President Trump’s Christianity

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ResidentAlien

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#61
You're new. Welcome.

Resident Alien is supposedly Canadian.

Don't let their false empathy for our President Trump fool you. 99.9% of their posts in current events forum are full of hate filled vitriol for Trump and America.
I'm from the USA, so there's that. I was born here and I love this country. I want to see the US succeed, but I don't see Donald as helping us do that. That's just my opinion.

So you can't be critical of someone and still hope and pray for them? Criticism does not necessarily indicate hate; sorry if you feel like it does. Have a blessed day.
 

Eli1

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I'm from the USA, so there's that. I was born here and I love this country. I want to see the US succeed, but I don't see Donald as helping us do that. That's just my opinion.

So you can't be critical of someone and still hope and pray for them? Criticism does not necessarily indicate hate; sorry if you feel like it does. Have a blessed day.
You compare Trump to Hitler.
You have Stage 3 TDS.
 

HeIsHere

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I don't support Trump due to his supposed faith. I simply agreed with a lot he said. Doubly so in light of his opponent.
Any celeb or politician or famous person that claims to be a Christian, I take with a grain of salt until I see long term proof. It doesn't mean I have to be against them if there is no long term proof. They may simply be mislead.
I wonder what long term proof looks like?
 

SonJudgment

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Well the Heads of State in the world don't neccessarily have to be Christian for God to use them, that is the first lesson above all and really the greater game of interest. That said I do actually believe Trump is Christian, and I believe he is becoming even moreso mindful of the Lord. The comments and controversy you cite is old and even for its time its kinda making a mountain out of a molehill. That's not just saying to dismiss your concerns in the OP, for indeed we should want a Christian President as opposed to a heathen, but consider much has happened since those comments were made in the 2015-2016 cycle, notably the near miss assassination attempt that has had a profound effect on Trump as a person and the world overall. Indeed from that point to now Trump has engaged more with Christianity and religion. I would note in my lifetime and from old footage of past Presidents in the modern era, Trump already for his second term has directly staked the belief that Jesus specifically is God as opposed to the modern politicians that somewhat stay vague and equivocate with the unbelievers for secular pandering purposes when talking about God or religion, even if they are actually Christians themselves. Already Trump for his second term now has from the chair of authority affirmed belief in Jesus that he is God and the veracity of the Gospel. Really just in the past Easter week Trump already surpassed all his predecessors of my lifetime for affirming the belief in Jesus specifically even if we compare Trump to himself and his first term, and of course in the greater game of things many things happened this particular past blessed Easter when many remembered Jesus rose again. I would argue Trump was Christian in his first term, but through everything that has transpired in these years since his faith is visibly stronger. In theory though anyone can fall away even Solomon who was an overall good king and wise did fall towards the end of his reign, but then again hypothetically anything is possible. As things stand as of now though Trump is a Christian President, and not only this but the actual strongest Christian President at least for the lifetime of the Millennials on down. We must make the most of the blessings for who knows what is ahead in the near future, but either way praise Jesus.
 

p_rehbein

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Scripture says we will know men by their works. Throughout his life and two Presidencies, Trump has lived an earthly/carnal life and NOT a Christ like life. Trump seems to reserve mentioning Christianity for Campaign speeches.

Those believers who count Trump as one of the "redeemed" do so IMO based on his words/actions.
 

SomeDisciple

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God in the old testament used pagan rulers, like the ruler of Persia and Babylonian for His own purposes. Amos witness to the rulers of Israel, telling them to “act justly love, mercy”.
You may be confusing the kingdom of God with Luthers Two Spheres theory. Luther said that the secular world and thereligious world do not interact. Poses the question: when is God not reining over the Earth and its inhabitants?
Thanks for your comments. Have a blessed day.
I didn't say they didn't interact; and I didn't say rulers shouldn't act justly; and I don't care about what Luther or what any of his writings say.

What I said, comrade, is that the government isn't the Church any more than it is your local car wash, or flower shop. It is not the solution to all your problems. It's misuse has caused more problems than it has ever fixed.
 

PennEd

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It’s a good time to remind everyone just how satanically evil the left and democrats are.

With no hyperbole, this is their agenda, beliefs and platform, straight from their father, the devil:

1. LGBTQ…. Etc…. EVERYTHING.

2. The mutilation/body dismemberment and chemical puberty blockers of even small children. EVEN without parental consent.

3. Taking children away from parents who refuse to “affirm” their kids, pushed by demonic teachers, new gender name and decision to mutilate themselves. See New Colorado Law.

4. D.E.I. (Divisive Evil Incitement, or Didn’t Earn It) EVERYWHERE, Even if it impacts public safety like in the airline industry.

5. Regulation of every aspect of your life , including your what you must put in your body. They fought like Satan himself to force experimental, dangerous, DNA altering vaccines into you, and your children.

6. The destruction of the fossil fuel infrastructure and industry in a thousand different ways, through the global warming scam, even to the extent of banning gas stoves and other beloved appliances.

6. Maybe should’ve been number one. ABORTIION! On demand, for any reason, up to, and even AFTER birth in some cases. Their commitment to this Molech worshipping sacrament is their greatest belief.

7. CENSORSHIP!! Another one of their strong, anti American sacraments. The evil left is faaaar more advanced in this regard in Canada and Europe, but the democrats desperately tried (see disinformation czar) and want to have absolute control of what people are allowed to say. They know when concise, unassailable facts, like this post are said to the general public, they will always lose.

8. Socialism/Communism/Fascism injected into EVERY single legislative thing they do.

9. Getting back to the Climate Hoax designed to enslave people with draconian laws, EVEN to limit their ability to move freely, we have a demon filled democrat old lady in Massachusetts, actually introducing legislation that will limit how many miles people Will be allowed to drive their vehicle. I’ll post the story.

There is no debate GOP has many problems with what they do as well. But the difference in policy is so dramatically stark, I cannot understand how a professing Christian can carry ANY water for them at all, or constantly bash our President, who is absolutely trying fix some of these wrongs.
What the h**l is wrong with you!!?

“Reduce the Need for Personal Vehicles”: Top Massachusetts Democrat Wants to Limit How Many Miles Residents Can Drive or Drive at All, Because ‘Climate Change’
By Kristinn Taylor May. 25, 2025 4:00 pm1065 Comments
Massachusetts Senate Majority Leader Cynthia Stone Creem (D) introduced a bill this year to create a commission with the goal of reducing the number of miles driven by residents in their cars because of ‘climate change’, with an ultimate goal to “reduce the need for personal vehicles.”


https://x.com/MassFiscal/status/1926011486062662016
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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#70
Scripture says we will know men by their works. Throughout his life and two Presidencies, Trump has lived an earthly/carnal life and NOT a Christ like life. Trump seems to reserve mentioning Christianity for Campaign speeches.

Those believers who count Trump as one of the "redeemed" do so IMO based on his words/actions.
I believe there's been a big change in Trump since he was shot, his daughter in law has said the same. Yes, Trump has a devil may care past life. But I don't see anything in either presidential term that would say he lives a carnal life. What makes you say that?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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It’s a good time to remind everyone just how satanically evil the left and democrats are.

With no hyperbole, this is their agenda, beliefs and platform, straight from their father, the devil:

1. LGBTQ…. Etc…. EVERYTHING.

2. The mutilation/body dismemberment and chemical puberty blockers of even small children. EVEN without parental consent.

3. Taking children away from parents who refuse to “affirm” their kids, pushed by demonic teachers, new gender name and decision to mutilate themselves. See New Colorado Law.

4. D.E.I. (Divisive Evil Incitement, or Didn’t Earn It) EVERYWHERE, Even if it impacts public safety like in the airline industry.

5. Regulation of every aspect of your life , including your what you must put in your body. They fought like Satan himself to force experimental, dangerous, DNA altering vaccines into you, and your children.

6. The destruction of the fossil fuel infrastructure and industry in a thousand different ways, through the global warming scam, even to the extent of banning gas stoves and other beloved appliances.

6. Maybe should’ve been number one. ABORTIION! On demand, for any reason, up to, and even AFTER birth in some cases. Their commitment to this Molech worshipping sacrament is their greatest belief.

7. CENSORSHIP!! Another one of their strong, anti American sacraments. The evil left is faaaar more advanced in this regard in Canada and Europe, but the democrats desperately tried (see disinformation czar) and want to have absolute control of what people are allowed to say. They know when concise, unassailable facts, like this post are said to the general public, they will always lose.

8. Socialism/Communism/Fascism injected into EVERY single legislative thing they do.

9. Getting back to the Climate Hoax designed to enslave people with draconian laws, EVEN to limit their ability to move freely, we have a demon filled democrat old lady in Massachusetts, actually introducing legislation that will limit how many miles people Will be allowed to drive their vehicle. I’ll post the story.

There is no debate GOP has many problems with what they do as well. But the difference in policy is so dramatically stark, I cannot understand how a professing Christian can carry ANY water for them at all, or constantly bash our President, who is absolutely trying fix some of these wrongs.
What the h**l is wrong with you!!?

“Reduce the Need for Personal Vehicles”: Top Massachusetts Democrat Wants to Limit How Many Miles Residents Can Drive or Drive at All, Because ‘Climate Change’
By Kristinn Taylor May. 25, 2025 4:00 pm1065 Comments
Massachusetts Senate Majority Leader Cynthia Stone Creem (D) introduced a bill this year to create a commission with the goal of reducing the number of miles driven by residents in their cars because of ‘climate change’, with an ultimate goal to “reduce the need for personal vehicles.”


https://x.com/MassFiscal/status/1926011486062662016

Wow, that is one rough stretch of highway! Tough looking bird. Hubby and I were watching "What is a Woman"? documentary last night. It would make your hair curl. Everyone should see it once. That's why I say you can't be a Christian and vote Dem any longer.
 

ZNP

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#72
It’s a good time to remind everyone just how satanically evil the left and democrats are.

With no hyperbole, this is their agenda, beliefs and platform, straight from their father, the devil:

1. LGBTQ…. Etc…. EVERYTHING.

2. The mutilation/body dismemberment and chemical puberty blockers of even small children. EVEN without parental consent.
Lord we thank you for reaffirming that the authority over the children's lives was given by You to the parents and may these events remind patents of how important it is that they do their responsibility of protecting and teaching their children.

3. Taking children away from parents who refuse to “affirm” their kids, pushed by demonic teachers, new gender name and decision to mutilate themselves. See New Colorado Law.
Lord, we are in a spiritual war and may the believers, like Job, realize

42 Then Job answered the Lord, and said, 2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. 3 Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.

All they need to do is pray to You

4. D.E.I. (Divisive Evil Incitement, or Didn’t Earn It) EVERYWHERE, Even if it impacts public safety like in the airline industry.

5. Regulation of every aspect of your life , including your what you must put in your body. They fought like Satan himself to force experimental, dangerous, DNA altering vaccines into you, and your children.

6. The destruction of the fossil fuel infrastructure and industry in a thousand different ways, through the global warming scam, even to the extent of banning gas stoves and other beloved appliances.

6. Maybe should’ve been number one. ABORTIION! On demand, for any reason, up to, and even AFTER birth in some cases. Their commitment to this Molech worshipping sacrament is their greatest belief.

7. CENSORSHIP!! Another one of their strong, anti American sacraments. The evil left is faaaar more advanced in this regard in Canada and Europe, but the democrats desperately tried (see disinformation czar) and want to have absolute control of what people are allowed to say. They know when concise, unassailable facts, like this post are said to the general public, they will always lose.

8. Socialism/Communism/Fascism injected into EVERY single legislative thing they do.

9. Getting back to the Climate Hoax designed to enslave people with draconian laws, EVEN to limit their ability to move freely, we have a demon filled democrat old lady in Massachusetts, actually introducing legislation that will limit how many miles people Will be allowed to drive their vehicle. I’ll post the story.
This is a spiritual war. We are dealing with Leviathan. We cannot do this on our own.

41 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?

2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?

3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?

4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?

Therefore we need to pray because Jesus can do this, He is Lord of Lords and King of kings. At His name the demons flee.
 

Mouse_Cheeks

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I'm from the USA, so there's that. I was born here and I love this country. I want to see the US succeed, but I don't see Donald as helping us do that. That's just my opinion.

So you can't be critical of someone and still hope and pray for them? Criticism does not necessarily indicate hate; sorry if you feel like it does. Have a blessed day.
You hid your profile.
Before hiding it your profile identified your home country as Canada. So,there was that. Until now.

Furthermore,hiding your profile doesn't erase your hate screed post history.

When you are now denying the truth of your posts against Trump that says you're afraid of the truth they show of your lack of character.
Especially evident now when you attempt to soft soap all that hate,sarcasm, ad Hominem attack history you wrote against Trump and America.

You're sorry?
Yes,yes you are.
 

lrs68

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As to the concerns about the United States Donald Trump is the leadership this Nation has desperately needed in the recent generations. But I truly feel that Trump, like many great National Leaders like our Founding Fathers [Washington - Adams - Jefferson - Franklin - Others] were great business men, libertarians, ruthless when need be, highly intelligent, property owners, had their affairs in order, seem to all have one thing in common with Trump. They were Deists. I truly believe deep inside Trump he sees no other as his equal.

But what I am hoping is what happened in Pennsylvania awakened him and he truly and sincerely believes that Almighty God spared him and saved his life.

I also wonder, God uses people like Trump to align His Plan. God could simply be using Trump to take us into Tribulation.

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Few weeks ago my company had a sit down with all employees. We do work for the Pentagon, Aerospace, Defense, Military, Musk, and that category. They informed us that by 2026\2027 we would be cashless and the Pentagon asked if us, like the many other manufacturers they work with, could start microchipping and we would clock in\out, bank, medical, shop through the chip. They said it's been approved by the President. That is Donald Trump.

So I am looking at being forced to get chip implanted or find new employment in the coming months because of Donald Trump. I have no doubt that all businesses will be going this direction in the coming years. God is using Donald Trump to prepare some for the MOB whenever that day happens.

I love and voted for Donald Trump and have no regrets whatsoever about it. I always believed God was using him like God used him with Jerusalem being the recognized Capital of Israel. I don't believe Trump is aware of this decision he made because it's God's Will being done. But I am more aware of the day and hour we live because of Donald Trump and I am thankful for it.
 

shittim

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Thank you for sharing, I always appreciate your inspired input.
blessings:)(y):unsure:
 

BillyBob

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I think that LarryE and HeIsHere are both the same person. There may be more! I'm using AI to get to the bottom of this.
 

p_rehbein

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It’s a good time to remind everyone just how satanically evil the left and democrats are.
I don't know anyone who sings their praises, I certainly do not, nor have I. In fact, I have been more critical of them than the Repubs or Trump, so maybe "others" need reminding, I do not.

What I am tired of is Christians saying the "better of two evils" is a good thing. Seriously?
 

p_rehbein

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...S&cvid=748d009c2f714e21987357e53dca1d2b&ei=84

At Veterans Affairs, plan for sweeping cuts tanks morale

Morale is plummeting inside the Department of Veterans Affairs as tens of thousands of employees prepare for deep staffing cuts, raising alarms among employees, veterans and advocates who fear the reductions would severely damage care and benefits for millions of the nation’s former service members.

When Trump does something good, I give him credit. When he does something bad, I give him credit for that too.

That's the difference between me and the "nothing but Trumpsters here) Honesty really is the best Policy, right?
 

p_rehbein

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The Economic Effects of President Trump’s Tariffs

Summary: Many trade models fail to capture the full harm of tariffs. PWBM projects Trump’s tariffs (April 8, 2025) will reduce long-run GDP by about 6% and wages by 5%. A middle-income household faces a $22K lifetime loss. These losses are twice as large as a revenue-equivalent corporate tax increase from 21% to 36%, an otherwise highly distorting tax.

Trump’s tariffs are inflicting serious economic damage …


President Donald Trump’s tariff policies are slowing economic growth in the United States and around the world while sending prices higher again, creating a toxic stew for the global economy that could grow even worse if tensions escalate, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said Monday.

The quarterly report is the first sweeping attempt by global economists to document and forecast the damage from Trump’s policies to the economies of America and its trading partners. The OECD report shows what US markets have been signaling for several weeks as they’ve rapidly tumbled into correction territory: Trump’s tariffs could choke the global economy and reignite inflation at a precarious time.

(just two examples, and, still yet, this will be xxxx'ed because those who do so refuse to admit the TRUTH)
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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What I am tired of is Christians saying the "better of two evils" is a good thing. Seriously?
You'd have to pay for a month of DailyWire to get the movie "What is a Woman"? by Matt Walsh. Every single Christian should watch it and see what would have happened had Trump not gotten back into the presidency. I don't even have children and I'm outraged. You should give it a watch.