Should We Bring Back Diaries?!! (Oversharing On the Internet.)

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Hey Everyone,

I recently listened to a video entitled, "Bring Back Diaries!"

In it, the host presented several clips of people COMPLETELY OVERSHARING on social media. Some of the "stories" were so vile -- often dealing with bathroom/hygiene issues -- that I couldn't finish them, and had to skip through most of them just to listen to the host's commentary.

In it, she makes the case that if people want to share extremely personal information, they should go back to things like writing in a private diary (journaling,) instead of sharing it all over the internet.

But there is also the issue that many people are saying or making up shocking things to drive up views, with the hopes of monetary gain.

Now, I'm sure there have been many times I've shared too much in my posts, but I'm sure not going to start talking about the details of a trip to the bathroom while on a break between posts!

I do find it an interesting balance though, because I like hearing people's personal stories. I wouldn't quite be myself if I wasn't exposed to tales of real people sharing their very real lives. And I appreciate it when people share things such as their journey through cancer (it helps me learn how to try to help others with serious illnesses,) and a myriad of other life situations.

I also love hearing passionate people talk about their charity and missionary work, particularly the hardships and challenges they face (because I hate presentations that are all highlight reels.)

I know most Christians will quote the passage about not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing (Matthew 6:3,4) so some say people should NEVER talk about their good deeds, but I've always seen this passage as a matter of motivation.

In the context around this passage, Jesus said that those who are seeking human approval are getting their reward (but not a heavenly one.)

So I've always thought that if someone doesn't have approval as a motive for sharing, but rather, education and bringing awareness, I am more than happy to listen. I find it to be great motivation for myself, along with informing me of new opportunities I might have otherwise never thought about.

But if it crosses the lines into preaching (talking down to the audience,) self-pity, or begging, I'm tuning out.

What are your thoughts about how much one should, or shouldn't share online (and maybe in general?)

Anyone of any status is welcome to answer, but I posted this here because I thought maybe more singles are exposed to oversharing (lonely people pouring their hearts out to us.) However, I could be completely wrong.

Whether you are married or single, I am interested in your thoughts about this topic!

* Do you ever find yourself watching, reading, or hearing something online and cringing over how much that person is sharing?

* What do you think are some basic guidelines for what can and cannot be shared?

* What kinds of things do you like to hear people share about -- and when does it become too much?

* What should people do if they feel a NEED to share, and praying alone isn't quenching it? (Should they just write in a journal, tell only closest friends, etc.?)

I'm thinking though that many people post online because of a need to share -- and a need for attention -- and this isn't met with prayer or a journal.

* Are there any healthy ways of meeting a need for attention through sharing?

* Have YOU ever wanted to start your own social media account? (Blog, YouTube channel, etc.?) If so, or if you have already, what are your own "rules" for what you do and do not share?
 
But you can't shock a diary. Unless you "accidentally" leave it out for people to sneak a peek.

Social media ain't got nothing on the girls at the job though. They'll talk about anything, up to and including complaining about their husbands' performance in bed. :rolleyes:
 
Diaries never really left. Their name was changed to, Journal.

A lawyer friend of mine was asked by their daughter if they should start journaling.

Her mom-attorney, answered with very legal advice. Just remember dear , anything you put in writing can be later used in court against you.

I think when social media has gotten people in trouble,that an online diary or journal would be just as risky.
If someone feels the need to eep a diary, journal , keep it locked and hidden.
 
I tried to start a journal because I heard from multiple sources that it helps with stress and anxiety. It seemed to help a little but then I didn't feel like doing it anymore. I've tried starting journals before just to try and document the things I've done like road trips to do some landscape photograph or when I used to go planespotting, but those journals were short-lived as well. I guess I'm just not a journalist(?)
 
Diaries never really left. Their name was changed to, Journal.

A lawyer friend of mine was asked by their daughter if they should start journaling.

Her mom-attorney, answered with very legal advice. Just remember dear , anything you put in writing can be later used in court against you.

I think when social media has gotten people in trouble,that an online diary or journal would be just as risky.
If someone feels the need to eep a diary, journal , keep it locked and hidden.
Reminds me of a speech Randall Monroe (xkcd author) once made. He introduced himself as, "My name is Randall Monroe and I come from the internet."

(Smart aleck in the crowd) Which part?

"Well I grew up in a small town in LiveJournal..."
 
I've been in a few relationships in my life, what I've cringed at the most in my time online is when I find out that something is being overshared about me lol. Especially when it's exaggerated to where it's not like me at all. I remember several years ago running into a public blog post by someone I was in a relationship with at the time. I was stunned by what I read and confronted them privately about it. This caused at least 2 months of silence between us. I thought surely something wouldn't happen like that again, but unfortunately it definitely has happened again.
I'm a very private person, so I don't share very much at all. I don't use social media very much. I have a facebook account mostly because that's how I keep in touch with my best friend. ChristianChat is the best place for anyone to find anything out about me, and I don't reveal all that much except food 😂

In my spare time, I really get into true crime. I've been into true crime for a very long time. I think it's good for victims to overshare their stories. I think it helps to understand what happened and how others can use that knowledge to protect themselves. Also, I'm sure it can be cathartic for them as well. I also think it helps other victims to get help and heal.

Me personally, I keep a private online journal. I started keeping a journal in grade school. I did this off and on until about 8 years ago when I made a daily habit of keeping a journal. I don't need anyone's attention for the details of my life and I don't need views or thumbies. I just like to privately journal my day. It helps me to have a place to release feelings and frustrations that I'm having, and to also keep an account of my daily life. There's been times I've been away and had to keep a physical journal. It's good that I always have notebooks with me lol. I have several physical journals that I've kept. I've joked to myself that someone might find them after I'm dead and make a movie about me. I'll be gone to the great wilderness beyond and I won't care if someone else overshares my life lol.
 
I don't do online personal journals.
Private journals with personal thoughts are only for me myself and I.
I keep an online garden diary /blog but only because I want to keep track of what I've planted and where, and compare seasons.
Everything else online is for public consumption, usually either entertaining or edifying in some way, to connect people or maybe I just feel like having fun.
If talking about someone I won't give their names, I keep that anonymous to respect their privacy. Jesus was always telling in his parables 'a certain man' i.e meaning someone he knew, (who might have done something embarassing or questionable behaviour) as an illustration of whatever spiritual truth he wanted to convey. But he would never say, well Peter did this and that and is being a pain or Judas stole from me. Well I can't picture him doing that.

Or writing in a diary opinions about other people like a mean girls burn book. And I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be doing a gossipy prayer circle/group either. Some things are between you and God.

I think everyone likes to be the centre of their own story, and that's ok but not everyone else needs to know what you had for breakfast lunch and dinner and your bowel habits unless they are your doctor or something. Bridget Jones only kept a diary because she was trying to monitor how many cigarettes she smoked and how much weight she had gained or lost lol. It's a conceit that it's published for anyone to read.

Anne Frank's diary was for herself (and Kitty) alone as she was isolated and had nobody to confide in, and you dont' want to tell your parents everything. It was only by miracle or accident that it was ever published, because she and almost all her family perished in the holocaust.
 
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I tried to start a journal because I heard from multiple sources that it helps with stress and anxiety. It seemed to help a little but then I didn't feel like doing it anymore. I've tried starting journals before just to try and document the things I've done like road trips to do some landscape photograph or when I used to go planespotting, but those journals were short-lived as well. I guess I'm just not a journalist(?)

I remember starting a diary/journal when I was 9 years old.

My goal, even then, was to keep a collection of writings for when I got older and had kids of my own. I thought that looking back on how I thought as a kid, teen, and while I was growing up would help me understand my own kids. I kept it up through college.

Then I went through my divorce and later ripped every last page up, lol. I can laugh about it now, but I obviously wasn't laughing at the time.

When I found out years later that he had kids with his new wife, I didn't really want to remember anything about the past -- and got rid of all my diaries and most of my pictures.

Part of it I felt was directed by God -- I was trying to clean the slate.

I think journaling can be great for some people though, and I have to admit, I still love looking at all the interesting-looking journals and writing supplies in the stores.
 
There are a few journaling YouTubers I enjoy following, but it's all about how to set up/design your journal, rather than sharing what's in it.

It's crazy to me though how EVERY hobby winds up being so over-commercialized that no one can afford to do it anymore (that is, if they're keeping up with all the "latest" accessories.)

I remember when scrapbooking and bullet journaling took off, then going in the stores and being overwhelmed by all the "update" packs in every season, holiday, and theme imaginable -- and wondering how on earth anyone could keep up!
 
There are a few journaling YouTubers I enjoy following, but it's all about how to set up/design your journal, rather than sharing what's in it.

It's crazy to me though how EVERY hobby winds up being so over-commercialized that no one can afford to do it anymore (that is, if they're keeping up with all the "latest" accessories.)

I remember when scrapbooking and bullet journaling took off, then going in the stores and being overwhelmed by all the "update" packs in every season, holiday, and theme imaginable -- and wondering how on earth anyone could keep up!
I saw some of those youtubers with their beautiful journals and wanted to journal like that but then I realized I have no life and have nothing worthy of putting in a journal like that. 😄
 
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I like to look back for many major events, now I am more and more convinced God lead every step, there is no coincidence.

Every new life birth, moving, study, job, finding God, dating, marriage, call to heaven, ....all planned by God.

We do have responsibility too. It is a mystery.
 
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But you can't shock a diary. Unless you "accidentally" leave it out for people to sneak a peek.

For those seeking it, I do think the social interaction component is a crucial one, and obviously not something a private diary/journal can address.

I'm honestly surprised the YouTube host didn't seem to mention this (maybe I missed it when I was skipping through those horrible hygiene stories!) People are obviously addicted to reactions, and I'm not sure what could replace that for them.

I myself have to admit that I am most definitely addicted to the social part.

The whole reason I write threads and not in a private journal is because I like the interactions with other people. But I like a very specific type of interaction -- group conversation -- not only with me, but between the other members of the audience.

People have often suggested that I start a blog, YouTube, or write a book, but I wouldn't be interested in any of those things because my whole purpose is to start group discussions.

Even I would become bored to tears at just sitting around talking one-sidedly to an audience ALL the time (and imagine what torture it would be for them!) I know some of my posts might seem like that, but my goal is to inspire other people to share by being open myself.

I also love threads because people can just skip through what doesn't interest them -- but they still have the option to participate.
 
There are a few journaling YouTubers I enjoy following, but it's all about how to set up/design your journal, rather than sharing what's in it.

It's crazy to me though how EVERY hobby winds up being so over-commercialized that no one can afford to do it anymore (that is, if they're keeping up with all the "latest" accessories.)

I remember when scrapbooking and bullet journaling took off, then going in the stores and being overwhelmed by all the "update" packs in every season, holiday, and theme imaginable -- and wondering how on earth anyone could keep up!

I find all that overwhelming too. I'm just a simple notebook kind of a gal. I usually either wait until Back-to-School sales to get notebooks, etc. for a good price or I go to my favorite thrift shop and shop their stationary area.
 
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I was clearing up some of my mums stuff last night, stuff under the bed (shoes she never wore) and in the closet (clothes I never saw her wear!) my sister and I were dusting things off and putting them in bags to donate to the hospice shop if they were in good condition, bagging and binning them if they weren't.

In one box was I actually found one of my journals! Cringe. Had my mum found it in my room and read it, then hid it under her bed?? My sister just handed it to me, had no interest in reading it. I looked at my messing writing and all the agonies I had poured out on the page. I hope mum didn't read it, and even if she did, promptly forgot it!

Fictional diaries are actually quite popular for kids, They want to write about what they know basically because sometimes coming up with fantastic plots is too hard. Hence Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Dork Diaries, Dear Dumb Diary..etc. Diary of a Wimpy kids was actually Jeff Kinney's look back on his life as a kid and was originally meant for adults, but kids embraced it. So theres now 15 books and counting, though Greg Heffley, the diarist, seems to have stopped aging. He's permanently 12 years old.

Confessional literature also has its place. I mean I've always been fascinated with the Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath. Her own journals got published and it's interesting to read what it was like for a young woman living in the 1950s coming of age in America and what it was like for her. They were only published after she took her life though. She suffered mental illness (depression) but she was a brilliant writer.

Imagine it wasn't too long ago that being published was an exclusive thing for men. Female writers had to go under pseudonyms to be heard, if they wrote anything that was controversial. I mean Jane Austen wrote but she had privelige and money on her side.

The whole 'journal the Bible' craze was a bit disingenous. Who got time to illuminate their Bible with pretty flounces etc. I agree it became a commercial thing to pretty up your Bible, having to buy all this stuff to go along with it. I just have a notebook to write in your can buy for 10 cents.

Sorry its all a bit disjointed..I don't really have a point. I just like to overshare. No actually I just like to write it keeps me out of trouble. :ROFL:
 
'Freedom Writers' was an inspirational movie for some, (it was based on the book The Freedom Writer's Diary) but many teachers saw it as a bane because they couldn't live up to her (Erin Gruwell) relational style of teaching.

Basically she was teaching inner city high school English class and encouraged her students to keep a journal that they could share their thoughts through writing so they all wrote things they'd never told anyone else out loud and it was all very traumatic. But somehow that was healing, because when reading what others had gone through they knew they weren't alone with their struggles.
 
I've been in a few relationships in my life, what I've cringed at the most in my time online is when I find out that something is being overshared about me lol. Especially when it's exaggerated to where it's not like me at all. I remember several years ago running into a public blog post by someone I was in a relationship with at the time. I was stunned by what I read and confronted them privately about it. This caused at least 2 months of silence between us. I thought surely something wouldn't happen like that again, but unfortunately it definitely has happened again.
I'm a very private person, so I don't share very much at all. I don't use social media very much. I have a facebook account mostly because that's how I keep in touch with my best friend. ChristianChat is the best place for anyone to find anything out about me, and I don't reveal all that much except food 😂

In my spare time, I really get into true crime. I've been into true crime for a very long time. I think it's good for victims to overshare their stories. I think it helps to understand what happened and how others can use that knowledge to protect themselves. Also, I'm sure it can be cathartic for them as well. I also think it helps other victims to get help and heal.

Me personally, I keep a private online journal. I started keeping a journal in grade school. I did this off and on until about 8 years ago when I made a daily habit of keeping a journal. I don't need anyone's attention for the details of my life and I don't need views or thumbies. I just like to privately journal my day. It helps me to have a place to release feelings and frustrations that I'm having, and to also keep an account of my daily life. There's been times I've been away and had to keep a physical journal. It's good that I always have notebooks with me lol. I have several physical journals that I've kept. I've joked to myself that someone might find them after I'm dead and make a movie about me. I'll be gone to the great wilderness beyond and I won't care if someone else overshares my life lol.

I am so sorry this happened to you, Carrie (the oversharing.)

I would not like that at all!

I mean, I don't think I have anything TOO diabolical going on in my life, but seriously, people don't need to know that I'm re-organizing my pen collection on a Friday night! :oops:

Seriously...

As someone who had a hard time holding things in, I can relate to people who feel a need to share everything but... Maybe it's the level of discernment that can seem incompatible?

I like to share, but I'm picky about what I share (it's just that I can turn anything, like a trip to the gas station, into a 10-page essay -- with pictures!)

If I ever get into a relationship, and we have differing views on how much and WHAT should be shared... I know I would have a hard time with that, too.
 
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I am so sorry this happened to you, Carrie (the oversharing.)

I would not like that at all!

I mean, I don't think I have anything TOO diabolical going on in my life, but seriously, people don't need to know that I'm re-organizing my pen collection on a Friday night! :oops:

Seriously...

As someone who had a hard time holding things in, I can relate to people who feel a need to share everything but... Maybe it's the level of discernment that can seem incompatible?

I like to share, but I'm picky about what I share (it's just that I can turn anything, like a trip to the gas station, into a 10-page essay -- with pictures!)

If I ever get into a relationship, and we have differing views on how much and WHAT should be shared... I know I would have a hard time with that, too.

I do understand and can even relate to the need for social threads on topics. For example, sometimes I like to read threads where people share their experience with mental illness or their experience with a loved one that has mental illness. This helps me to get a better understanding of things like that, instead of just reading a scholarly type of article. Real people telling their experiences gives a clearer scope on real life situations.

It's just that when I'm in a relationship, I believe we need to sort problems out with each other and the Lord, not with everyone in the world. Also, it's particularly annoying (and embarrassing!) when what's being shared is exaggerated or twisted. I expect decorum.

I definitely see the need for discussions in threads on topics. I think there is a time for sharing and time for being private. Just me personally, I like to keep my daily online journal private and any current relationship problems private. I do sometimes read other people's relationship experiences. Sometimes, if it's a relationship that was in the past and they aren't likely to see me mentioning them, I will mention situations to add my own experience to the discussion or even for a bit of humor (like the guys who have jumped and screamed when they saw me near a bug or snake 😂 ). Ugh, sometimes I feel like such a man 😅
 
Smetimes, if it's a relationship that was in the past and they aren't likely to see me mentioning them, I will mention situations to add my own experience to the discussion or even for a bit of humor (like the guys who have jumped and screamed when they saw me near a bug or snake 😂 ). Ugh, sometimes I feel like such a man 😅


LOL!!!

And now I'm tempted to write a thread entitled, "HELP!! AM I A MAN OR A WOMAN -- I HAVE ALL THESE CLUES BUT I'M STILL NOT SURE!"

This is because we had something going in the Keurig thread about people wondering if they were a man based on Keurig ownership, information technology, having a car "that goes", and cheese!!

Of course, the cheese seemed to be the most important part. 😁

However, with all the Alphabet Mafia nonsense going on in the world, a thread title like that would be a magnet for trouble, so alas, I must refrain. 😭

Doggone people who really CAN'T decide if they are man or a woman ruining all of our fun!!
 
In terms of personal relationships.. discretion is advised...but if you've been abused, definitely speak out. It may save someone's life or help someone avoid a trap.