. even in the 18th century, John Bunyan was passing thru & skipped over because he sensed a dark spiritual cloud. many people say what i say about this area. i listen intently. don't assume it's me. this are is terrible abut having real teacher preachers. no one wants to hear 500 words that says nearly nothing. we had 1 for a short while, from 1999 to 2009! there was an issue concerning church policy so the pastor upped & left.
 

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Do yourself a huge favor and listen to Chronister. The finest living Bible scholar IMO.

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/
I picked one.
https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/91124620262665/
The title alone is false.
All Bodies Resurrected? Yes! Jesus will resurrect all Animals and Humans!
Imagine animals with no soul by the billions of trillions being resurrected at once.
The only reason I posted this is because you recommended it as the best, not because I wanted to criticize you. :)