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Thats right only the Jews are numbered

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

If we are spiritually Israel. then aren't we also spiritual? spiritually Jews. In-Woodley. in the spirit in our hearts.

Please brothers and sisters. Please keep the conversation kind and loving as I can't take the stress. Love you all very. much. God bless.

CONSIDER what I put in Post #19 of an old thread:

https://christianchat.com/threads/w...heavenly-places-in-christ.195388/post-4400472

It concerns Paul's OUTLINE in Romans; and how he alternates between speaking of Jews / Gentiles (leading up to 3:21).

This will aid the reader in grasping just what Paul is expressing in 2:29 (your verse ^ ).



I can try to answer anything that isn't clear, regarding that post. But note especially what I put under the heading of "--Romans 2:17 - 3:20" (where verse 2:29 fits under)

Thank you but no thank you. I don't need your interpretation on this, as I have the Holy Ghost. I think that's where a lot of people go wrong. Letting other people interpretate scripture for them, with their twist. Not that you're twisted anything. I'm just saying.we just should trust the Holy Ghost these days, as we live in the time of the end. And it says many shall be deceived. So thank you. But no, thank you. I can read and I have the Holy Ghost..

^ "... he is a Jew which IS ONE [a Jew] INWARDLY..."


[in the SECTION of Paul's OUTLINE, WHERE he is covering the Subject of "Jews"]


... says NOTHING about Gentiles





(supposedly becoming Jews, once saved. No.)






He's talking about the "faith-filled Jews" [ones] out of Jews as a whole. (Not all of them have faith.)





To "READ INTO" that verse, anything regarding "Gentiles" (or Gentiles who've come to faith), is to misunderstand Paul's point in this section (which is covering "Jews") of his overall outline.




I realize that many people out there teach (and/or repeat) it the way you are suggesting, of this verse.

I'm just asking you to CONSIDER that they might be misunderstanding what Paul is conveying in 2:29 (which is nothing about Gentiles [as believers, BECOMING "Jews"], in this verse)... because they've not grasped his overall "outline" in chpts 1-3 (how he has "structured" his argument).

That's your interpretation.

The subject is the heart and the spirit . he was also talking to the church. Are you not circumced in heart? Are we not The people of God? Have we not been grafted in. Are we not spiritually Israel? His people? So what's so difficult about being.called a Jew in spirit. Why does that offend so much? I don't think it's misunderstanding what Paul said. I think you're making it misunderstand. But why? what's the motivation? If you're a saved Jew. or if you are not a Jew and saved, we are all one people. God people. spiritually Israel. Grafted in to an olive tree. How can we not be Jews by faith? If we are grafted into the same tree.

^ Hi again, BOY ,

As you read through the first three chapters of Romans, do you see where sometimes Paul speaks of "Gentiles" and sometimes Paul speaks of "Jews" (and their "law" from the OT)?

What might help, is to take a couple of different colored highlighters or colored pencils and mark each place where Paul speaks of "Gentiles" (and its associated pronouns) and "Jews" [/"the law"] (and its associated pronouns), in chpts 1-3;

That would be a good start to begin discerning Paul's OUTLINE in chpts 1-3 (concerning EACH of these, where Paul speaks of them)... which LEADS UP TO his saying, in chpt 3, "FOR ALL [Jews AND Gentiles] have sinned and come short of the glory of God"








For example, what is Paul talking about in 2:17, where he says, "Behold, thou art called a Jew, and resteth in the law, and make thy boast of God..." (As you see it, is Paul addressing a "GENTILE" here in this verse[?], who, elsewhere [in 2:14], Paul says of the Gentiles, "which HAVE NOT the law..."; so even within the space of 3 verses Paul is addressing DISTINCT things, see)

I'd like to reply to this one as you've. done such a lovely job presenting it. Ideally. this should be right. but we still have male and female. We still have slave to one thing or another. But ideally, that should be right, maybe. when we get our new bodies. when Jesus comes back, it will be like that. But it's still not like that now. But we can wish. God bless you for making such an effort on your post. It's lovely.

^ P.S. to my last post

[BTW, this exercise of using two different-colored highlighters (to highlight "Jews/Israel" or "Gentiles" [and the associated pronouns, for each of them]) also is beneficial in / throughout CHPTS 9-11... which is another section oft misconstrued ]

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TheDivineWatermark You're still telling me how to read the Bible After all that. amazing.

No, I am asking you a direct question.

Do you see anywhere in Romans 1-3 (three chapters) where Paul speaks of "JEWS/JEW" (and their "LAW") and "GENTILES/GENTILE" (which he says "HAVE NOT THE LAW"), and do you think they MEAN THE SAME THING?

It's a simple question.

For the readers who are INTERESTED (I understand not all members will be ), for Romans 9-11 ^ (and the point I make above, in the quote box here), see my Post #371 - https://christianchat.com/threads/when-did-will-jesus-open-the-first-seal-in-rev-6-and-what-does-it-represent.198648/post-4550216











[Calvinists and Arminianists BOTH come to false conclusions, based on how they each read [mis-read] Romans 9-11]

So according to you, there's two different rules and two different Christians. a Jew can be a Jew by faith The circumcision of the heart. and can be a Jew by faith. But other Christians can't be. That's two different rules for Christians. One rule for one Christian and another rule for another Christian. No, that can't be right.. We are all one people. all Christians are the same with the same rules.

Thank you! Yes, some things, perhaps a great many, are paradoxical. For instance, we
are seated with Him in the heavenly realms. Thank you also for all your lovely posts...


Ephesians 2:4-7 ~ Because of His great love for us, God, Who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

Netanyahu will not be the antichrist because he does not fit that role.

The Bible says that the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts the world down.

10 horns come from them which is in the future the world divided into 10 sections with a leader in each section.

And the little horn, antichrist, comes from the 10 horns who come from the Roman Empire.

Which the 10 horns shall devour the earth, break it in pieces, and stamp upon the residue of it.

Which they will do it by way of the new age movement which is a Caucasian led plan which the United Nations supports new age organizations.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The new age movement which interprets the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are evolving to be spiritual, and there is no God.

The time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to their own lusts.

Their perspective of reality is different now and they interpret the Bible according to that.

The plan is to change the current belief system of the world to the new age belief system.

There are people in the Science community saying the Bible is true and we do not cease to exist after death.

They say modern Science is giving the correct interpretation of the Bible and the Christians are interpreting it wrong.

They point out the things they interpret wrong about the Bible and Jesus' teachings.

They will do this for a while to reach the people of the world in hopes they will believe the new age christianity is the correct interpretation of the Bible.

When they do it long enough then the New Age Christ will negotiate peace in the Middle East resulting in a 7 years peace treaty and he will push the agenda of the new age christianity which he will think to change times and laws.

Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The antichrist will come from the people who overthrew Jerusalem which is the Roman Empire which at that time will be the Europeans, Caucasians in unison.

The 7 years peace treaty between Israel and Arabs will be a peace treaty for the world for the nations divided themselves choosing sides.

But is all a set up for they made sure they had leaders in all the nations governments that wanted a one world government.

WW1, League of Nations, WW2, United Nations, a set up to get the nations governments to start cooperating for peace on earth.

The Ukraine war a set up designed to get the people of the world to accept a one world government.

When the beast kingdom is referred to as Babylon it means in spirit which the Bible says Babylon will never have physical dominion again but her ways are still on earth.

Which she represents human religion, the occult, and the kingdom of man which is what the beast kingdom is all about.

The beast has 10 horns which is the physical dominion which come from the Roman Empire which they sucked the world in to their plan the new age christianity.

Since the Roman Empire has the dominion the New Age Christ, antichrist, little horn, man of sin, and general all purpose idiot will be Caucasian.

No thank you for all your loving posts. They're beautiful. Love is the backbone to everything we do and we can't go wrong.

Thank you I love this post. It's just inspiring. Calling it doctrine of Devils. when it's not even doctrine is just my thoughts and my feelings and speaking about them. It would be a terrible day when we can't share our thoughts and feelings with our brothers and sisters. And then having a Christian? calling it doctrine of Devils. How embarrassing. And here was I thinking that Christians are supposed to be smarter, and sharper, and quicker in spirit, than anybody else. Because we have the Holy Spirit. It's very early days to call out the Antichrist. but I'm calling it anyway. Netanyahu. and that little man with a yellow badge. Christian Prophet as the false prophet. That's my feeling that's my thoughts. and I'm allowed to have them. I'm calling it too early. Perhaps. but we'll see. Now you can't call that the doctrine of Devils because it's not doctrines. It's just my thoughts. Just my inspiration And yes, he does fit the criteria. Just doesn't fit your criteria.