Purgatory, Catholic Bible vs Protestant Bible

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Magenta

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Haven't seen this one before.
My notes say "started 2024-09-22 posted 23rd."

I am not sure if it is done yet LOL

I have designed two a day a few times recently and started three one day, so some days' designs are hard to keep track of.
 

Webers.Home

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Serial killer Ed Kemper committed a number of unspeakable crimes against
women, but nevertheless guys in his situation are not beyond redemption.

John 3:16-17 . . For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only
son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For
God did not send His son into the world to condemn the world, but to save
the world through him.

The Greek word translated "loved" rarely has anything to do with fondness.
It mostly pertains to benevolence, e.g. kindness, courtesy, lenience,
tolerance, generosity, charity, sympathy, compassion, etc. In point of fact
no doubt many of us disgust the supreme being and bear little, if any,
resemblance to the kind of folks with whom He prefers to associate.

Nevertheless, God was thinking of Ed when Jesus went to the cross.

Isa 53:6 . .We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to
his own way; and The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

So if he had a mind to, Ed could take advantage of Jesus' crucifixion to
protect himself from retribution. But he'd still be the same old Ed Kemper,
and in that state, Ed has some very serious issues with women that are
humanly impossible to cure.

Well; after watching some of his interviews on YouTube, I've no doubt that Ed
would be the first to tell you, quite candidly, that women in Heaven would be
in very grave danger with him there as his natural self. Well, as a matter of fact,
God is in the wings for guys in Ed's condition and He's well able to strip Ed's
negative issues off him like a dead skin so he can depart this life a different man.

Col 2:11-12 . . In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the
sinful nature-- not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with
the circumcision done by Christ.

Judaism has its circumcision, but Christianity has one that's much better
because it has the power to liberate people from human nature's rather
disagreeable inclinations, viz: whereas Judaism's circumcision is merely a
ritual, Christianity's is the hand of God.
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posthuman

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Yes, that is correct.
For example i don't know where i'm going.
I know i can die for God given here and now but i don't know where i'm going later.
The Kingdom of God for me is here and now. I don't think about the future.
Unless Jesus Christ tells me personally on a dream or a vision, i can never ever say "I am saved" because i will immediately go into judgment for billions of other people that live and have ever lived.
brother, we can believe Him; what He promises is as good as already accomplished
 
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In 2 Corinthians 5:8, the Apostle says that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Do you believe Jesus is in Purgatory?
7:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that
No, Jesus is in heaven at the right hand of the Father. Purgatory is where those that are not born again in their lifetime go. It is for purging their soul from unrighteousness.
 

Eli1

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brother, we can believe Him; what He promises is as good as already accomplished

Oh I believe in Him and I’d die for him, it’s just that I can’t say “I’m saved”. I can’t cross that line since I will commit judgment for billions.

Brother (you and others) I see that you and many others here love God with all your heart and this makes me happy.
You are at peace and joy because you feel safe with a promise of the future.

I am also at peace, joy and security but because I got to know Him now and I find His signature everywhere around me.
So short of me seeing Him in person, I am already in a version of Heaven.

I am happy for you and I hope that you are also happy when you see others who love God with all their heart, mind and soul.

So, we are both at the same destination but from two different paths.
Meaning I can’t think like you or another, and you can’t think like me or someone else.
We all have different understandings and levels of love and worship but what matters is the heart, and God will see us through in the end when we have to face Him.
Then we will know more.
This is how free-will works which even the Most High respects because He gave us a choice at The Garden.

God bless you and all of us now until eternity.
 

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Oh I believe in Him and I’d die for him, it’s just that I can’t say “I’m saved”. I can’t cross that line since I will commit judgment for billions.

Brother (you and others) I see that you and many others here love God with all your heart and this makes me happy.
You are at peace and joy because you feel safe with a promise of the future.

I am also at peace, joy and security but because I got to know Him now and I find His signature everywhere around me.
So short of me seeing Him in person, I am already in a version of Heaven.

I am happy for you and I hope that you are also happy when you see others who love God with all their heart, mind and soul.

So, we are both at the same destination but from two different paths.
Meaning I can’t think like you or another, and you can’t think like me or someone else.
We all have different understandings and levels of love and worship but what matters is the heart, and God will see us through in the end when we have to face Him.
Then we will know more.
This is how free-will works which even the Most High respects because He gave us a choice at The Garden.

God bless you and all of us now until eternity.
2 Corinthians 3:11 For the rest, brethren, rejoice, be perfect, take exhortation, be of one mind, have peace; and the God of peace and of love shall be with you.
 

Eli1

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2 Corinthians 3:11 For the rest, brethren, rejoice, be perfect, take exhortation, be of one mind, have peace; and the God of peace and of love shall be with you.
I bless you as a Protestant my brother.
I can also do the whole “take one line out of the Bible and build a church around it” but I’d rather not because it’s not fruitful and I don’t like to do a whole lot of philosophical discussions like the Protestants do.

Be at peace with your security and be grateful to God for giving you this path.
 

Cameron143

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No, Jesus is in heaven at the right hand of the Father. Purgatory is where those that are not born again in their lifetime go. It is for purging their soul from unrighteousness.
I understand that is the claim, but if for Christians being absent from the body means being with the Lord, are those in Purgatory unsaved?
 

TMS

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The Roman Empire was pagan and these pagan beliefs were incorporated into the Christian faith.
Baptised paganism.
It is easy to find many of the false teachings of catholicism have there roots in paganism.

These false teachings were incorporated into the Catholic bibles too.
 

Magenta

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Haven't seen this one before.
I did take a look at it to see if I thought it was done. It did seem so for the most part, but I had never been totally happy with something about her face shape... I thought the chin was weak, or the jaw-line too high on our left hand side, or something just did not sit right with me. I also noticed some other things, and after a couple of edits, including strengthening the nose which was also not very well defined, I am much happier with the panel... Postimages was doing maintenance recently but I am finally able to upload .:D


2 Corinthians 5:6-7; Romans 14:8b
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Cameron143

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I did take a look at it to see if I thought it was done. It did seem so for the most part, but I had never been totally happy with something about her face shape... I thought the chin was weak, or the jaw-line too high on our left hand side, or something just did not sit right with me. I also noticed some other things, and after a couple of edits, including strengthening the nose which was also not very well defined, I am much happier with the panel... Postimages was doing maintenance recently but I am finally able to upload .:D


2 Corinthians 5:6-7; Romans 14:8b
:)
I doubt many, if any,recognize the imperfections you do.
 

Webers.Home

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Purgatory is where those that are not born again in their lifetime go. It is for purging their soul
from unrighteousness.

The regeneration that Jesus spoke of in the 3rd chapter of John's gospel isn't
optional, rather, it's a requirement.

"Do not be amazed that I told you: "You must be born from above." (John 3:3)

Now, I'm not quite sure how that requirement effects underage children, but
I'm reasonably sure it's very bad news for people of age because to my
knowledge, regeneration isn't available to folks who pass on without it.

As for purging one's soul from unrighteousness: that's done by endowing
folks with divine nature per 2Pet 1:4 so that when they depart this life they
don't go to the next burdened with human nature. (Col 2:10-11)
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rrcn

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No, Jesus is in heaven at the right hand of the Father. Purgatory is where those that are not born again in their lifetime go. It is for purging their soul from unrighteousness.
No, Jesus is in heaven at the right hand of the Father. Purgatory is where those that are not born again in their lifetime go. It is for purging their soul from unrighteousness.
Purgatory was a fund raising scam from its inception. Today the financial portion seems to have been replaced by bingo but the spititual damage remains.