The word of God is not a secret code that needs unlocked.

Those were some mighty fine and respected names you associated with textural criticism.

Looks like the devil has gotten a hold of the KJV Only group with textural criticism derangement syndrome.

Sad to say.... It's beginning to look more and more like that is the case.


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None of that is relevant to the topic at hand. You made the accusation that the modern Bibles are the new kids on the block, as though that is some terrible thing. I countered that the KJV was once the new kid. Instead of acknowledging that and retracting your accusatory remark, you have attempted to change the subject three times now.

It ain't gonna fly.

I am saying that a Christian who doubts or does not know where God’s precise and perfect words are is like an agnostic who doubts the existence of God. You do not know where all the words of God are; I do. .

But if you prefer some wiggle room on what God said, then that is simply your belief or choice (Which is liberal).

No. Your nonresponses are not going to fly. Go back and look at the evidences that are staring you in the face in regard to how the Modern Bible Movement today is still the Westcott and Hort Movement.

Also, you are the new kids on the block because 413 years of the KJV does not compare to 143 years of the W/H Movement, which did not really ramp up until the 1960s and 1970s (Which is 64 or 54 years away from our present day).


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Actually, many Christians have fell away from the faith when they learned of the false Science of Textual Criticism in Bible colleges.

The Bible is truth, and it gives us Theology.

The Spirit is given to those who obey Him (Acts 5:32).

What most everyone is not understanding is that the KJV is sufficient to relay God's main messages, which can only be understood by those selected by the Father to receive His Holy Spirit. With the KJV, scripture fits together nicely so that the message is clear and consistent and easy to work with when doing research. It seems to me that with the KJV God is involved in its endurance and even though it is not perfect, it is sufficient. God's message to mankind through the ages is directed by Him.

I am saying that a Christian who doubts or does not know where God’s precise and perfect words are is like an agnostic who doubts the existence of God. You do not know where all the words of God are; I do.

What most everyone is not understanding is that the KJV is sufficient to relay God's main messages, which can only be understood by those selected by the Father to receive His Holy Spirit. With the KJV, scripture fits together nicely so that the message is clear and consistent and easy to work with when doing research. It seems to me that with the KJV God is involved in its endurance and even though it is not perfect, it is sufficient. God's message to mankind through the ages is directed by Him.

What most everyone is not understanding is that the KJV is sufficient to relay God's main messages, which can only be understood by those selected by the Father to receive His Holy Spirit.

Did Martin Luther start his reformation using the KJV?

how much are two sparrows sold for?

Agreed -"false Science of Textual Criticism" IS "Theology" in it's academic development.

But the "Theology" that we generate (by human wisdom as mentioned above) may be as false as a $3 bill

The Holy Spirit INDWELLS everybody who has been Born Again by Him.

Since the KJV DIDN'T COME ALONG UNTIL 1611, and the Douay-Rhiems was 1582, Martin Luther, who died in 1546 wouldn't have known about either version.

Luther produced his own translation in German from the Latin Vulgate - introduced aroound 400 a.d.

As you know, Matthew 10:29 provides the answer to the question you asked. However, I can't help but feel this is just a lead-in to attack the King James Bible.

In contrast, Modern Bibles have introduced so many heretical changes …

Just as an atheist attacks the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Bible agnostic attacks the English Bible that has faithfully guided English-speaking Christians for over four centuries—the KJV.

As you know, Matthew 10:29 provides the answer to the question you asked. However, I can't help but feel this is just a lead-in to attack the King James Bible. Yes, the KJV does occasionally employ dynamic equivalence to convey clarity to the reader rather than expecting them to navigate foreign currency or cultural references on their own. In contrast, Modern Bibles have introduced so many heretical changes that any true seeker of truth should feel disturbed. Just as an atheist attacks the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Bible agnostic attacks the English Bible that has faithfully guided English-speaking Christians for over four centuries—the KJV.

Yet, while you may be groaning in your spirit in disgust at the idea of God preserving His Word in 1600s English, the Bible says: "God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise" (1 Corinthians 1:27). One either believes in God's promises, that His Word is pure and perfect (Psalms 12:6-7), or one does not believe those promises. Remember, faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God (Romans 10:17). This refers to hearing Scripture; that’s how you gain faith. But if your Bible has errors, or you believe God speaks through a sea of conflicting Bibles, you risk entering into confusion, making either yourself or the scholar the authority.

But you are straining at gnats, focusing on supposed little problems, as you swallow doctrinal camels. Consider these significant doctrinal changes in Modern Bibles:

1. Direct References to the Trinity Removed: Clear references to the Trinity are missing in Modern Bibles, including the Comma in 1 John 5:7, which explicitly states, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." The term "Godhead" is omitted in Modern Bibles, while it appears in the KJV. Although the Greek words underlying “Godhead”—theion in Acts 17:29, theiotēs in Romans 1:20, and theotēs in Colossians 2:9—primarily convey the idea of "divine nature" or "deity," the Cappadocian Fathers in the 4th century emphasized that this divine nature is most fully realized within the context of the Trinity. Much like the word "love," which can refer to a feeling of deep affection, the term reaches its highest and truest meaning when it involves a person laying down their life for others, as Jesus Christ did on the cross. Similarly, the term "Godhead" is fully expressed when understood as referring to God’s triune nature. Removing these direct references to the Trinity only waters down this beautiful truth about the Lord our God in Scripture.
2. Abortion Justified: Certain Modern Bibles, such as the CEV and GNT, in Luke 1:15 state that John the Baptist would be filled with the Holy Spirit from birth rather than from his mother’s womb, as the KJV says. This subtle change implies that life does not begin until birth, which could potentially lead readers to justify abortion by implying that the unborn child is not yet considered alive in God’s sight. In contrast, the KJV preserves the message that John was called and filled with the Holy Spirit even in the womb, underscoring the value of life before birth.
3. Characteristics of God's Word Altered: Modern translations adjust key verses that communicate the nature and attributes of God’s Word, often aligning them with the subjective perspectives of textual critics. For example, Psalms 12:6-7 in the KJV states, "The words of the Lord are pure words...Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever," indicating the preservation of God's words. Modern versions, however, sometimes reinterpret this to refer to God's preservation of people rather than His words. Similarly, Psalms 138:2 and 2 Corinthians 2:17 in the KJV emphasize the Word’s perfection and integrity, while Modern Bibles sometimes adjust the language in ways that lessen this focus. These changes raise questions about the intentions behind the rewording, as they affect the clarity of God’s promise to preserve His Word.
4. Repentance for Sinners Inconsistent: Modern Bibles create inconsistency by stating in Luke 5:32 that Jesus calls sinners to repentance, while in Matthew 9:13 and Mark 2:17, He is said to call sinners with no mention of repentance. The NASB 2020 even goes so far as to imply that Jesus does not call sinners to repentance at all, potentially weakening the focus on repentance as a crucial step in turning to God. In the KJV, the call to repentance is a clear and unifying theme, underscoring the importance of this doctrine in the life of a believer.
5. Omission of Apostolic Authority on Circumcision: In Acts 15:24, Modern Bibles omit the phrase “subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment.” This omission is significant, as it leaves out the apostles’ clarification that Gentile believers were not required to follow Jewish customs, such as circumcision, to be saved. By removing this direct statement, Modern Bibles potentially obscure the apostles’ intent and undermine the clarity with which they established Christian liberty from the Law of Moses for Gentile converts.

If your Bible contains these kinds of changes, it risks weakening key doctrines, leading to confusion, and making the reader dependent on scholars for interpretation. Stand firm on God’s promises and rely on His pure Word, instead. Do not be duped by the Scribes of our day.



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supposed little problems,