Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit

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Is unbelief the unpardonable sin?




Unbelief in The Power of The Holy Spirit Is Unforgivable. The role of the Holy Spirit is to convict the believer of sin. If a person denies the power of the Holy Spirit, then there is no power that can bring a person to repentance.May 8, 2022
I believe that the unpardonable sin is when someone knowingly attributes the work of God to Satan.
 

PaulThomson

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The word of God doesn't say that unbelief is the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
The word of God does not specifically define what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is. We infer from context what it could mean. Different people infer different meanings.

Using the context of Luke 12, what speaking against the Holy Ghost mean?


8Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.
10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven."
 

PaulThomson

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I believe that the unpardonable sin is when someone knowingly attributes the work of God to Satan.
The Bible doesn't specifically say that. Arguably, the unforgivable sin is to be denying the Holy Spirit's clear testimony to who Jesus is.
 

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The Bible doesn't specifically say that. Arguably, the unforgivable sin is to be denying the Holy Spirit's clear testimony to who Jesus is.
In fact, the bible does not state explicitly what the unpardonable sin is, only the it is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Does not give specific examples on what would constitute such blasphemy. I'm reasonably certain though that if someone is worried that they committed such a sin then they probably didn't.
 

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Mark 3:30 . .They were saying: "He has an evil spirit."

The Scribes and Pharisees were highly respected in their communities. No
doubt quite a few people believed them as they went about insinuating that
Jesus was a sorcerer.

You know, I can almost forgive highly respected entertainers and athletes
stooping to slander in the political world, but it is nigh unto impossible for
me to forgive spiritual big wigs for talking advantage of the public's trust in
the world of religion.
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Edify

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Is unbelief the unpardonable sin?




Unbelief in The Power of The Holy Spirit Is Unforgivable. The role of the Holy Spirit is to convict the believer of sin. If a person denies the power of the Holy Spirit, then there is no power that can bring a person to repentance.May 8, 2022
This is incorrect. Unbelief is NOT the unpardonable sin, no matter how many say so.
Mocking or accusing the work of the Holy Spirit to be of Satan is the unpardonable sin. One must do so KNOWINGLY.

1 Timothy 1:13
New American Standard Bible
even though I was previously a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because
I acted ignorantly in unbelief;
 

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If you blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by denying his work when Jesus was alive (the Son of God) you will be in the lake of fire. Also I suppose if you ever wanted to just stop trying you could do this and just quit.
Can you give examples of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, please?
 

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Mark 3:28“Truly I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons and daughters of men, and whatever blasphemies they commit; 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30because they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”


Strong's Concordance
blasphémeó: to slander, hence to speak lightly or profanely of sacred things
Original Word: βλασφημέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: blasphémeó
Phonetic Spelling: (blas-fay-meh'-o)
Definition: to slander, to speak lightly or profanely of sacred things

Usage: I speak evil against, blaspheme, use abusive or scurrilous language about (God or men).

Nothing about unbelief here.
 

CS1

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Can you give examples of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, please?
then only one is the context of Jesus to the Pharisees.

when they said, Jesus cast out the devil by the devil's power. The context of Jesus' words is admonishment because he did not say YOU have blasphemed the Holy Spirit. The Pharisees were acting Jesus, not knowing it was also the Holy Spirit; therefore, Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a sin of knowledge.

The question I think should be asked is whether you have committed this sin? Many who have, after speaking to them, found peace because they did not, in fact, do it.
 

Lamar

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then only one is the context of Jesus to the Pharisees.

when they said, Jesus cast out the devil by the devil's power. The context of Jesus' words is admonishment because he did not say YOU have blasphemed the Holy Spirit. The Pharisees were acting Jesus, not knowing it was also the Holy Spirit; therefore, Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a sin of knowledge.

The question I think should be asked is whether you have committed this sin? Many who have, after speaking to them, found peace because they did not, in fact, do it.
By far the most common example of this modern day slander is falsely claiming supernatural abilities in the name of the Holy Spirit.

Labeling glossolalia as from the Holy Spirit certainly meets that standard. It is the condemnation that haunts the modern day Pentecostal Movement.
 

CS1

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By far the most common example of this modern day slander is falsely claiming supernatural abilities in the name of the Holy Spirit.

Labeling glossolalia as from the Holy Spirit certainly meets that standard. It is the condemnation that haunts the modern day Pentecostal Movement.

Your bias is well noted. And still not Biblically contextual to Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are still for today, and all the gifts of the church are abused none more than the Gift of Pastor. Error in their use does not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. It is an error that must be corrected, as Paul said in 1cor chapters 12 through 14. In that chapter, the Gifts of the Holy Spirit were active and not done away with.
 

Lamar

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Your bias is well noted.
As is your willful blindness,
And still not Biblically contextual to Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Profane claims of the Holy Spirit granting supernatural abilities are most certainly Biblically contextual. All Pentecostals are bearing false witness with their claims of Holy Spirit manifestations. You don't want it to be blasphemy because you are clearly guilty of this sin.
The gifts of the Holy Spirit are still for today, and all the gifts of the church are abused none more than the Gift of Pastor.
If the physical supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit were for today it would simply be used and not falsely claimed by the Pentecostal movement.
Error in their use does not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. It is an error that must be corrected, as Paul said in 1cor chapters 12 through 14.
The Pentecostal Movement is not using or misusing the Holy Spirit but slandering the Holy Spirit. Their absurd claims are contemptuous. Their glossolalia is a shameful mockery of the truly miraculous gift of the 1st century.
In that chapter, the Gifts of the Holy Spirit were active and not done away with.
The supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit during the 1st century were real but they are no more active today then the miraculous gift of manna is today.

I strongly suggest you repent, grow a backbone and admit your charismatic emperor is naked.

If not you will be among the many crying out, "lord, lord did we not ...."
 

homwardbound

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This is incorrect. Unbelief is NOT the unpardonable sin, no matter how many say so.
Mocking or accusing the work of the Holy Spirit to be of Satan is the unpardonable sin. One must do so KNOWINGLY.


1 Timothy 1:13
New American Standard Bible
even though I was previously a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because
I acted ignorantly in unbelief;
You just said it yourself in that post, Paul did it ignorantly in "Unbelief"
Now he knew and chose to believe and stand in that belief, no more ignorantly
Now, who knows, how many people now know and still choose to not believe, God and follow God in this love and mercy of Son given them?
Rest my case , agreed with those that do not know ignorantly, yet I am confident God will reveal it to them
I am not Qualified, God is, thank you

Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

No matter what anyone else does or does not do, God knows each person and me I am not qualified to e er be saved by God.me alone now, thank you
 

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In fact, the bible does not state explicitly what the unpardonable sin is, only the it is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Does not give specific examples on what would constitute such blasphemy. I'm reasonably certain though that if someone is worried that they committed such a sin then they probably didn't.
I would say it differe tly.
I'm reasonably certain though that if someone is worried that they committed such a sin then they probably aren't. Jesus does not say that whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never thereafter have forgiveness.
 

PaulThomson

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This is incorrect. Unbelief is NOT the unpardonable sin, no matter how many say so.
Mocking or accusing the work of the Holy Spirit to be of Satan is the unpardonable sin. One must do so KNOWINGLY.

1 Timothy 1:13
New American Standard Bible
even though I was previously a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because
I acted ignorantly in unbelief;
You can't persuade by merely asserting something is so. Where does Jesus say that?
 

homwardbound

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I would say it differe tly.
I'm reasonably certain though that if someone is worried that they committed such a sin then they probably aren't. Jesus does not say that whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never thereafter have forgiveness.
I think you onto something
Once one is aware of the whole truth in risen Son Jesus knows Jesus is the Lamb that took away sin and is risen and choose not to be a part of that
Then the saying of our Lord saying go away, "I never knew you" using iniquities and are not glorying in them as their need fro God to lead
Thanks
I hear billy goats, butting I'm again
 

PaulThomson

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If you blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by denying his work when Jesus was alive (the Son of God) you will be in the lake of fire. Also I suppose if you ever wanted to just stop trying you could do this and just quit.
Maybe cite the biblical texts you are basing your opinion on.
 

PaulThomson

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When Jesus said this, does not necessarily pinpoint why He said this. Jesus may have been addressing only their specific behaviour here, as problematic regarding forgiveness. Or he could have been addressing some underlying attitude, that the Pharissees were expressing at this time as accusations of demonization, but which might be expressed at other times in other ways.
 

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When Jesus said this, does not necessarily pinpoint why He said this. Jesus may have been addressing only their specific behaviour here, as problematic regarding forgiveness. Or he could have been addressing some underlying attitude, that the Pharissees were expressing at this time as accusations of demonization, but which might be expressed at other times in other ways.
Perhaps, but context is often a guide toward the accurate understanding of what is being said and revealed by the Spirit.