Question about the Trinity

I'm not looking for any examples. I want to know what the Father begetting the Son consists in. I know what a man begetting a son looks like and how it occurs. How does God beget a Son, and how does that occur?

Again the Eternal Generation of Jesus which has already been explained to you alongside scriptures, and it is also part of the trinity doctrine and the Athanasian Creed, so I will just give you a link to the basics of the doctrine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_generation_of_the_Son

You can't explain in your own words what begetting is when it comes to Jesus or tell me how it happened or its process, but you think you understand the Trinity. The fact is, we can use words that are biblical without understanding them completely.

No, I already did, in fact I did it twice. You not liking what I said doesn't mean I didn't say it lol.

You didn't explain anything. You simply kept repeating words without explaining.

No I have pretty thoroughly explained it twice in my own words in posts #35 and especially #38. Post #41 then is if you want it explained in other peoples' words as well as a brief history of the doctrine.

I understand the doctrine of the Trinity in terms of what the Bible says. But neither I, you, or anyone else fully understands that God is both One and 3. Neither can you explain what it looks like that Jesus is begotten. And you can't explain it because you don't know what it means. You don't know the process by which it occurred so you can't tell me about it. You can't explain how God communicates with God or how 3 beings are One. You can only say what the Bible says is true, and that by faith.

Well your assertion that the Athanasian Creed is imperfect or extra-biblical is incorrect. It is actually a perfect summary of the Bible as well as a perfect summary of the Christian religion. Hence why by the Creed you can identify the pernicion of any heresy and any pagan religion. Touching the trinity doctrine as is the topic, the whole chapter of John 1 is by far the go-to scripture in proving the trinity doctrine, the divinity of Jesus, the eternal generation of Jesus, and many other such correct doctrines. Rather than rendering the Athanasian Creed imperfect this episode, along with many other scriptures actually simply confirms that the Athanasian Creed is a perfect understanding of the trinity doctrine.

I provided Scriptural support for my opinion, but you did not for yours, so whose view do you think is more biblically based?

Re the Trinity, I prefer the following explanation:

The OT Shema (DT 6:4) teaches that God is one, and the NT also affirms that there is one God (EPH 4:6, 1TM 2:5). However, the NT teaches that God relates to believers in three ways simultaneously: as the Father, as the Son and as the Holy Spirit (1 x 1 x 1=1).

The Father/Parenthood of God is indicated in Jesus’ model prayer (MT 6:9), throughout the Gospel of John (3:35, 5:17-18, etc.), and in the epistles of Paul (RM 4:11, 8:15, PHP 2:11). God the Father and Christ’s Sonship are discussed in Hebrews 1:1-4. The Son of God also is mentioned by John (JN 1:14, 3:16, etc.) and by Paul (RM 1:4, GL 2:20, 1THS 1:10). The Holy Spirit is mentioned in three successive chapters in John (JN 14:26, 15:26, 16:13), frequently in the book of Acts (ACTS 1:5, 2:4, 9:17, 13:2, 19:2), and in many of Paul’s letters (RM 8:4-26, 1CR 6:19, EPH 4:30) as well as in some of the other epistles (2PT 1:21, JUDE 20).

It might be helpful to discern which aspect of the triune God is the subject of various biblical statements. These divine aspects or “persons” may be distinguished by role: God the Father as creator or initiator (GN 1:1), God the Son as Messiah or mediator (1TM 2:5), and God the Spirit as indweller (RM 5:5). For example, 1 John 4:7 says love comes from (is initiated by) God (the Father), Galatians 5:22 says that love is a fruit of the (indwelling) Spirit, and Ephesians 3:18 speaks of the (mediating) love of Christ (RM 5:8, EPH 2:18).

We can denote these distinctions by the use of three prepositions: God the Father is over all creation (EPH 4:6), God the Son is Immanuel or with humanity (MT 1:23), and the Holy Spirit is within all believers (EPH 1:13). A single passage that comes closest to indicating this distinction is Ephesians 3:14-19, in which Paul prays to the Father that through His Spirit of love Christ would dwell in believers’ hearts (also see 1CR 8:6).

When the Bible uses masculine words for God, it should be understood that only God the Son is human and had a sexual orientation while on earth. GN 1:26-27 states that both male and female were created in God’s image, referring not to androgyny but to personality, and Jesus said (in MT 22:30 & 19:11-12) that there is no marriage and thus no need for sexuality in heaven.

Actually, since the creation also manifests God (RM 1:20, cf. JN 1:1-3 & PS 33:6), in a sense God may be viewed as a “Quadity”. As Paul told the Athenians (ACTS 17:28), “In Him we live and move and have our being.” God as Creation is throughout physical reality (called “panentheism”). However, since this mode of revelation is impersonal, it has rightly been de-emphasized by most Christian denominations.

Lol literally in the post you quote I cite John 1. Pretty confident that John 1 is scripture and is also the primary backbone of the trinity doctrine. If you just want further scriptures, well sure there are very many. The baptism account of Jesus as found in Matthew 3:16-17 destroys the premise of the heresy of modalism and further confirms the Athanasian Creed. John 5:23-27 destroys the premise of the heresy of subordinationism and also confirms the Athanasian Creed.

Yes indeed, sorry. When I quickly scanned your post I was looking for a more specific notation, such as JN 1:1-18 and the ones you just included.

Yes, and I trust you agree that the A.C. would have been better if it had cited such Scripture at appropriate points in the statement.

No I will not agree to that. Anyone that has read the Bible in fullness and believes what is written is going to find that it is pretty obvious that the Athanasian Creed accurately describes Christianity, and topically, the trinity doctrine and why the trinity doctrine is the true theology of Christianity. Again remember why the Athanasian Creed was even formulated in the first place. It was made to summarize the Bible and define Christianity as a religion primarily. It was secondarily made and worded in such a way as to give all pagan religions and the most pernicious heresies no wiggle room at all to subvert Christianity. I'll refer back to my third post I think it was where you can understand the trinity doctrine by either reading the Athanasian Creed or by reading the entirety of the Bible, to which I'll add it's simply faster to read the Athanasian Creed, though you should really do both. God bless old saint Athanasius, though the whole world try to contend against him he prevailed over them all by and for the praise of Jesus.

The Athanasian Creed is most watertight in explaining the trinity doctrine. Since denial of any point of the Creed is clear indicator of a damnable heresy, the Athanasian Creed is actually quite complete and absolute in explaining the trinity doctrine. The wording of the Creed leaves wouldbe cults no room for their pernicion in either adding to or taking away from the trinity doctrine. Since the Athanasian Creed is a perfect summary of the Bible regarding the trinity doctrine it cannot be overthrown nor manipulated by man, but will only instead reveal the pernicion of a cult that makes the attempt and thus make them certify their own eternal damnation.

I have read the Bible through in about five different versions, but I guess the A.C. only a couple of times, since it is not as popular as the Nicene Creed.

One need not hold to the Athanasian creed at all to be saved. It's a man-made document, not Scripture. Your opinion about the creed is your own and does not impose any obligation on anyone else to accept or affirm it or any part of it.

Well your assertion that the Athanasian Creed is imperfect or extra-biblical is incorrect. It is actually a perfect summary of the Bible as well as a perfect summary of the Christian religion. Hence why by the Creed you can identify the pernicion of any heresy and any pagan religion. Touching the trinity doctrine as is the topic, the whole chapter of John 1 is by far the go-to scripture in proving the trinity doctrine, the divinity of Jesus, the eternal generation of Jesus, and many other such correct doctrines. Rather than rendering the Athanasian Creed imperfect this episode, along with many other scriptures actually simply confirms that the Athanasian Creed is a perfect understanding of the trinity doctrine.

Well the problem you will run into very quickly is that the Athanasian Creed is a complete summary of the scriptures and the Christian faith, so denial of any part of the contents of the Athanasian Creed is definitely going to get one sent to hellfire everlasting.

Hogwash and codswollop.