Charismatic dogma

It has come to my attention lately from some videos and from others testimonies that the charismatic movement is sweeping the nation but not in a good way giving a bad rep to those who experience the real thing or have themselves seen or heard of the real thing

People are hungry for a move of God and this is good we are starved of it you don't see real miracles very often anymore lots of fakes or decievers this is a very dangerous kind of movement as it is apparently easy to lead others astray and they who do this will recieve their reward by our Lord in due time for every lamb they lead to the slaughter.

But do not think that the things they practice or teach is all untrue some of them are real as I am sure many of you can testify but this is why we need discernment and an understanding of the word more than ever many who have seen the fakes have been damaged by it and it pains me to see this because God truly is a God of wonder but now how do we consider what is charismatic?

Is it just a term for the over zealous big named preachers or is it a legit group albeit probably a small group have you ever had a true move of God? If so would you give your testimony to encourage others it isn't all fake? after all these are the last days and we need to be both biblical sound and spiritually sound as well not one or the other

People are hungry for a move of God

What are some of the names of these preachers, just out of curiosity!

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

I wish Christians were hungry for righteousness

It has come to my attention lately from some videos and from others testimonies that the charismatic movement is sweeping the nation but not in a good way giving a bad rep to those who experience the real thing or have themselves seen or heard of the real thing

People are hungry for a move of God and this is good we are starved of it you don't see real miracles very often anymore lots of fakes or decievers this is a very dangerous kind of movement as it is apparently easy to lead others astray and they who do this will recieve their reward by our Lord in due time for every lamb they lead to the slaughter.

But do not think that the things they practice or teach is all untrue some of them are real as I am sure many of you can testify but this is why we need discernment and an understanding of the word more than ever many who have seen the fakes have been damaged by it and it pains me to see this because God truly is a God of wonder but now how do we consider what is charismatic?

Is it just a term for the over zealous big named preachers or is it a legit group albeit probably a small group have you ever had a true move of God? If so would you give your testimony to encourage others it isn't all fake? after all these are the last days and we need to be both biblical sound and spiritually sound as well not one or the other

To me it has nothing to do with real or fake. I haven't seen any difference between the obvious grifters and those who separate themselves and claim they have the real deal. It's all smoke and mirrors from both camps.

Discernment, hoping you read this all slowly, to hear from God over me or anyone else please thank you
(Hebrews 8:4
For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law

are we a mixed breed, under Law one day and the next under Grace? Hybrids!

Between Flesh nature and God's Spirit of truth is the discernment God Father gives to his kids to see and be content in it, whether it be good or bad whatever one sees. Those, as you are in truth God given you, you have the discernment to see the fake, fools gold. God tells you, inside for you to hear. It is up to you to listen or excuse it as I have done myself, excused it (No more) and got caught up in stuff that got the best of me here on this earth, wanting to be liked by others, was and is not good for me to be of that nature, and you already know, God speaks to each child of God's inside each personally, not just the messages in the Bible. God says, My Sheep know my voice. You know it, see to not go after others that look good and act good as if they got it over what you are given by God to you, which is, life everlasting even if go through more troubles as you already know you have brother. Thoughts are not always are own thoughts, Evil knows how to plant thought(s) it is up to us to listen to (Discern) them or not, trust God for the discernment of thought. see in trust to God to teach you what taking all thought captive is, to the same obedience as Christ! (2 Cor 10)
Emotions, Reality, what we see physically is temporal, Reality, what we do not see is eternal. God is not known today in the flesh as was in the day of his being here then, as Said in 2 Cor 5:16
We as people, want peace, serenity, don't we all want that? When we do not see it, it seems we want it, how deep does that go, to want it and have someone do it, since God is not here in the flesh anymore in his Son for us physically? Now as risen Spiritually in God Father's Spirit for us to be content and not have our emotions lead us. Rather follow truth of God in God's Spirit and Truth that we do not see physically anymore. Yet flesh itself, the evil nature wants to get others under its thumb. What better way, to do healings. To help others see themselves in their own flesh nature and then glory over those people as if they are real and are not, when anyone not getting each to go to God personally. Rather say, if you have anymore troubles come to me, I and God are One. Red flag!
I was told by a pastor once, that I was going to see the Bible as he saw it, I would be one with him. "Run Forest Run" came to mind, and I left that religion, that person I saw was wanting to be the way the truth and the new life for others. No thank you. That is discerning to see if that person or person's want to be the leaders in their flesh natures. Test these out, you will see, be a Solomon, trust Father in risen Son for the wisdom to discern truth over error.
God is the only one good, per Jesus in the flesh. Never claimed anyone to be good in the flesh, first birth. Was/is clear to me it is God's Spirit and Truth to lead each person personally in Love and Mercy to all. Yet God does not do this unless one turns to God Father willing in belief to God through risen Son only, to me at least. Then discerning begins in the child of God that God has accepted in his self through Son's done work for them to be in with them as Won too for you, free of charge ever.
Mixing my first birth of death to all flesh unto the Spirit of God is not good for my Soul.
No flesh nature can ever please God but Son's, and he is the only one, why?
He was born of Woman, not man is why! The Virgin birth in the lineage of King David, separates Son from everyone else. So he came here to do the Law in its entirety first (fulfill it), Did that then after willing death to save us all in his risen life, only those that turn to believe in this, that Son Jesus is risen for them, where the new life in Father's Spirit and Truth begins in each person that sees God as the only one that knows all truth over all error. That is exactly what Jesus as Son demonstrated to us all in his physical walk here, first, doing nothing saying nothing unless Father leads him, in the Holy Spirit today given us, once Father reveals this to you in humility not pride ever. Seeing, those in pride or guilt, these do not know yet. That is what Father desires to teach his kids as you are one of Father's kids period. Accepted forgiven and sealed to see it. As others try to put doubt in people make then guilty or prideful, that is so they can control others and use God insincerely, as many get trapped in that looking for peace and serenity
That had to get done first (His one time willing death), in order for new law to get put in place for you, me and the entire world of flesh people. (Hebrews 7:11-12)

Romans 7:6
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Loneliness is no more today how?
Father and Son will never leave us, never forsake us, do you believe that or do you have doubt getting placed in you from others speaking?
Just have a modicum of any doubt and you will not get established in God, which is what I see happening to you from others you are listening to.
Brother stand
You are Accepted, forgiven and sealed by God for you (Eph 1:6.7.13), no matter what! What?, how
Romans 8, nothing can separate us from God's Love for us all, done for all once at that cross this love of God given us everything needed for life and Godliness. That includes sin taken out of the way in Father's view for you, even if sin again it is done for you to let it go for God to take it away as is done for you and all others too in Son's done work only. Since, Jesus himself separated for us Sin and Death in Father's sight (not this world's) on that cross for us to stand in belief to it and not quit, even if in troubles presently or even might happen in future, and even to let go of all past sin, troubles too. in trust to God it is all gone as far as the east is from the west, in son as it is done God has taken it all away so fast. Faster than anyone can blink an eye lid, that is reality, that the flesh nature cannot see truthfully, has doubt that keeps it from ever getting established in truth.
See Col 1:21-23 stand therefore stand, never knowing how, just know someway, somehow Father God in risen Son Jesus will pull you through it all as has to this day so far, has Father not? If anyone doubts, God says, God will not establish you. (Isaiah 7:9) yet through Son has and will, therefore will you continue to stand in belief or will get work to do in your way or else attitudes of flesh nature, that has doubt always there present to continue to beset you?




Galatians 2:14
But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

Be you and give God's love to all in not being made what others think you should be, as is going on today in religions all over the world, that God has no part in, yet is claimed God has a part in, and does not.
The true tabernacle is God living in and through us unto all people 1 Cor 13:4-7, which God installs in us to do freely as Jesus did on that cross once for all.

Hebrews 3:4
For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.


Authorized (King James) Version

Hebrews 8:1-4
Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
No earth building is God's building yet man says yes it is, no it is not, thanks
go to Father and trust Father to reveal whatever it is you need to hear, you will hear it, might not be fast, yet continue, you will hear truth over error of flesh here on earth to this present day

The charismatic movement was sweeping back in the 1970s, but I was pleased when a couple of popular charismatic preachers in the Washington D.C. area clarified that the fruit of the Spirit (love, etc.) rather than miracles or glossalalia is the sign of faith in Christ and being Spirit-filled per Scripture.

it is true love and the fruits of the spirit are the most important but to discount miracles and divine acts of God is simply unbelief you won't see God move in amazing ways with that kind of attitude not saying you in particular but in this unbelieving generation rather

Because of all the fakes out there we live in an unbelieving generation and then if something does actually come about it is called satinic or from those old tactics all the fakes use it is really sad to see honestly

So you don't believe in miracles speaking in tongues laying of hands ect. because you haven't seen it? Isn't that the opposite of believing? you won't ever see if you don't believe

I am open to miracles but what I have experienced doesn’t make medicine or the laws of physics obsolete nor does it make God my genie My best answer to prayer was meeting and dating my future wife after praying to meet my soulmate. 🤓

It doesn't matter, believe what you want. I'm at peace with what I believe.

What do you believe in exactly? Do you think that unbelief is going to be enough? you are at peace at where you are at in your faith and that is the issue I mean for arguments sakes lets just say I was like you do you think my foot would have been healed by God?
Remember also blessed are those who believe without seeing that is exactly what faith is believing even though you have yet to see
Of course if you are at peace where you are at then that is your deal nut it saddens me seeing this your a victim of all the fakes out there was there not a time in your walk when you did believe?

Fortunately, you're not the one I have to answer to.

No I am not it is much worse to answer to Jesus with unbelief and a stationary poistion in faith, how do you seek a deeper relationship with him? Do you even do that? Do you know that hunger inside that burning yearning for the deeper waters with him? You study the bible that is great but anyone can do this heck atheists study it exhastively just to do combat with Christians but there is more to it than that there is more to God than what you see

No I am not it is much worse to answer to Jesus with unbelief and a stationary poistion in faith, how do you seek a deeper relationship with him? Do you even do that? Do you know that hunger inside that burning yearning for the deeper waters with him? You study the bible that is great but anyone can do this heck atheists study it exhastively just to do combat with Christians but there is more to it than that there is more to God than what you see

What are some of the names of these preachers, just out of curiosity!

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto