the Sabbath

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Aaron56

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You guys can't seem to get it through your heads that no law can condemn any dead person. We in Christ are dead to the law. The holy spirit can use the law to convince a person of sin, but it never condemns; condemnation comes from the devil. Maybe you feel condemned by the law because you are not walking in the spirit
Yes!

If the law can condemn you, you ares till alive to the law. That is why Paul urged believers:

"For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord."
 
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Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
 
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Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
That's referring to the 7th day of creation of heaven and earth. not the weekly sabbath. They are not the same thing. God ceased from his works on that creation on the 7th day forever, but he's not resting on any day for his work on the creation of the new heavens and earth.
 

Aaron56

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What does God do on the Sabbath that is unique from all other days, like this coming Sabbath, not on the 7th day after creation?
 
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vassal

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anout the sabbath rest;

The idea of an "everyday Sabbath rest" stems from a misunderstanding of Scripture and the blending of spiritual principles with literal commandments. The Bible clearly defines the Sabbath as a specific day. In Exodus 20:8-11 (NKJV), God commands: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy... the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God." This is rooted in creation, as seen in Genesis 2:2-3 (NKJV): "And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested... Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it." This shows the Sabbath as a particular day sanctified by God, not an abstract or symbolic concept.

Jesus Himself observed the Sabbath, as recorded in Luke 4:16 (NKJV): "As His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day." He also clarified its purpose, saying in Mark 2:27 (NKJV): "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." This emphasizes that the Sabbath is a blessing for humanity, meant for physical rest and spiritual renewal.

The false idea that "every day is a Sabbath rest" often comes from spiritualizing the concept of rest and misunderstanding the role of the Sabbath under the new covenant. While Scripture encourages trusting God and finding spiritual rest in Him, this does not replace the literal observance of the Sabbath. In Matthew 5:17-18 (NKJV), Jesus said: "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law... I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." Fulfillment does not abolish the commandment but confirms its purpose.

Some people also claim the Sabbath was only ceremonial and no longer applies, but this contradicts the commandment’s foundation in creation, long before the ceremonial laws were given. The rhythm of six days of work followed by one day of rest is a divine principle, not a human invention, and cannot be generalized to all days without nullifying its meaning.

The notion of an everyday Sabbath is more about convenience and misunderstanding than biblical truth. Observing the seventh-day Sabbath, as commanded by God, is a distinct act of obedience and acknowledgment of His authority and creation. It is not interchangeable with general worship or daily spiritual devotion.

Peace
 

Cameron143

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anout the sabbath rest;

The idea of an "everyday Sabbath rest" stems from a misunderstanding of Scripture and the blending of spiritual principles with literal commandments. The Bible clearly defines the Sabbath as a specific day. In Exodus 20:8-11 (NKJV), God commands: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy... the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God." This is rooted in creation, as seen in Genesis 2:2-3 (NKJV): "And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested... Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it." This shows the Sabbath as a particular day sanctified by God, not an abstract or symbolic concept.

Jesus Himself observed the Sabbath, as recorded in Luke 4:16 (NKJV): "As His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day." He also clarified its purpose, saying in Mark 2:27 (NKJV): "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." This emphasizes that the Sabbath is a blessing for humanity, meant for physical rest and spiritual renewal.

The false idea that "every day is a Sabbath rest" often comes from spiritualizing the concept of rest and misunderstanding the role of the Sabbath under the new covenant. While Scripture encourages trusting God and finding spiritual rest in Him, this does not replace the literal observance of the Sabbath. In Matthew 5:17-18 (NKJV), Jesus said: "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law... I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." Fulfillment does not abolish the commandment but confirms its purpose.

Some people also claim the Sabbath was only ceremonial and no longer applies, but this contradicts the commandment’s foundation in creation, long before the ceremonial laws were given. The rhythm of six days of work followed by one day of rest is a divine principle, not a human invention, and cannot be generalized to all days without nullifying its meaning.

The notion of an everyday Sabbath is more about convenience and misunderstanding than biblical truth. Observing the seventh-day Sabbath, as commanded by God, is a distinct act of obedience and acknowledgment of His authority and creation. It is not interchangeable with general worship or daily spiritual devotion.

Peace
The Sabbath is not a day. It is a rest. It was originally ordained to be remembered in a particular day. As long as the Sabbath is considered a day, it will never be properly observed.
 

vassal

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The Sabbath is not a day. It is a rest. It was originally ordained to be remembered in a particular day. As long as the Sabbath is considered a day, it will never be properly observed.
God had a different opinion from you cameron. from sundown to sundown the seventh ""day "" is the sabbath that GOD asks us to oberve;

Exo 20:8-11
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work,
but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates.
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.""

Peace
 

Cameron143

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God had a different opinion from you cameron. from sundown to sundown the seventh ""day "" is the sabbath that GOD asks us to oberve;

Exo 20:8-11
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work,
but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates.
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.""

Peace
Where you see Sabbath, substitute rest and you got it.
 
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It is actually quite relevant. Romans 2:14-15 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;

Before God gave the law to the Jews, Gentiles already had Hammurabi's code, Code of Lipit-Ishtar, Ur-Nammu code, Laws of Eshnunna. True to what the God says in these verses of Romans that the gentiles became a law unto themselves because some of God laws were already written on gentile hearts.

While these man made codes were in no way the perfect law of God they did contain things that are in the law. Rome is an example of how God used ungodly Rome to keep his law. The Punic wars Rome faced off with Carthage. Rome had a problem as gentiles with child sacrifice and used this amongst other reasons to declare war on Carthage in the Senate.

Carthage worshipped Baal Hammon or Baal Ammon. With the god of Ammon being Molech. God used ungodly Rome and their repulsion to bring an end to this lawless practice. When the Apostles met they found that the gentiles needed to only follow don't eat blood, things that are strangled, and abstain from adultery'. I would find that they only had to touch on that because living under gentiles they were well aware of what laws of God were already written on the hearts of gentiles.

I Corinthians amongst other things is Paul giving commandments. Read the whole book and you will see that God is giving commandments through Paul. Which Paul boldly says that fornication such as was found in the church was not even found amongst the gentiles in chapter 5. Paul gives commandments on civil cases such that we are not sue each other in court. Rules on marriage, our body is the temple of God amongst others.

When God parted peoples at the tower of Babel. Gentiles went and formed nations and codified laws that were written on their heart. Some of which were Godly and just and they became a law unto themselves as we find that they already had some of the vary selfsame laws God gave.

When God parted the peoples and they became nations. God in the next chapter he chose Abraham to make his personal nation one that would bear his name. He chose a people that were of no esteem, they were stranger's, peculiar, no people at all. He chose this to be his kingdom.

He gave laws unto his kingdom making it a contract between him and them. They failed, God came to the world and walked amongst us in the flesh and he made a new contract one where he would take alien's and strangers, peculiar people of no esteem and he would make them his kingdom. In the old contract it was made between God and man and God made the highest that man could give the governing law he was to love God with all he was and love his fellow man as himself. The new contract is made between God and God and the governing is the absolute highest because we are to love as God does.

So it is very relevant that he is a gentile and he keeps already those laws of God that were written on his gentile heart and the new ones that he and all of us continue to learn so we can love like God. Which God made possible because all things are possible with Christ and God indwelt in us. Which in the end we are neither gentiles or Jews we are all in Christ.
 

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The answer is obvious.

Jesus was born under the law and had to obey all the law.

The context in the gospels states that Jesus was a Jew and born under the law.

The context also tells us that Jesus was only sent to the Jews.

The Gentiles are the dogs that sit at the masters table.

The Gentiles are not under the law but only under the four commandments in Acts 15.

That is the plain reading of the text in the context of each letter.

Your interpretation is not the literal; the plain reading of the text.
 

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The answer is obvious.

Jesus was born under the law and had to obey all the law.

The context in the gospels states that Jesus was a Jew and born under the law.

The context also tells us that Jesus was only sent to the Jews.

The Gentiles are the dogs that sit at the masters table.

The Gentiles are not under the law but only under the four commandments in Acts 15.

That is the plain reading of the text in the context of each letter.

Your interpretation is not the literal; the plain reading of the text.
You're ignoring the text where Jesus said he has other sheep not of this fold. That would be,Gentiles .

And many a gentile male is circumcised.