An Oath of Faith: Will You Stop Putting God in a Box?

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OATH: No More Putting God in a Box
A Personal Commitment to Trust the Unlimited Power and Will of God

Have you ever caught yourself saying or thinking something like:


“That’s too big to pray for…”
“I don’t think God would really do that…”
“It’s probably not possible…”​

Here’s a thought:
What if we’ve been putting God in a box?


Not on purpose. Not out of rebellion.
But maybe out of fear… doubt… tradition… or just forgetting how limitless He really is.


This isn't a guilt trip.
It's a wake-up call — for all of us.
Not to shame ourselves, but to stretch our faith, honor God's greatness, and start praying, living, and believing like we truly know who He is.


So I offer this oath — not as a rule, but as a response.
To say: “God, I don’t want to limit You anymore. I want to trust You fully and ask boldly — according to Your will.”


Part 1 — What I Choose to Ask For: The Things God WANTS Me to Ask

These are things God has made clear in His Word that He desires for us to pursue, pray for, and live out.


  1. To live like Jesus
    1 John 2:6 — “He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.”
  2. To obey God's commands
    John 14:15 — “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
  3. To walk in the fruit of the Spirit, not the flesh
    Galatians 5:22-23 — “The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control…”
  4. To love God with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength
    Mark 12:30 — “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.”
  5. To love others — including my enemies
    Mark 12:31 — “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
    Matthew 5:44 — “Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you…”
  6. To forgive — without exception
    Matthew 6:14-15 — “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you…”
  7. To ask for wisdom and understanding
    James 1:5 — “If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God… and it will be given to him.”
  8. To let my words and thoughts honor God
    Psalm 19:14 — “Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in Your sight…”
  9. To receive a new heart and spirit from God
    Ezekiel 36:26 — “I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you…”
  10. To experience dreams, visions, and Spirit-led direction
    Joel 2:28 — “Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams…”
  11. To see healing, deliverance, and miracles according to God’s power
    Mark 16:17-18 — “These signs will follow those who believe… they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
  12. To pray for revival — that God would heal the land
    2 Chronicles 7:14 — “If My people… humble themselves and pray… I will hear from heaven and heal their land.”
  13. To expose darkness, not make peace with it
    Ephesians 5:11 — “Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.”
  14. To ask boldly, knowing nothing is impossible with God
    Luke 1:37 — “For with God nothing will be impossible.”
    Ephesians 3:20 — “Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think…”

Part 2 — Acknowledging What God CAN Do: Letting Go of Limits

Here’s where we stretch our minds a bit.
Not everything below is something we must pray for — but all of it reminds us:


God is not small.
He is not limited.
And we shouldn’t be afraid to believe for BIG things, because He is a BIG God.​

  1. God can restore lands, ecosystems, and even entire planets if He chooses
    Isaiah 51:3 — “He will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the Lord…”
  2. God can bring back extinct animals, if He desires
    Job 12:10 — “In His hand is the life of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.”
    Ezekiel 37:6 — “I will put sinews on you… and you shall live.”
  3. God can create entirely new creatures, species, or lifeforms for His glory
    Isaiah 65:17 — “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth…”
  4. God can cleanse pollution, heal the environment, and reverse decay
    Romans 8:21 — “The creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption…”
  5. God can stop storms, move mountains, and override nature’s laws
    Mark 4:39 — “He arose and rebuked the wind… and there was a great calm.”
  6. God can bring life to what’s dead — physically, emotionally, spiritually
    Ezekiel 37:5 — “Surely I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live.”
  7. God can give wisdom and even technology to help lead people to Him
    Proverbs 8:12 — “I, wisdom, dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.”
  8. God can create from nothing — speaking things into existence
    Romans 4:17 — “God… calls those things which do not exist as though they did.”

✝️ My Final Declaration

I don’t want to live like I serve a small God.
I don’t want to keep Him in a box made by fear, tradition, doubt, or human logic.
I want to believe Him for everything He’s able to do — and walk in everything He’s called me to.


So today, I choose to take this oath:


  • To trust the God of the impossible.
  • To ask for what He desires.
  • To dream bigger and believe bolder.
  • To stop boxing in the One who created the heavens and the earth.

In the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God,
Amen.
 
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"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they." - Hebrews 1:1-4 NKJV

"Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him." - 1 John 5:14-15 NKJV

"Two things I request of You
(Deprive me not before I die):
Remove falsehood and lies far from me;
Give me neither poverty nor riches—
Feed me with the food allotted to me;
Lest I be full and deny You,
And say, 'Who is the Lord?'
Or lest I be poor and steal,
And profane the name of my God." - Proverbs 30:7-9 NKJV
 
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OATH: No More Putting God in a Box
A Personal Commitment to Trust the Unlimited Power and Will of God

Have you ever caught yourself saying or thinking something like:


“That’s too big to pray for…”​
“I don’t think God would really do that…”​
“It’s probably not possible…”​

Here’s a thought:
What if we’ve been putting God in a box?


Not on purpose. Not out of rebellion.
But maybe out of fear… doubt… tradition… or just forgetting how limitless He really is.


This isn't a guilt trip.
It's a wake-up call — for all of us.
Not to shame ourselves, but to stretch our faith, honor God's greatness, and start praying, living, and believing like we truly know who He is.


So I offer this oath — not as a rule, but as a response.
To say: “God, I don’t want to limit You anymore. I want to trust You fully and ask boldly — according to Your will.”


Part 1 — What I Choose to Ask For: The Things God WANTS Me to Ask

These are things God has made clear in His Word that He desires for us to pursue, pray for, and live out.


  1. To live like Jesus
    1 John 2:6 — “He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.”
  2. To obey God's commands
    John 14:15 — “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
  3. To walk in the fruit of the Spirit, not the flesh
    Galatians 5:22-23 — “The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control…”
  4. To love God with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength
    Mark 12:30 — “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.”
  5. To love others — including my enemies
    Mark 12:31 — “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
    Matthew 5:44 — “Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you…”
  6. To forgive — without exception
    Matthew 6:14-15 — “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you…”
  7. To ask for wisdom and understanding
    James 1:5 — “If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God… and it will be given to him.”
  8. To let my words and thoughts honor God
    Psalm 19:14 — “Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in Your sight…”
  9. To receive a new heart and spirit from God
    Ezekiel 36:26 — “I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you…”
  10. To experience dreams, visions, and Spirit-led direction
    Joel 2:28 — “Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams…”
  11. To see healing, deliverance, and miracles according to God’s power
    Mark 16:17-18 — “These signs will follow those who believe… they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
  12. To pray for revival — that God would heal the land
    2 Chronicles 7:14 — “If My people… humble themselves and pray… I will hear from heaven and heal their land.”
  13. To expose darkness, not make peace with it
    Ephesians 5:11 — “Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.”
  14. To ask boldly, knowing nothing is impossible with God
    Luke 1:37 — “For with God nothing will be impossible.”
    Ephesians 3:20 — “Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think…”

Part 2 — Acknowledging What God CAN Do: Letting Go of Limits

Here’s where we stretch our minds a bit.
Not everything below is something we must pray for — but all of it reminds us:


God is not small.
He is not limited.
And we shouldn’t be afraid to believe for BIG things, because He is a BIG God.​

  1. God can restore lands, ecosystems, and even entire planets if He chooses
    Isaiah 51:3 — “He will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the Lord…”
  2. God can bring back extinct animals, if He desires
    Job 12:10 — “In His hand is the life of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.”
    Ezekiel 37:6 — “I will put sinews on you… and you shall live.”
  3. God can create entirely new creatures, species, or lifeforms for His glory
    Isaiah 65:17 — “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth…”
  4. God can cleanse pollution, heal the environment, and reverse decay
    Romans 8:21 — “The creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption…”
  5. God can stop storms, move mountains, and override nature’s laws
    Mark 4:39 — “He arose and rebuked the wind… and there was a great calm.”
  6. God can bring life to what’s dead — physically, emotionally, spiritually
    Ezekiel 37:5 — “Surely I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live.”
  7. God can give wisdom and even technology to help lead people to Him
    Proverbs 8:12 — “I, wisdom, dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.”
  8. God can create from nothing — speaking things into existence
    Romans 4:17 — “God… calls those things which do not exist as though they did.”

✝️ My Final Declaration

I don’t want to live like I serve a small God.
I don’t want to keep Him in a box made by fear, tradition, doubt, or human logic.
I want to believe Him for everything He’s able to do — and walk in everything He’s called me to.


So today, I choose to take this oath:


  • To trust the God of the impossible.
  • To ask for what He desires.
  • To dream bigger and believe bolder.
  • To stop boxing in the One who created the heavens and the earth.

In the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God,​
Amen.
Yes, nevertheless Father your will be done over mine, as I know I have gotten confused and deceived before, taking all thought captive now to Son Jesus's obedience, that you rose from the dead for us all to stand in trust to you through, loving us all, not a few thank you.
 
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OATH: No More Putting God in a Box
A Personal Commitment to Trust the Unlimited Power and Will of God

Have you ever caught yourself saying or thinking something like:


“That’s too big to pray for…”
“I don’t think God would really do that…”
“It’s probably not possible…”​

Here’s a thought:
What if we’ve been putting God in a box?


Not on purpose. Not out of rebellion.
But maybe out of fear… doubt… tradition… or just forgetting how limitless He really is.


This isn't a guilt trip.
It's a wake-up call — for all of us.
Not to shame ourselves, but to stretch our faith, honor God's greatness, and start praying, living, and believing like we truly know who He is.


So I offer this oath — not as a rule, but as a response.
To say: “God, I don’t want to limit You anymore. I want to trust You fully and ask boldly — according to Your will.”


Part 1 — What I Choose to Ask For: The Things God WANTS Me to Ask

These are things God has made clear in His Word that He desires for us to pursue, pray for, and live out.


  1. To live like Jesus
    1 John 2:6 — “He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.”
  2. To obey God's commands
    John 14:15 — “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
  3. To walk in the fruit of the Spirit, not the flesh
    Galatians 5:22-23 — “The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control…”
  4. To love God with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength
    Mark 12:30 — “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.”
  5. To love others — including my enemies
    Mark 12:31 — “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
    Matthew 5:44 — “Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you…”
  6. To forgive — without exception
    Matthew 6:14-15 — “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you…”
  7. To ask for wisdom and understanding
    James 1:5 — “If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God… and it will be given to him.”
  8. To let my words and thoughts honor God
    Psalm 19:14 — “Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in Your sight…”
  9. To receive a new heart and spirit from God
    Ezekiel 36:26 — “I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you…”
  10. To experience dreams, visions, and Spirit-led direction
    Joel 2:28 — “Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams…”
  11. To see healing, deliverance, and miracles according to God’s power
    Mark 16:17-18 — “These signs will follow those who believe… they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
  12. To pray for revival — that God would heal the land
    2 Chronicles 7:14 — “If My people… humble themselves and pray… I will hear from heaven and heal their land.”
  13. To expose darkness, not make peace with it
    Ephesians 5:11 — “Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.”
  14. To ask boldly, knowing nothing is impossible with God
    Luke 1:37 — “For with God nothing will be impossible.”
    Ephesians 3:20 — “Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think…”

Part 2 — Acknowledging What God CAN Do: Letting Go of Limits

Here’s where we stretch our minds a bit.
Not everything below is something we must pray for — but all of it reminds us:


God is not small.
He is not limited.
And we shouldn’t be afraid to believe for BIG things, because He is a BIG God.​

  1. God can restore lands, ecosystems, and even entire planets if He chooses
    Isaiah 51:3 — “He will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the Lord…”
  2. God can bring back extinct animals, if He desires
    Job 12:10 — “In His hand is the life of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.”
    Ezekiel 37:6 — “I will put sinews on you… and you shall live.”
  3. God can create entirely new creatures, species, or lifeforms for His glory
    Isaiah 65:17 — “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth…”
  4. God can cleanse pollution, heal the environment, and reverse decay
    Romans 8:21 — “The creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption…”
  5. God can stop storms, move mountains, and override nature’s laws
    Mark 4:39 — “He arose and rebuked the wind… and there was a great calm.”
  6. God can bring life to what’s dead — physically, emotionally, spiritually
    Ezekiel 37:5 — “Surely I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live.”
  7. God can give wisdom and even technology to help lead people to Him
    Proverbs 8:12 — “I, wisdom, dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.”
  8. God can create from nothing — speaking things into existence
    Romans 4:17 — “God… calls those things which do not exist as though they did.”

✝️ My Final Declaration

I don’t want to live like I serve a small God.
I don’t want to keep Him in a box made by fear, tradition, doubt, or human logic.
I want to believe Him for everything He’s able to do — and walk in everything He’s called me to.


So today, I choose to take this oath:


  • To trust the God of the impossible.
  • To ask for what He desires.
  • To dream bigger and believe bolder.
  • To stop boxing in the One who created the heavens and the earth.

In the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God,
Amen.
Well we can simplify prayers by following the example of Jesus for God’s will to be done but it gets complicated when Christians won’t agree regarding what God’s Word teaches.
 
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Thanks for the thoughtful replies, everyone!
I really appreciate the Scripture you shared and the humility in your responses. That’s exactly the heart this oath is aiming for—trusting God fully, yet with a surrendered spirit that says, “Not my will, but Yours be done” (Luke 22:42).


I totally agree, following Jesus’ example and praying according to God’s will is the foundation. As 1 John 5:14 reminds us, “if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.” And yes, sometimes we wrestle with confusion or differences in understanding—like Paul said in Romans 14:1, “Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters.”


My hope with this oath is simply to get us thinking: Are we truly believing God can do anything? Or have we boxed Him in with our doubts or limited thinking? Remember, “with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:26), and “God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think” (Ephesians 3:20).


It’s not about having all the answers or being perfect, but about opening our hearts to expect more from God and trusting Him boldly (Hebrews 11:6).


Would love to hear how you all wrestle with this in your own faith journey!
 
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Thanks for the thoughtful replies, everyone!
I really appreciate the Scripture you shared and the humility in your responses. That’s exactly the heart this oath is aiming for—trusting God fully, yet with a surrendered spirit that says, “Not my will, but Yours be done” (Luke 22:42).


I totally agree, following Jesus’ example and praying according to God’s will is the foundation. As 1 John 5:14 reminds us, “if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.” And yes, sometimes we wrestle with confusion or differences in understanding—like Paul said in Romans 14:1, “Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters.”


My hope with this oath is simply to get us thinking: Are we truly believing God can do anything? Or have we boxed Him in with our doubts or limited thinking? Remember, “with God all things are possible” (Matthew 19:26), and “God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think” (Ephesians 3:20).


It’s not about having all the answers or being perfect, but about opening our hearts to expect more from God and trusting Him boldly (Hebrews 11:6).


Would love to hear how you all wrestle with this in your own faith journey!
Well, when I was young and dumb I wrestled with why God did not work miracles in my experience
as other Christians claimed he did in theirs, but as I learned GW I realized that we all walk by faith
and not by sight/proof or from miracle to miracle, and that the evidence of Spirit baptism and filling
is loving fruit rather than speaking in tongues, so I put more faith in Scripture than in such claims.

As I developed a Scripture-based apologetic against atheism, I connected dots that I call the
Propensity Principle in Part IV of Lesson 1 on our website: <truthseekersfellowship.com> which IMO proves the need for God.
 
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Isa 40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

Isa 40:29 He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.

Isa 40:30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall:

Isa 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
 
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Yes, the closest we can come to boxing in God is by applying biblical attributes as follows:

If the NT is not too good to be true, then the Lord of the universe is neither dictatorial nor distant, but rather relates to humanity. Although we cannot comprehend the infinite God completely, hopefully we can do so sufficiently in order to achieve the type of relationship God desires to have with humanity (JN 14:9-25). God desires communion.

1. God’s omnipotence means that He can do everything except “disown Himself” or not be God (2TM 2:13). It does NOT mean that God can perform logical absurdities, such as creating a rock too large for Him to move. Omnipotence or sovereignty also means that human MFW has limits with regard to how it can contradict God’s will. God provides morally competent humans the ability to resist His intentional will and plan of salvation (POS) within limits, such as the time limit that will end with death, resurrection (the last miracle) and judgment (per HB 9:27)–called His permissive will.

2. God’s power is equivalent to His omniscience. Jeremiah wrote that “God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom.” (JR 10:12) Many NT passages refer to God as the source of true wisdom (e.g., ACTS 6:3, 1CR 1:25, CL 2:2-3, JM 1:5). God’s infinitely superior knowledge is extolled in Romans 11:33-34 (echoing IS 40:13-14) and Daniel 2:20-23.

Omniscience includes knowledge of people’s thoughts (PS 94:11, MT 12:25) and the foreknowledge of events (ACTS 2:23, RM 8:29, 11:2, 1PT 1:2). Some people think that God even knows what a person will be/do before that person exists (JR 1:5). If this view is correct (which I find incomprehensible a la Kant), it must be maintained that God’s foreknowledge does not predetermine a person’s spiritual choice regarding the satisfaction of God’s requirement for salvation or else moral responsibility would be abrogated. I find it simpler to think that God merely tweaks the river of history occasionally to keep if flowing in the direction He intends but allows the fish to swim as they wish. (Surely this universe is not a replay of a history that has already happened!) God allows eddies in the river of salvation.

3. Omnipotence is connected with omnitemporality (in RV 1:18): “I am the Apha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Romans 1:20 refers to God’s “eternal power”, and Jeremiah 10:10&16 names God “the Lord Almighty”, who is true, living and eternal.

4. God’s infinite power implies omnipresence (per PS 139:7-8). God transcends spatial existence while being immanent in all points of space. (Other scriptural support for this view includes 1KG 8:27, IS 66:1, JR 23:33, ACTS 17:27-28 and EPH 4:6.) God’s superiority over His creation must be viewed as a matter of degree or quantitatively in order to preserve the continuity between God and humanity that would be requisite for communication (like the need for a common language and culture cited in Part I). However, the Bible teaches that God also differs from creatures in kind or qualitatively, so that attaining equality with Deity is impossible (IS 55:9, EPH 3:19). We can be like God (GN 3:3), and we can become one with the Son of God (JN 17:21-23), but we cannot become God (cf. Humanism).

In addition to the omni-attributes related to power, Paul referred to God’s “nature” (in RM 1:20), which may be described in three ways: love, truth and justice. These often are called the moral attributes of God.

5. The Bible says that God is love and true love comes from God (1JN 4:7-21, RM 5:5), so volitional creatures or souls can love only by reflecting, imitating or cooperating with the Creator’s love. Although the Bible speaks of God hating Esau (ML 1:3) and other evil people (HS 9:15), Jesus’ teaching of love for enemies (MT 5:44) reveals that God loves all creatures including Satan but hates their sinful choices (EZK 33:11). Seven NT Scriptural pearls teach divine omnilove: 1JN 4:7-12, RM 5:8, MT 5:44&48, GL 5:6&14, EPH 3:17b-19, EPH 5:2 and 1TM 2:3-4.

It seems logical to assume that the all-loving God would create the best possible world or one in which the greatest percentage of persons may attain ultimate joy (1TM 2:3-4, 2PT 3:9). God may have created all possible kinds of worlds simultaneously: the world of dead matter, the world of living plants, the world of intelligent animals, and the world of morally accountable souls/humans. God’s world/way is best.

6. The Bible teaches that God is truth (JN 1:17, 8:40, 15:26, 17:17), so all truth is from God and manifests God’s Spirit. If any atheists are truthseekers, then they are not far from the kingdom of God (MK 12:34, 2THS 2:10, JN 18:37), because Jesus promised that those who seek will find (LK 11:9&13). Of course, if the truth is that there is no God or heaven, then what we believe is no more significant than the ideology of a rock or some other evolved collection of atoms (ECC 3:20)! Truth or God’s Word is represented in the Bible as light (JN 1:1-9), which also signifies God’s glory (LK 2:9).

7. The Bible also teaches that God is justness or righteousness (RM 3:25-26, 9:14, 2THS 1:6). This doctrine is called theodicy. It means that we should be careful lest our explanations of God’s will seem unloving or unfair. If a person cannot explain how a loving God could order the execution of babies (JSH 6:17, 8:2), then possibly He did not do so. Another synonym for justness is goodness (IS 5:16).

Atheists have a negative or evil conception of God, which may be caused or reinforced by the words and deeds of those who claim to be theists (RM 2:24, 2PT 2:2). Who would want to believe in such a God? Rather than reject a caricature of God, an atheist should imagine the most perfect, loving and just God that he/she can, and choose to disbelieve in that benevolent Being, if good reason to do so can be found. God is NOT demonic!

(Apologies for not changing the citation format.)
 
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God, does not live in boxes or buildings. God is as like the wind, where it comes from no one really knows and where it goes next, no one really knows that either. Man, can only try to predict, and has been doing that for ages, God got people out of the box religion, that, they were in and man rebuilt it, once the Temple was destroyed in AD 70, saying, this be the new Church where God lives, rebuilt by man, who still plays as if God, using God for their own benefit, and is why to me I see why Paul wrote Phil 3 Explaining the freedom given us to love in mercy and truth to everyone, not accuse, abuse or even excuse, thank you Father and Son.
Now, that is how God has gotten put in a box is by man religion, when God is not in a box, or religious, never has been, yet man continues to trap people under them, with another preacher, preaching to them. There, are few I have ever known as sincere, most under Law (Hebrews 8:1-4). Now, wasn't it the Religious leaders leading people incorrectly then? Isn't that why Jesus came here in person, to reveal sin to them? Then take all sin away on the cross in Father. Daddy's, PaPa's sight? Done one time forever (John 1:29, 19:30)(Hebrews 10:10) that is given once for all to now ask and believe God in new life in God's Spirit and Truth of risen Son Jesus, for us each? to all that believe God sincerely see this from God to them, humbly
Matthew 12:7
But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Matthew 24:43
But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
1 Corinthians 2:8
which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Mark 3:27
No man can enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.

Did Jesus win? He is risen, that be where he won, you think, I assuredly know this to me by God for me and am not boastful, I Appreciate Father and Son as Won, I can be free to love all and not accuse anyone or excuse anyone, especially myself Thanks
Col. 2
 
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You know, something Jesus said has really stuck with me:

“Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 18:3)

Jesus wasn’t calling us to be childish—but childlike. And what do children do? They dream big. They ask their father for the moon without worrying whether it’s too much. They trust. They imagine. And Jesus said that’s the kind of faith that fits the kingdom.

Sometimes I hear people say, “God wouldn’t do that,” or “That’s not His will,” when someone prays for something unusual or imaginative—like asking for something brand new, even things we don’t fully understand. And I get where they’re coming from—there’s wisdom in wanting to ask with right motives. But I think sometimes we forget that our Heavenly Father delights in giving good gifts, even beyond what we can imagine.

Jesus said:
“If you, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!” (Matthew 7:11)

He wasn’t just talking about bread or daily needs—He was talking about the nature of God’s generous heart. He doesn’t hand out stones when we come to Him in trust.

Now of course, Scripture warns that God doesn’t honor prayers that come from fleshly motives. James 4:3 says:
“You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions.”

But we need to let God define what the flesh is, not just our assumptions. Galatians 5:19–21 lays it out:
“The works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, idolatry, jealousy, selfish ambition, envy...”

Asking for something beautiful, good, or imaginative isn’t necessarily “fleshly.” It’s the motive behind the asking that matters. Are we asking from selfish ambition? Or are we asking like a child who simply believes their Father can do anything?

In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit—“love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control” (Galatians 5:22–23)—are the signs that our hearts are aligned with Him. And when we ask from that place, even for wild or creative things, it honors His heart.

I’m not trying to push anyone or say people are wrong—I just want to share that I believe God is bigger than we often give Him credit for. He’s not limited by our traditions or what we’ve seen so far. Like the wind, His Spirit moves in ways we can’t predict (John 3:8), and He delights in surprising His children.

So rather than saying, “God can’t or won’t,” maybe we just need to keep seeking Him like children—with open hearts, wonder, and trust—because our Father loves when we come to Him like that.
 

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OATH: No More Putting God in a Box
"But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one." Matthew 5:34-37
 
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There is under Law, under the curse being in flesh nature first, before born new by God for us all to choose to believe God or not in all things or not. Then begin to see new in the risen Son, to me at least, thanking Father and Son for the gift of eternal life, wow Isaiah 6:1-7

There is above the Law, flesh taking charge in, I am right you are wrong, and will not budge, or listen to others. I see listen, and take all to Daddy, PaPa, Father in prayer trust, and one, anyone will hear truth over the errors in this world we, all each are in still physically, learning the new you given you by God for you in risen Son to you.

There is "Upholding Law" seeing what under Law does. It brings forth sin in the first born flesh person with "I am right, you are wrong" flesh attitudes
I see the Law as perfect, good and best for me and anyone else to do. Yet I see Sin takes occasion by the command to not do. Sin then sets itself in people of flesh, not born again yet in God's Spirit and Truth, to fight argue and ensue others. Not good for my soul to do that. I see as I see Father, Daddy, PaPa do, just love you
Yeah humbling me, to be willing to be led by Daddy, Father, PaPa only in risen Son for me where I am forgiven, reconciled by God through Son Jesus
Wow, I can't do anything else but love all as am loved first by God 1 John 4:18-19
 
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"But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one." Matthew 5:34-37
tell me please, are you we today looking back to the cross or forward to happening. is it done, we are no longer under Law? Now in love and mercy given us
Hebrews 7:11-12 Doesn't God's love fulfill Law? Are we under Law or do we now uphold Law, one defines the other to me at least, just asking
 

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I don’t want to live like I serve a small God.
I don’t want to keep Him in a box made by fear, tradition, doubt, or human logic.
I want to believe Him for everything He’s able to do — and walk in everything He’s called me to.


So today, I choose to take this oath:


  • To trust the God of the impossible.
  • To ask for what He desires.
  • To dream bigger and believe bolder.
  • To stop boxing in the One who created the heavens and the earth.
God, does not live in boxes or buildings. God is as like the wind, where it comes from no one really knows and where it goes next, no one really knows that either. Man, can only try to predict, and has been doing that for ages, God got people out of the box religion, that, they were in and man rebuilt it, once the Temple was destroyed in AD 70, saying, this be the new Church where God lives, rebuilt by man, who still plays as if God, using God for their own benefit, and is why to me I see why Paul wrote Phil 3 Explaining the freedom given us to love in mercy and truth to everyone, not accuse, abuse or even excuse, thank you Father and Son.
Now, that is how God has gotten put in a box is by man religion, when God is not in a box, or religious, never has been, yet man continues to trap people under them, with another preacher, preaching to them.





It was Jesus who came and explained this principle to us and the error of Moses, who quite literally thought he carted God around in a box. And I don't care if the idea is upsetting to some, it's the truth folks need to hear. There's a reason he was never granted access to the Promised Land and if we don't learn from the example he provided (we can and should learn from both bad and good examples) then it is us who should be ashamed, and not him at all. Because Moses did learn. -And he gave us his amazing writings to tell the story and give us that example of error that we should learn from.

Sadly, the Jews did not learn. They still cling to Moses. But even more sad are the Christians that do the same and worse, while claiming to follow the Christ and claiming to know better than the Jews.
 
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It was Jesus who came and explained this principle to us and the error of Moses, who quite literally thought he carted God around in a box. And I don't care if the idea is upsetting to some, it's the truth folks need to hear. There's a reason he was never granted access to the Promised Land and if we don't learn from the example he provided (we can and should learn from both bad and good examples) then it is us who should be ashamed, and not him at all. Because Moses did learn. -And he gave us his amazing writings to tell the story and give us that example of error that we should learn from.

Sadly, the Jews did not learn. They still cling to Moses. But even more sad are the Christians that do the same and worse, while claiming to follow the Christ and claiming to know better than the Jews.
Moses, did see though

Authorized (King James) Version

Deuteronomy 18:15-22

15 The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 16 according to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Lordmy God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 17 And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. 19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? 22 when a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

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Hebrews 1:1-4

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4 being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Authorized (King James) Version

Hebrews 4:9-13

9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Seeing God is sharper than any two-edged sword, tells me deeply, about two edged swords, seen two sides, a good side and a bad side, people continue arguing over I am right sand you are wrong, then gatherings, we are right you are wrong. When God is sharper that good or evil of people here on earth. seeing truth from God as in Matthew 10:16-20 and Luke 21:14-15, and 21:1-4 God reveals truth in letting go of self wanting to be right anymore over others claiming they are right, thanks