Help..the worship leader is crushing on me.

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Okay, I know its a weird title for this post..but its totally true. I started singing on the worship team 3 weeks ago. We have a new worship leader in the church and I have noticed the past couple of weeks, him starting to do things like "love" my photos on facebook, and constantly complimenting me, giving shout out's to me during the livestream for things like help him feel better(i gave some simple advice to fix his shoulder) and talking on the livestream about the movie night i put together and how much he enjoyed it. Tonight he kept telling me how annointed a team we are at worship and how he loves worshipping with me and when he came to the movie night, he was kind of flirty and sitting really close next to me on the couch and he wants me to be his accountability partner because he just got out of a relationship with a women back in November and she has apparently become jealous of us doing worship together and I had just been dumped in the beginning of January, so he wants us to make a pact to not talk to our ex's now.
This week, we are supposed to be going out for coffee together to "Get to know each other better" and then this friday, we are supposed to be doing a group dinner/games night together with a few friends.

Point is.. help! Has this ever happend to anyone before? The part that makes it difficult, is that I still very much love the person that broke up with me and while I am not 100% sure, I feel like I am supposed to wait for them. That, it's over right now because they need healing from there first marriage still. But am i stupid for waiting? Am i stupid for saying "God i will wait for him until he is ready?" Am i just missing opportunities then? Thing is, this worship leader is nice..kind..friendly..funny.. but he isn't exactly the kind of guy i would personally date. Somtimes i think he is attractive and other times i do not think so at all. Its true, during worship, we definitly make a great team.. but outside of that? Also, something that concerns me, is his choice in past women in relationship. His first wife, he chose someone who could have almsot been his mother, cause she was significantly older. His first relationship after his divorce, he chose someone who is incredibly needy and jealous and needs to be saved. Somtimes i look at that and go "is there something wrong with this picture?" "Is he attracted to women he thinks need saving?" I dont know..

I guess i am freaking out and i feel guilty. It feels like its cheating on my ex to date someone else. I told him that i would wait for him because he was worth waiting for. My heart loves him. I pray for him every single night..him and his children. We didnt end on bad terms at all. The reason it ended, is because he felt like God was telling him he needed to heal some more and he shouldnt be in a romantic relationship at all. We both had felt like we were supposed to get married and do ministry together. We had dreams, visions, prophetic words about the future. .. UGH i feel crazy even keeping hope alive.

What do i do? I feel like this thing with the worship leader will just keep on growing and thing is.. there is no one else on the worship team..its just me and him and there is no other worship leader. He is it. So its like, if i dont want to do it with him, i would have to literally leave the worship team. We are pretty cautious in not being alone and we dont practice on our own..people are always around.. Sometimes it just seems..intimate? during worship? I'm worried about soul ties.

Help!
 

maxwel

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This week, we are supposed to be going out for coffee together to "Get to know each other better" and then this friday, we are supposed to be doing a group dinner/games night together with a few friends

he was kind of flirty and sitting really close next to me on the couch
Help!
- Coffee night and dinners sounds like you're already dating.
- And if you're sitting close together and flirting, and you're having all these private, personal conversations, then you're obviously encouraging him.


So you're encouraging a man, and dating him, and now you're confused because of someone else you're NOT dating, and asking advice here from people who don't actually know either of you?

I think you should go talk to your pastor.
I think that will sort things out.


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- Coffee night and dinners sounds like you're already dating.
- And if you're sitting close together and flirting, and you're having all these private, personal conversations, then you're obviously encouraging him.
I was thinking the same things (and more), but I did not want to get involved.
 

maxwel

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I was thinking the same things (and more), but I did not want to get involved.
There's nothing wrong with her dating the worship leader, as long as both of them are single.
But if she's feeling confused, she should talk to her pastor, who actually knows both of them.
That's the proper way to get effective counsel.

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There's nothing wrong with her dating the worship leader, as long as both of them are single.
Personally, I cannot say that at this time. In other words, all three people involved here (her, her ex, and the worship leader) have been married and divorced before. Are there biblical qualifications for divorce and remarriage? There are, even though multitudes of people live as if there are not. Have they been met in all three of these people? In two of these people? In one of these people?

Anyhow, I know that asking these types of questions only gets one's head ripped off for actually trying to "help," so I and my head will just go our merry way.
 

maxwel

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Anyhow, I know that asking these types of questions only gets one's head ripped off for actually trying to "help," so I and my head will just go our merry way.
ROFL.

I didn't realize everyone involved was divorced.
At any rate, talking to her own pastor is still, I think, the best course of action, especially if the situation is murky or confusing.

We should probably both exit while we still have heads.

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Magenta

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I think you should go talk to your pastor.
I thought the same...


from Ephesians 5:3-4 ~ There must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk, or crude joking, which are out of character, but rather thanksgiving.
 

Dino246

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Okay, I know its a weird title for this post..but its totally true. I started singing on the worship team 3 weeks ago. We have a new worship leader in the church and I have noticed the past couple of weeks, him starting to do things like "love" my photos on facebook, and constantly complimenting me, giving shout out's to me during the livestream for things like help him feel better(i gave some simple advice to fix his shoulder) and talking on the livestream about the movie night i put together and how much he enjoyed it. Tonight he kept telling me how annointed a team we are at worship and how he loves worshipping with me and when he came to the movie night, he was kind of flirty and sitting really close next to me on the couch and he wants me to be his accountability partner because he just got out of a relationship with a women back in November and she has apparently become jealous of us doing worship together and I had just been dumped in the beginning of January, so he wants us to make a pact to not talk to our ex's now.
This week, we are supposed to be going out for coffee together to "Get to know each other better" and then this friday, we are supposed to be doing a group dinner/games night together with a few friends.

Point is.. help! Has this ever happend to anyone before? The part that makes it difficult, is that I still very much love the person that broke up with me and while I am not 100% sure, I feel like I am supposed to wait for them. That, it's over right now because they need healing from there first marriage still. But am i stupid for waiting? Am i stupid for saying "God i will wait for him until he is ready?" Am i just missing opportunities then? Thing is, this worship leader is nice..kind..friendly..funny.. but he isn't exactly the kind of guy i would personally date. Somtimes i think he is attractive and other times i do not think so at all. Its true, during worship, we definitly make a great team.. but outside of that? Also, something that concerns me, is his choice in past women in relationship. His first wife, he chose someone who could have almsot been his mother, cause she was significantly older. His first relationship after his divorce, he chose someone who is incredibly needy and jealous and needs to be saved. Somtimes i look at that and go "is there something wrong with this picture?" "Is he attracted to women he thinks need saving?" I dont know..

I guess i am freaking out and i feel guilty. It feels like its cheating on my ex to date someone else. I told him that i would wait for him because he was worth waiting for. My heart loves him. I pray for him every single night..him and his children. We didnt end on bad terms at all. The reason it ended, is because he felt like God was telling him he needed to heal some more and he shouldnt be in a romantic relationship at all. We both had felt like we were supposed to get married and do ministry together. We had dreams, visions, prophetic words about the future. .. UGH i feel crazy even keeping hope alive.

What do i do? I feel like this thing with the worship leader will just keep on growing and thing is.. there is no one else on the worship team..its just me and him and there is no other worship leader. He is it. So its like, if i dont want to do it with him, i would have to literally leave the worship team. We are pretty cautious in not being alone and we dont practice on our own..people are always around.. Sometimes it just seems..intimate? during worship? I'm worried about soul ties.

Help!
I read as far as the “accountability partner” bit. That’s a red flag of foolishness on his part. The only time that a man should have a female accountability partner is after he is married to her. Don’t date him!

Give the guy a clear No and a clear boundary with consequences for violation. If he persists, leave the team and report him to the elders for harassment.

May the Lord give you wisdom and grace.
 

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If you don't find the worship leader attractive, then I don't think it's a good idea to lead him on. I would talk to him and tell him you just want to be friends because you are not looking for a relationship right now.
 

Godsgirl1983

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Okay, I know its a weird title for this post..but its totally true. I started singing on the worship team 3 weeks ago. We have a new worship leader in the church and I have noticed the past couple of weeks, him starting to do things like "love" my photos on facebook, and constantly complimenting me, giving shout out's to me during the livestream for things like help him feel better(i gave some simple advice to fix his shoulder) and talking on the livestream about the movie night i put together and how much he enjoyed it. Tonight he kept telling me how annointed a team we are at worship and how he loves worshipping with me and when he came to the movie night, he was kind of flirty and sitting really close next to me on the couch and he wants me to be his accountability partner because he just got out of a relationship with a women back in November and she has apparently become jealous of us doing worship together and I had just been dumped in the beginning of January, so he wants us to make a pact to not talk to our ex's now.
This week, we are supposed to be going out for coffee together to "Get to know each other better" and then this friday, we are supposed to be doing a group dinner/games night together with a few friends.

Point is.. help! Has this ever happend to anyone before? The part that makes it difficult, is that I still very much love the person that broke up with me and while I am not 100% sure, I feel like I am supposed to wait for them. That, it's over right now because they need healing from there first marriage still. But am i stupid for waiting? Am i stupid for saying "God i will wait for him until he is ready?" Am i just missing opportunities then? Thing is, this worship leader is nice..kind..friendly..funny.. but he isn't exactly the kind of guy i would personally date. Somtimes i think he is attractive and other times i do not think so at all. Its true, during worship, we definitly make a great team.. but outside of that? Also, something that concerns me, is his choice in past women in relationship. His first wife, he chose someone who could have almsot been his mother, cause she was significantly older. His first relationship after his divorce, he chose someone who is incredibly needy and jealous and needs to be saved. Somtimes i look at that and go "is there something wrong with this picture?" "Is he attracted to women he thinks need saving?" I dont know..

I guess i am freaking out and i feel guilty. It feels like its cheating on my ex to date someone else. I told him that i would wait for him because he was worth waiting for. My heart loves him. I pray for him every single night..him and his children. We didnt end on bad terms at all. The reason it ended, is because he felt like God was telling him he needed to heal some more and he shouldnt be in a romantic relationship at all. We both had felt like we were supposed to get married and do ministry together. We had dreams, visions, prophetic words about the future. .. UGH i feel crazy even keeping hope alive.

What do i do? I feel like this thing with the worship leader will just keep on growing and thing is.. there is no one else on the worship team..its just me and him and there is no other worship leader. He is it. So its like, if i dont want to do it with him, i would have to literally leave the worship team. We are pretty cautious in not being alone and we dont practice on our own..people are always around.. Sometimes it just seems..intimate? during worship? I'm worried about soul ties.

Help!
Okay, so before I put any time into pointing various things out within the post here and offer any 'help' my first question to you is this:

Are you a mother? (I think I recall you mentioning a daughter in another thread)

OKAY STOP right there.
(Assuming your answer is 'yes' and the child(ren) is/are a minor)
You don't need to be dating, flirting, or casually chatting with ANY men right now., especially a man who is also coming out of a relationship and in rebound mode.
Your child(ren) doesn't need to be watching this take place and certainly doesn't need to be dragged along with you into relationship after relationship. Adults think it's hard enough on them to end a relationship, but often fail to realize how heartbreaking it is on children getting dragged into it and forming relationships/bonds that now have to end through no fault of their own.
Sorry/not sorry if this sounds/seems harsh, but as long as there are any minor children involved parents shouldn't be rushing into any relationships.
 

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Okay, so before I put any time into pointing various things out within the post here and offer any 'help' my first question to you is this:

Are you a mother? (I think I recall you mentioning a daughter in another thread)

OKAY STOP right there.
(Assuming your answer is 'yes' and the child(ren) is/are a minor)
You don't need to be dating, flirting, or casually chatting with ANY men right now., especially a man who is also coming out of a relationship and in rebound mode.
Your child(ren) doesn't need to be watching this take place and certainly doesn't need to be dragged along with you into relationship after relationship. Adults think it's hard enough on them to end a relationship, but often fail to realize how heartbreaking it is on children getting dragged into it and forming relationships/bonds that now have to end through no fault of their own.
Sorry/not sorry if this sounds/seems harsh, but as long as there are any minor children involved parents shouldn't be rushing into any relationships.

Agree 100%
 

Subhumanoidal

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Okay, I know its a weird title for this post..but its totally true. I started singing on the worship team 3 weeks ago. We have a new worship leader in the church and I have noticed the past couple of weeks, him starting to do things like "love" my photos on facebook, and constantly complimenting me, giving shout out's to me during the livestream for things like help him feel better(i gave some simple advice to fix his shoulder) and talking on the livestream about the movie night i put together and how much he enjoyed it. Tonight he kept telling me how annointed a team we are at worship and how he loves worshipping with me and when he came to the movie night, he was kind of flirty and sitting really close next to me on the couch and he wants me to be his accountability partner because he just got out of a relationship with a women back in November and she has apparently become jealous of us doing worship together and I had just been dumped in the beginning of January, so he wants us to make a pact to not talk to our ex's now.
This week, we are supposed to be going out for coffee together to "Get to know each other better" and then this friday, we are supposed to be doing a group dinner/games night together with a few friends.

Point is.. help! Has this ever happend to anyone before? The part that makes it difficult, is that I still very much love the person that broke up with me and while I am not 100% sure, I feel like I am supposed to wait for them. That, it's over right now because they need healing from there first marriage still. But am i stupid for waiting? Am i stupid for saying "God i will wait for him until he is ready?" Am i just missing opportunities then? Thing is, this worship leader is nice..kind..friendly..funny.. but he isn't exactly the kind of guy i would personally date. Somtimes i think he is attractive and other times i do not think so at all. Its true, during worship, we definitly make a great team.. but outside of that? Also, something that concerns me, is his choice in past women in relationship. His first wife, he chose someone who could have almsot been his mother, cause she was significantly older. His first relationship after his divorce, he chose someone who is incredibly needy and jealous and needs to be saved. Somtimes i look at that and go "is there something wrong with this picture?" "Is he attracted to women he thinks need saving?" I dont know..

I guess i am freaking out and i feel guilty. It feels like its cheating on my ex to date someone else. I told him that i would wait for him because he was worth waiting for. My heart loves him. I pray for him every single night..him and his children. We didnt end on bad terms at all. The reason it ended, is because he felt like God was telling him he needed to heal some more and he shouldnt be in a romantic relationship at all. We both had felt like we were supposed to get married and do ministry together. We had dreams, visions, prophetic words about the future. .. UGH i feel crazy even keeping hope alive.

What do i do? I feel like this thing with the worship leader will just keep on growing and thing is.. there is no one else on the worship team..its just me and him and there is no other worship leader. He is it. So its like, if i dont want to do it with him, i would have to literally leave the worship team. We are pretty cautious in not being alone and we dont practice on our own..people are always around.. Sometimes it just seems..intimate? during worship? I'm worried about soul ties.

Help!
It seems to me the current guy is coming on a bit strong. Neither of you have discussed being in a relationship together, but he's doing things that make it sound like you are.
Though it's not helping that you go along with everything. That's you leading him on.
And a accountability partners should never be people attracted to each other, or even one is attracted to the other. That kind if defeats the purpose.

As far as your ex, I don't buy into it. I was with someone I was certain God wanted me with. Then she, too, decided she needed to take a break because she had been married and still not over it. Long story short, within months she changed her mind and ended things.
I once knew a guy who was Convinced God wanted him and his ex wife back together. Even though she was remarried already. Had been for a while.
Well they never got back together and he ended up marrying someone else, after Years of waiting for his ex.

I find most people that are big on convincing people God told them who they should be with are wrong.
It's very easy to convince yourself that God is telling you what you want to hear because you end up looking for signs, and turning things that are not signs into one.
 
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- Coffee night and dinners sounds like you're already dating.
- And if you're sitting close together and flirting, and you're having all these private, personal conversations, then you're obviously encouraging him.


So you're encouraging a man, and dating him, and now you're confused because of someone else you're NOT dating, and asking advice here from people who don't actually know either of you?

I think you should go talk to your pastor.
I think that will sort things out.


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I think you misunderstand..
It is coffee at a cafe during the day and the dinner with a group of friends include both men and women. I cant control his decision to sit down on a couch next to me when there is only one couch and 5 adults. Also, i'm not flirting with him. I never have. I am in love with my ex boyfriend who just broke up with me in January.

I said it feels like cheating on my ex boyfriend to even consider a relationship with someone else when i said i would wait for him.

This is not an issue of "im flirting with a guy who is not even divorced yet and we are going out on dates. I havent even gone out for coffee with him. He says its "to get to know each others stories". I have not flirted or made a move on him. I am still dealing with a broken heart.
 
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Personally, I cannot say that at this time. In other words, all three people involved here (her, her ex, and the worship leader) have been married and divorced before. Are there biblical qualifications for divorce and remarriage? There are, even though multitudes of people live as if there are not. Have they been met in all three of these people? In two of these people? In one of these people?

Anyhow, I know that asking these types of questions only gets one's head ripped off for actually trying to "help," so I and my head will just go our merry way.
No, you have a fair point.. and I can tell you that my ex-husband filed for divorce after he had cheated on me and gotten another girl pregnent. Also, he chose to walk away from our marriage and he was an unbeliever.

My ex-boyfriends, ex-wife cheated on him before they were even separated and she was a believer who left the Lord 1 year into their marriage.

The worship leader is not divorced. He has been separated for 8 years abd his wife did not cheat on him. She simply filed for divorce. He just got out of a relationshio with a girl last November.
 
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ROFL.

I didn't realize everyone involved was divorced.
At any rate, talking to her own pastor is still, I think, the best course of action, especially if the situation is murky or confusing.

We should probably both exit while we still have heads.

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The worship leader is not. He is only separated for the past 8 years. His wife waa the one who wanted to separate. Thats all i really know aside from the fact that he gput out of a relationship in november with someone else.

Both myself and my ex-boyfriend came out of marriages after 13 and 14 years in which our spouses cheated on us with another person. My ex-husband had an affair while we were married and got a girl pregnent. My ex-boyfriend married a women who cheated on him and had an affair and decided a year into their marriage she was no longer going to be a Christian.
 
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ROFL.

I didn't realize everyone involved was divorced.
At any rate, talking to her own pastor is still, I think, the best course of action, especially if the situation is murky or confusing.

We should probably both exit while we still have heads.

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The worship leader is not. He is only separated for the past 8 years. His wife waa the one who wanted to separate. Thats all i really know aside from the fact that he gput out of a relationship in november with someone else

Both myself and my ex-boyfriend came out of marriages after 13 and 14 years in which our spouses cheated on us with another person. My ex-husband had an affair while we were married and got a girl pregnent. My ex-boyfriend married a women who cheated on him and had an affair and decided a year into their marriage she was no longer going to be a Christian.
 
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Okay, I know its a weird title for this post..but its totally true. I started singing on the worship team 3 weeks ago. We have a new worship leader in the church and I have noticed the past couple of weeks, him starting to do things like "love" my photos on facebook, and constantly complimenting me, giving shout out's to me during the livestream for things like help him feel better(i gave some simple advice to fix his shoulder) and talking on the livestream about the movie night i put together and how much he enjoyed it. Tonight he kept telling me how annointed a team we are at worship and how he loves worshipping with me and when he came to the movie night, he was kind of flirty and sitting really close next to me on the couch and he wants me to be his accountability partner because he just got out of a relationship with a women back in November and she has apparently become jealous of us doing worship together and I had just been dumped in the beginning of January, so he wants us to make a pact to not talk to our ex's now.
This week, we are supposed to be going out for coffee together to "Get to know each other better" and then this friday, we are supposed to be doing a group dinner/games night together with a few friends.

Point is.. help! Has this ever happend to anyone before? The part that makes it difficult, is that I still very much love the person that broke up with me and while I am not 100% sure, I feel like I am supposed to wait for them. That, it's over right now because they need healing from there first marriage still. But am i stupid for waiting? Am i stupid for saying "God i will wait for him until he is ready?" Am i just missing opportunities then? Thing is, this worship leader is nice..kind..friendly..funny.. but he isn't exactly the kind of guy i would personally date. Somtimes i think he is attractive and other times i do not think so at all. Its true, during worship, we definitly make a great team.. but outside of that? Also, something that concerns me, is his choice in past women in relationship. His first wife, he chose someone who could have almsot been his mother, cause she was significantly older. His first relationship after his divorce, he chose someone who is incredibly needy and jealous and needs to be saved. Somtimes i look at that and go "is there something wrong with this picture?" "Is he attracted to women he thinks need saving?" I dont know..

I guess i am freaking out and i feel guilty. It feels like its cheating on my ex to date someone else. I told him that i would wait for him because he was worth waiting for. My heart loves him. I pray for him every single night..him and his children. We didnt end on bad terms at all. The reason it ended, is because he felt like God was telling him he needed to heal some more and he shouldnt be in a romantic relationship at all. We both had felt like we were supposed to get married and do ministry together. We had dreams, visions, prophetic words about the future. .. UGH i feel crazy even keeping hope alive.

What do i do? I feel like this thing with the worship leader will just keep on growing and thing is.. there is no one else on the worship team..its just me and him and there is no other worship leader. He is it. So its like, if i dont want to do it with him, i would have to literally leave the worship team. We are pretty cautious in not being alone and we dont practice on our own..people are always around.. Sometimes it just seems..intimate? during worship? I'm worried about soul ties.

Help!
Okay so it seems people may be a little confused judging by the responses.. so let me sumarize my point i was trying to ask for help on.

1) on new worship team-worship leader is flirting, asking me out for coffee, and demonstrating obvious interest in me. Worship leader IS NOT divorced. He is separated only.

2) Me- divorced after husband walked away from the Lord and had affair and got a girl pregnent.

3) Only worship team is led by this worship leader. I am on the worship team as of 3 weeks ago

4) My ex-boyfriend(who is divorced due to his wife deciding to walk away from the Lord AND cheat on him) broke up with me in the beginning of January. My heart is broken still AND i love him still AND right now even if foolish, am waiting for him because we both felt that God put us together. Reason he broke up with me, was he realizes he needs more healing from his divorce to his first wife.

5) The issue is NOT me wanting to date the worship leader. I WILL NOT date a married man.

6) I am asking for HELP because the worship leader is flirting and demonstrating interest in me and I dont know what to do about it. If i quit the worship team..then it means i can no longer do worship at church at all. If i stay on the worship team.. i am worried about soul ties and worried about him continuing to demonstrate interest.
 

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I urge you to consider stories like these.

 

Godsgirl1983

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Worship leader IS NOT divorced. He is separated only.
Well, if nothing else said within this thread resonates with you this should AT LEAST be ringing out in your mind as A BIG

I am asking for HELP because the worship leader is flirting and demonstrating interest in me and I dont know what to do about it.
Well, you came on here asking for advice and I think you were given some wise council
here:
I think you should go talk to your pastor.
and here:
if she's feeling confused, she should talk to her pastor, who actually knows both of them.
That's the proper way to get effective counsel.
and here:
talking to her own pastor is still, I think, the best course of action
So,
What does your pastor have to say about this situation?