“Once For All”

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NetChaplain

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The Christians “forgiveness” is “once for all,” meaning that God’s forgiveness needs applied only “once” (Heb 10:10, 14), and which is never withdrawn, so it is continually unending and needs not to forgive over and over (unlike the Popish mass supports) but just once, which is eternal.

Christians always “please” God (Phl 2:13) because He “works” this in them to maintain obedience, which has no relation concerning His forgiveness because this is related only to His Son’s Cross work. This doesn’t mean sinlessness, but a “hatred” (Rom 7:15) and (“unwilling” desire to ever sin (verse 16).

This means Christians are never without God’s “forgiveness,” and this is what Christ’s sacrifice primarily secured for the saints. They may often not feel forgiven but He is “faithful and just to forgive us our sins,” which among many other reasons God loves the saint; of course this is considering the “confession” of those who love God and are secured by His Holy Spirit using the Life of Jesus in them (Col 3:4).

The “confession of our sin” is what the Christian performs and is repetitious, but not God’s forgiveness. The believer never has to ask for forgiveness, which is always present, but rather thank God for it! Confession just means “to admit,” thus, just tell God you have sinned and thank Him for His ever-present forgiveness!

Blessed be God above all!






MJS daily devotional for April 13

“For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Col. 2:9).

“Reckoning” on the work of the Cross is the only relief from the carnal burden of self. Then comes the spiritual burden of Christ—to be more like Him. “Reckoning” is the answer there, too. “Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through [in] Jesus Christ our Lord” (Rom. 6.11). If we seek to escape the death, we will not experience the life.

“We are not to try to crucify self, but we are to agree (reckon) with what God has said and done. In the lives of most believers self has usurped the place belonging to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is a criminal worthy of death, but the trouble is that they do not realize that this self-life has been crucified on the Cross. They do not believe the facts of the Word, and sin therefore reigns in their lives; they live in bondage to sin, praying for deliverance, praying that they may die to sin, but refusing to believe what God says He has already done.” -L.L.L.

“The constant tendency is to try to improve the manner of one’s life here below by adopting Christian principles, whereas you will never arrive at it unless you start from ‘crucified with Christ.’ Then it is not thinking of what I am, but of what He is, ‘Christ liveth in me.’“ - James Butler Stoney (1814-97)
http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
 

Intersection

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Jesus only forgives those who made it, the rest are in hell.
 

ResidentAlien

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The Christians “forgiveness” is “once for all,” meaning that God’s forgiveness needs applied only “once” (Heb 10:10, 14), and which is never withdrawn, so it is continually unending and needs not to forgive over and over (unlike the Popish mass supports) but just once, which is eternal.

Christians always “please” God (Phl 2:13) because He “works” this in them to maintain obedience, which has no relation concerning His forgiveness because this is related only to His Son’s Cross work. This doesn’t mean sinlessness, but a “hatred” (Rom 7:15) and (“unwilling” desire to ever sin (verse 16).

This means Christians are never without God’s “forgiveness,” and this is what Christ’s sacrifice primarily secured for the saints. They may often not feel forgiven but He is “faithful and just to forgive us our sins,” which among many other reasons God loves the saint; of course this is considering the “confession” of those who love God and are secured by His Holy Spirit using the Life of Jesus in them (Col 3:4).

The “confession of our sin” is what the Christian performs and is repetitious, but not God’s forgiveness. The believer never has to ask for forgiveness, which is always present, but rather thank God for it! Confession just means “to admit,” thus, just tell God you have sinned and thank Him for His ever-present forgiveness!


Blessed be God above all!





MJS daily devotional for April 13

“For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Col. 2:9).

“Reckoning” on the work of the Cross is the only relief from the carnal burden of self. Then comes the spiritual burden of Christ—to be more like Him. “Reckoning” is the answer there, too. “Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through [in] Jesus Christ our Lord” (Rom. 6.11). If we seek to escape the death, we will not experience the life.

“We are not to try to crucify self, but we are to agree (reckon) with what God has said and done. In the lives of most believers self has usurped the place belonging to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is a criminal worthy of death, but the trouble is that they do not realize that this self-life has been crucified on the Cross. They do not believe the facts of the Word, and sin therefore reigns in their lives; they live in bondage to sin, praying for deliverance, praying that they may die to sin, but refusing to believe what God says He has already done.” -L.L.L.

“The constant tendency is to try to improve the manner of one’s life here below by adopting Christian principles, whereas you will never arrive at it unless you start from ‘crucified with Christ.’ Then it is not thinking of what I am, but of what He is, ‘Christ liveth in me.’“ - James Butler Stoney (1814-97)
http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
Christ is the only one with immortality right now; and those who have passed on the be with the Lord. Believers don't have immortality just because they believe. Immortality is a promise to those who run and finish the race.
 

Magenta

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John 5:24-25 ~ Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not come under judgment. Indeed, he has crossed over from death to life. Truly, truly, I tell you, the hour is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. :)
 

Lynx

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Yay! More once saved always saved junk. I can tell netchaplain is so glad the forum is back.
 

Seeker47

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I think I will need to ask Saul about this!
 

NetChaplain

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Christ is the only one with immortality right now; and those who have passed on the be with the Lord. Believers don't have immortality just because they believe. Immortality is a promise to those who run and finish the race.
Hi and thanks for your comment! It's my understanding that the gift of eternal life in Christ cannot be won because it's a gift. The "race" we "run" (1Co 9:24)is not for salvation, which is obtained at the time we ask Christ in. Salvation of course is a free gift of God and not a "prize" (reward); plus you must be reborn to run the race of Christianity!
 

ResidentAlien

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Hi and thanks for your comment! It's my understanding that the gift of eternal life in Christ cannot be won because it's a gift. The "race" we "run" (1Co 9:24)is not for salvation, which is obtained at the time we ask Christ in. Salvation of course is a free gift of God and not a "prize" (reward); plus you must be reborn to run the race of Christianity!
Salvation is an ongoing process, and a walk with the Lord. It's a walk of faith and obedience. The idea that a believer is "zapped" and forever changed the moment they believe is quite wrong in my opinion. We will be given immortality and forever changed when we die in the Lord, or when He appears. However, I know these discussions lead nowhere; I'm not trying to convince you, as I know I won't.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Salvation is an ongoing process, and a walk with the Lord. It's a walk of faith and obedience. The idea that a believer is "zapped" and forever changed the moment they believe is quite wrong in my opinion.
well we are made new creatures. But yes. we still struggle and we must grow..

But we are saved forever. To say we are not is put the onus of salvation on self. and claim you can do what Chrtist could not do

We will be given immortality and forever changed when we die in the Lord, or when He appears. However, I know these discussions lead nowhere; I'm not trying to convince you, as I know I won't.
It is sad
 

NetChaplain

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However, I know these discussions lead nowhere; I'm not trying to convince you, as I know I won't.
Well put, same with me, I know everyone will believe what they believe! But, what you keep bringing up only concerns spiritual growth and not salvation. Many Christians now days do not grow much in Christ, but they are saved. Spiritual growth will determine what level of authority we will be at in the New Heaven! God bless!!