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Karlon said:
when i'm invited to parties, i found out what food they are serving. please don't think i'm a snob, but i have no use for cheap low level food. even mediocre food is not interesting to me. my parents spoiled us with their great cooking & baking so i'm conditioned to that for life.
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I understand ...and you're wise given the myriad of food allergies these days. This was somewhat different, in that I designed it to show in a real way what food insecurity is and press home the fact that many are only one or two paychecks away from such choices.... if that far. It was a very poignant example given to a group that was invited to come and help with taste testing possible choices for an up-coming Volunteer Appreciation Evening.
Prior to retirement my career was as a professional Chef and I feel a wonderful sense of accomplishment whenever a dish leaves the kitchen... and I thank our good Lord for the blessings that have enabled my skill. I made a commitment long ago never to serve anything that I would not serve guests in our home, so this activity was very different for me. I spent many hours in prayer looking for guidance and found it in the generation of this event. It had an impact .. because it challenged ALL OF US to examine our roles in the community and our attitudes towards those who cannot dine as we do. It was an evening of initial ire for some because it was not what they expected, yet it ended in an atmosphere of prayer and growth... and was successful beyond our most optimistic hopes.
(On a side note, the off-shoot for the Volunteer Appreciation was nearly a miracle. The committee, after receiving a barrage of mail in support, decided to have a 'pot-luck' and donate the budgeted cash to the local Loaves and Fishes meal site. It was the best attended Appreciation to date and truly a celebration of living the mission of Jesus through prayer and faith in action.
 
Larry73 said:
I understand ...and you're wise given the myriad of food allergies these days. This was somewhat different, in that I designed it to show in a real way what food insecurity is and press home the fact that many are only one or two paychecks away from such choices.... if that far. It was a very poignant example given to a group that was invited to come and help with taste testing possible choices for an up-coming Volunteer Appreciation Evening.
Prior to retirement my career was as a professional Chef and I feel a wonderful sense of accomplishment whenever a dish leaves the kitchen... and I thank our good Lord for the blessings that have enabled my skill. I made a commitment long ago never to serve anything that I would not serve guests in our home, so this activity was very different for me. I spent many hours in prayer looking for guidance and found it in the generation of this event. It had an impact .. because it challenged ALL OF US to examine our roles in the community and our attitudes towards those who cannot dine as we do. It was an evening of initial ire for some because it was not what they expected, yet it ended in an atmosphere of prayer and growth... and was successful beyond our most optimistic hopes.
(On a side note, the off-shoot for the Volunteer Appreciation was nearly a miracle. The committee, after receiving a barrage of mail in support, decided to have a 'pot-luck' and donate the budgeted cash to the local Loaves and Fishes meal site. It was the best attended Appreciation to date and truly a celebration of living the mission of Jesus through prayer and faith in action.
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well & professionally mentioned. i do appreciate your talent & your gift to those people. we Christians shall always be on the lookout to assist someone. that's an eye opener: "never serve anything that i would not serve.....". that shows you own the proper attitude.
 
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People are not pigs or dogs and we shouldn't treat them as such.
I wouldn't be happy having someone else's leftovers if guest at a party. Lazarus really got the crumbs at the table.

Not just in food but sometimes in life that's just what it's like.

Some of the food served in schools that the govt tried to cut the budget (on the free lunch scheme) was absolute inedible slop. I'm so ashamed of what that govt did for children, it showed they didn't care a hill of beans for the future generation. Its called 'the trickle down' effect as if wealth 'trickles down' to the poor people and the theory is they get rich too. Yeah right!

No, what happens is people are just plain stingy and think crumbs is a good meal for those worse off who can't bring or buy their own.
 
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Karlon said:
well & professionally mentioned. i do appreciate your talent & your gift to those people. we Christians shall always be on the lookout to assist someone. that's an eye opener: "never serve anything that i would not serve.....". that shows you own the proper attitude.
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Thank you, but in my view ALL the credit belongs to Jesus, as it was HE who led us through this inspirational evening. In my adult life I have tried to always challenge myself with WWJD when making nearly any decision, and certainly often failed, but keep trying. The parable of the wedding banquet is where the "never serve anything that i would not serve....." came from in one of those WWJD moments, and it has served us well over the decades.

Be well Karlon, and thank you once again!
 
Larry73 said:
Thank you, but in my view ALL the credit belongs to Jesus, as it was HE who led us through this inspirational evening. In my adult life I have tried to always challenge myself with WWJD when making nearly any decision, and certainly often failed, but keep trying. The parable of the wedding banquet is where the "never serve anything that i would not serve....." came from in one of those WWJD moments, and it has served us well over the decades.

Be well Karlon, and thank you once again!
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Lanolin said:
People are not pigs or dogs and we shouldn't treat them as such.
I wouldn't be happy having someone else's leftovers if guest at a party. Lazarus really got the crumbs at the table.

Not just in food but sometimes in life that's just what it's like.

Some of the food served in schools that the govt tried to cut the budget (on the free lunch scheme) was absolute inedible slop. I'm so ashamed of what that govt did for children, it showed they didn't care a hill of beans for the future generation. Its called 'the trickle down' effect as if wealth 'trickles down' to the poor people and the theory is they get rich too. Yeah right!

No, what happens is people are just plain stingy and think crumbs is a good meal for those worse off who can't bring or buy their own.
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speaking of pigs & dogs, we always have a rescue for bad food, like this past Tuesday when our refrigerator decided to die. we donated to the animals at our farm! in america, the triple down effect has effected many areas: school education, less service any any business, higher costs for this & that, more reliance on the customer when business is transacted, etc. sure, i ate food at nursing homes & hospitals while caring for the elderly & handicapped. just awful!!!
 
ugh I know all about hospital food.
private hospital food is much better but you are paying through the nose for it.

Doggy bag is for the dog, not for humans! lol traditionally it's the bones eg a leg of lamb. Don't feed your dog chicken bones.
Pigs love any kind of food. So do chickens. Chickens LOVE corncobs that haven't been picked entirely clean.
 
otherwise...compost, worm farm or bokashi bucket.
DO NOT ever get an insinkerator.
 
If you've got surplus fresh produce, do the fair food thing. Supply your foodbanks. People desperately need food. COL is so high these days.
 
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I heard there were food deserts in the US.
Not sure if they still are there after Mrs Obama started growing veges on the White House Lawn. She got elementary kids to do the gardening, as she was worried they were going to get too fat from the cheap school lunches.

Her theory was if they got too fat, or maybe malnourished, then they wouldn't be fit enough to qualify for the Army, and then the US would remain defenceless in event of a missile strike or nuclear war which surely they would not start.
 
Lanolin said:
I heard there were food deserts in the US.
Not sure if they still are there after Mrs Obama started growing veges on the White House Lawn. She got elementary kids to do the gardening, as she was worried they were going to get too fat from the cheap school lunches.

Her theory was if they got too fat, or maybe malnourished, then they wouldn't be fit enough to qualify for the Army, and then the US would remain defenceless in event of a missile strike or nuclear war which surely they would not start.
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MOST of the so called food deserts are located within the BIG cities where food costs are intensely higher and selection is smaller due to shelf space and sales. Ms. Obama's theory was well intentioned but ridiculous. The cheapest food is usually the highest in carbs, salt and sugars, readily available and does not require any special cooking.... boxed mac&cheese is a perfect example. 'Food Stamps as well as school lunches provide something to eat...which is far better than burning hunger even if it isn't the healthy choice most of us wish. My one disagreement here is in the SNAP (Food Stamp) program... there is NO WAY it should provide carbonated drinks like soda!
 
Lanolin said:
I heard there were food deserts in the US.
Not sure if they still are there after Mrs Obama started growing veges on the White House Lawn. She got elementary kids to do the gardening, as she was worried they were going to get too fat from the cheap school lunches.

Her theory was if they got too fat, or maybe malnourished, then they wouldn't be fit enough to qualify for the Army, and then the US would remain defenceless in event of a missile strike or nuclear war which surely they would not start.
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believe me, anything the obama's did that presented itself as a beneficial act for the us. was just a front to post a positive image of themselves. they desired to change america for the worse. really, any convenience store in america is garbage unless it's organic which i have never seen an organic convenience store. there's a true organic grocery store in saratoga called "healthy living. everything there is almost 2 to 3 times the amount of regular groceries.
 
Karlon said:
believe me, anything the obama's did that presented itself as a beneficial act for the us. was just a front to post a positive image of themselves. they desired to change america for the worse. really, any convenience store in america is garbage unless it's organic which i have never seen an organic convenience store. there's a true organic grocery store in saratoga called "healthy living. everything there is almost 2 to 3 times the amount of regular groceries.
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My friend, I don't believe everything the Obama's tried to do was a front.... I think their hearts were in the right place many times, and misdirected many others, but I believe their intentions were honorable and grounded in their own experiences. (No, I didn't vote for Mr. Obama). Yes, many times organic is best, but the reality is most folks have not been educated to understand that fact nor have they been taught to cook, preferring instead convenience and eating out. Education is the key... along with MUCH prayer, but sadly school administrations are more concerned with athletics, the arts and too often indroctrination than they are with vital SKILLS.
 
i am not a pro when it comes to politics, foreign policy or world decision making but obama had no right in implementing his own healthcare system, making people pay for it. & telling people they can keep their own healthcare providers. his role in the iran nuclear agreement & the isis situation didn't assist us at all. i know of a guy who had no health insurance so when Obama's system was installed $ was withdrawn from his tax return. i helped him get it back.
 
Karlon said:
i am not a pro when it comes to politics, foreign policy or world decision making but obama had no right in implementing his own healthcare system, making people pay for it. & telling people they can keep their own healthcare providers. his role in the iran nuclear agreement & the isis situation didn't assist us at all. i know of a guy who had no health insurance so when Obama's system was installed $ was withdrawn from his tax return. i helped him get it back.
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Mr. Obama implemented the healthcare BOTH political parties have been vowing to do for decades...although the one he helped design was an absolute disaster, misrepresented the costs and made the entire situation worse. But my friend, at least he tried, which is more than Presidents before or since have had the courage to do.
 
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Mrs Obama wanted to educate children on how to grow food so they would be able to provide for themselves instead of subsisting on junk.
She wrote that she remembered back in the day when she was a child they had food trucks that went around the neighbourhoods delivering fresh food door to door, so people didn't have to drive their cars (which they didn't have back then) to the supermarkets (which didn't exist then either) to get their dinner.

It's all in her book American Grown.
 
We have similar initiative in NZ called Garden to Table, but it's not a compulsory syllabus or curriculum in schools.
 
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Lanolin said:
Mrs Obama wanted to educate children on how to grow food so they would be able to provide for themselves instead of subsisting on junk.
She wrote that she remembered back in the day when she was a child they had food trucks that went around the neighbourhoods delivering fresh food door to door, so people didn't have to drive their cars (which they didn't have back then) to the supermarkets (which didn't exist then either) to get their dinner.

It's all in her book American Grown.
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Ummmmm....a few slight corrections are necessary. Ms. Obama is younger than I... and there were PLENTY of cars when I grew up. Further, there were plenty of supermarkets (mainly family owned) as well. My friend, your premise falls apart.
 
Excuse me...read her book
I think it might have been her parents generation PLUS she did not grow up where YOU grew up.

Just check it out cos it's been a while since I read it. Supermarkets are not the same as grocery stores. You can't family own a supermarket.
 
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