Would Christ Vote?

but you say overthrow them and put ones that tickle your ears into power.

your only appeal is to emotion and a tacit assumption that the church should choose and appoint the worldly government

moreover the record of history shows that the church grows and becomes stronger in its faith when it is persecuted,

name one who isn't.

heck name any human being, apart from Jesus Christ, who isn't.

which planet do you live on, btw?

silly little friend.

i do not depend on human regulations to 'protect me'

how long have you been a Christian?
do you know much about this Way?

your argument for not voting?

the argument is that Christ would not - in fact did not - vote.

see thread title.

When was He given the opportunity? They didn't have elections as we know them in ancient Rome so your argument is rather nonsensical.

He is God and could have chosen to be born as a man at any time in any place.

if God wanted to vote, He would have come to earth in a Greek city state, or given Israel a law that required them to vote for priests or something.

He did not.
instead He chose omnisciently and omnipotently to pitch His tent among us as a man in an oppressed, conquered people, and not raise a finger or His voice against the occupying nation.

so it is clear. God did not want the opportunity to vote, so He eschewed taking it.

Sure mate, it was the right time simply because He didn't want to vote.

No, if voting was something He intended to do, He would have, and He didn't.

the facts show voting was not necessary, not that He purposefully chose to avoid having the option of voting.
being God He could have created the opportunity for Himself, and He did not. that by itself shows He would not vote even without all the evidence of the government He gave Israel and the Kingdom He reigns over.

even in our hearts we don't 'vote' Him into Lordship: we don't give Him authority but submit to the authority He has by virtue of His identity.

He is God and could have chosen to be born as a man at any time in any place.

if God wanted to vote, He would have come to earth in something like a Greek city state, where there was actual democracy, or He would have given Israel a law that required them to vote for priests or something.

He did not.

instead He chose omnisciently and omnipotently to pitch His tent among us as a man in an oppressed, conquered people, and not raise a finger or even His voice against the occupying nation,
and the government He commanded Israel to have did not include voting.

so it is clear. God did not want the opportunity to vote, so He eschewed taking it. He instead gave us the example of living meekly and humbly, accepting the government that exists without trying to influence it.

that's just the witness of scripture.
interpret or ignore it however you wish.

He never sent an email, text, phone call or made an online post so best we all stop communicating electronically as well. Afterall, if He wanted to do any of those things, He would have come at a different time but He purposefully chose to avoid those options.

the thread topic is whether Christ would vote. clearly the answer is no.

i regret that you are upset with this and that you single me out as the object of your displeasure, because i have told the truth about this matter.

Maybe He chose to come to earth for the recent election as the HS within believer and inspired millions of Christians to vote for the policies they think best reflect NT values.

It's an argument from silence which is no argument at all.

maybe you haven't been paying attention, so i'll repeat what both i and others have already put,

if you look at the first two kings of Israel, it is very clear that when the people chose a king for themselves by voting, it was blasphemy and adultry, forsaking God. Saul.
but the King through whom Christ chose to be born in lineage, whose heart was after God's own heart, was explicity chosen contrary to the 'vote' of man and 100% by the will and power of God.

you are entirely mistaken to say i have been arguing from silence. the witness of scripture is that the will of man ((voting)) is evil, and the will of God is good. even Matthias who was among two chosen by vote and then for whom lots were cast ((an explicit appeal to God to decide instead of human votes)), was completely forgotten by history, and Paul, who was chosen by God against the popular opinion ((vote)) of man, was given great honor by God as apostle.

the witness of scripture is 100% corroborative that Christ would not vote. Christ would appoint, and He did. He does not pool His 'opinion' with men, as though it had equal weight, and let the majority of wicked humankind decide what shall be called true or have preeminence

You are comparing apples with oranges. Maybe you have not been paying attention because I have repeated this many times.

USA (or any other nation running on democratic principles) is not a nation created and chosen by God like Israel nor is it an organism created and chosen by God like the Church. Israel was meant to be a theocracy, unlike the surrounding nations and we don't vote for our leaders in the Church, they are appointed by God.

When the nations of the world become Christ's nations on His return (Rev.11:15), we will not need to vote but until then, the nations are exercising their God given power in order to reveal the type of nation they are, for judgement awaits.

we don't vote for our leaders in the Church, they are appointed by God.

the nations are exercising their God given power in order to reveal the type of nation they are

Sure mate, it was the right time simply because He didn't want to vote.

which is why the US has elected the liar.
because we are an evil, vain country that despises the poor and the sojourner and gives gifts to the rich.

because you live in a pagan nation you should act like a pagan?

that's your argument that Christ God the King of kings would vote, instead of appoint?

even while you admit there is no such thing as voting in His Kingdom?


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