Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ResidentAlien

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Elon Musk predicts if people don't get out and elect the Donald it will be the last election. Is he really relying on people to be dumb enough to believe this? If you think it will be the last election if Trump's not elected I've got a bridge you might be interested in.

 

cv5

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(1) 🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸 on X: "Confirmed: Judge Aileen Cannon" / X

On May 25, a 3-time convicted violent criminal (allegedly) threatened to kidnap and murder a federal judge--and kidnap and harm the judge's family--in St. Lucie County, Florida.

Three days later, he (allegedly) repeated his threats. On July 24, he (allegedly) threatened to kill the judge again.

The Biden-Kamala Justice Department didn't bring charges until September 25--4 months after the deadly threats began. Why? (Was this Judge Aileen Cannon and her family?)

(1) 🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸 on X: "On May 25, a 3-time convicted violent criminal (allegedly) threatened to kidnap and murder a federal judge--and kidnap and harm the judge's family--in St. Lucie County, Florida. Three days later, he (allegedly) repeated his threats. On July 24, he (allegedly) threatened to kill https://t.co/PSaUfSQS4V" / X
 

cv5

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An absolutely disgusting position she has taken on abortion. Interesting timing.
So maybe Donaldo is not so pro-life after all, just another fake position.

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What Walz is saying is utterly false. In fact, @realDonaldTrump recently posted that he would VETO a nationwide abortion ban!

(1) Elon Musk on X: "What Walz is saying is utterly false. In fact, @realDonaldTrump recently posted that he would VETO a nationwide abortion ban! https://t.co/QdXkYQWQ1X" / X
 

ZNP

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Elon Musk predicts if people don't get out and elect the Donald it will be the last election. Is he really relying on people to be dumb enough to believe this? If you think it will be the last election if Trump's not elected I've got a bridge you might be interested in.

He is an optimist
 

cv5

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He is an optimist
Oh......I'm pretty sure that he is a realist.
Engineers usually are, or it all goes kaput with a lot of lawsuits.
 

ZNP

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which scripture in Matthew is referring to Israel's salvation as a nation?
Matthew 2:13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. 14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: 15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. 16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men. 17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying, 18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not. 19 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, 20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life. 21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel.

This account is only in Matthew. Think of how nicely this correlates with Israel returning to the land in 1948 after the Holocaust and after the defeat of Nazi Germany. This supports the idea that Matthew was written to the Nation of Israel which will be saved at the end of the tribulation as a nation.
 

HeIsHere

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I was shocked to read about Melania, who is a Catholic, and the Catholic church is (or was for the longest time) strongly against abortion. A woman's body belongs equally to the baby once he or she is conceived. So that is a mere pretension.

Trump has flip-flopped from pro-life to pro-choice several times. But a leader should take a clear moral stand. All he has to do is say that he is pro-life, but will not impose his views on others, and that when the Supreme Court ruled on Roe v Wade, that settled the issue. Let the states make whatever decision their people want. He says he believes in God, so why does he not obey Him (or listen to him)?
I am sure there are many who have wondered this as well.

I sense he can be influenced on moral issues, I do sense that he is not a deep thinker. If someone told him the Bible does not forbid abortion because it is not directly mentioned he probably would just accept it and not critically analyze it further.

I do wonder why Melania released the pro-abortion video so close to the election, perhaps she is trying to appeal to certain feminist women who may not support Trump but maybe will because of her views on abortion.

I am sure there was some strategy at play.
 

cv5

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I am sure there are many who have wondered this as well.

I sense he can be influenced on moral issues, I do sense that he is not a deep thinker. If someone told him the Bible does not forbid abortion because it is not directly mentioned he probably would just accept it and not critically analyze it further.

I do wonder why Melania released the pro-abortion video so close to the election, perhaps she is trying to appeal to certain feminist women who may not support Trump but maybe will because of her views on abortion.

I am sure there was some strategy at play.
@realDonaldTrump

EVERYONE KNOWS I WOULD NOT SUPPORT A FEDERAL ABORTION BAN, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND WOULD, IN FACT, VETO IT, BECAUSE IT IS UP TO THE STATES TO DECIDE BASED ON THE WILL OF THEIR VOTERS (THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!). LIKE RONALD REAGAN BEFORE ME, I FULLY SUPPORT THE THREE EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE, INCEST, AND THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS RADICAL POSITION OF LATE TERM ABORTION LIKE, AS AN EXAMPLE, IN THE 7TH, 8TH, OR 9TH MONTH OR, IN CASE THERE IS ANY QUESTION, THE POSSIBILITY OF EXECUTION OF THE BABY AFTER BIRTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
 

HeIsHere

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I am not sure how this relates to the video by Melania supporting abortion on demand.:unsure:

Really sad how fickle Trump is on this topic and it does not help that is unable to express a clear and consistent message on this issue.
 

HeIsHere

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@realDonaldTrump

EVERYONE KNOWS I WOULD NOT SUPPORT A FEDERAL ABORTION BAN, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND WOULD, IN FACT, VETO IT, BECAUSE IT IS UP TO THE STATES TO DECIDE BASED ON THE WILL OF THEIR VOTERS (THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!). LIKE RONALD REAGAN BEFORE ME, I FULLY SUPPORT THE THREE EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE, INCEST, AND THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATS RADICAL POSITION OF LATE TERM ABORTION LIKE, AS AN EXAMPLE, IN THE 7TH, 8TH, OR 9TH MONTH OR, IN CASE THERE IS ANY QUESTION, THE POSSIBILITY OF EXECUTION OF THE BABY AFTER BIRTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!

Still not sure how this is connected to Melania and her my body my choice video.
 

Nehemiah6

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I do wonder why Melania released the pro-abortion video so close to the election, perhaps she is trying to appeal to certain feminist women who may not support Trump but maybe will because of her views on abortion.
This is not necessary and will backfire with the millions of pro-life voters. Don't these people think? Supporting LGBTQ is also another mistake. Sexual perversion is a private matter like abortion. Why don't politicians simply say this and be done with it?

The economy, the border crises, and the total destruction of America should be the focus. Trump has not factually summarized and presented the total destruction of America by DOMESTIC ENEMIES. That's what he should have been saying all along. That Biden and Harris are domestic enemies. I don't believe people have heard this repeatedly, while he has been called the enemy of democracy a hundred times. Domestic enemies plot assassination of opponents.
 

HeIsHere

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This is not necessary and will backfire with the millions of pro-life voters. Don't these people think? Supporting LGBTQ is also another mistake. Sexual perversion is a private matter like abortion. Why don't politicians simply say this and be done with it?

The economy, the border crises, and the total destruction of America should be the focus. Trump has not factually summarized and presented the total destruction of America by DOMESTIC ENEMIES. That's what he should have been saying all along. That Biden and Harris are domestic enemies. I don't believe people have heard this repeatedly, while he has been called the enemy of democracy a hundred times. Domestic enemies plot assassination of opponents.
I mostly agree, except I personally do not consider abortion a private manner and probably just as harmful to the country as everything else.

That's what he should have been saying all along.
Yes agree. He lacks precision and doubtful he will change.