agree mostly.
Suggest to look into history of Germany before 1933. Early 1900.
Research on who promoted sex change surgery, abortion.....
Possible you already did.
More about Israel.
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Suggest to look into history of Germany before 1933. Early 1900.
Research on who promoted sex change surgery, abortion.....
Possible you already did.
No what I find ironic is the fact that Germany is now helping the very people they tried to genocide.
The same with Egypt, they enslaved Israel, then gave refuse to the Messiah, and are now apart of the 3 nations God mentioned to be saved and have their part in the end times.
God has always had one, continuous covenant people throughout history.
There is no ultimate division between Israel and the Church. Both Old Testament saints and New Testament believers are part of the same spiritual body of Christ.
The gospel of Jesus Christ directly fulfils the promises of the covenant of grace for all believers, whether Jews or Gentiles. Israel and the church are not two distinct peoples; rather, the church is the true Israel of God, "a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession" 1 Peter 2:9
Does God have a separate purpose and redemptive program for Israel and the church? Or, does the gospel of Jesus Christ fulfil God’s purpose to gather a people from every tribe, tongue, and nation, Jews and gentiles alike, into one worldwide family?
When the Apostle Paul declares in Romans 1 that the gospel is the “power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Gentile”, Romans 1:16 he declares that there is one way of salvation for all who believe in Jesus Christ. Yet he simultaneously affirms that this salvation does not displace or supersede God’s redemptive purpose for the Jews but, rather, fulfils it.
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Yes, Jesus is ruling in the hearts of his people now. But when he returns, he will rule over the nation of Israel as her king.
Yes, and Jesus will rule the world from Jerusalem. I think that's why the antichrist will invade the third temple for that reason. As if he can take Jesus' place. SMH.....
Paul teaches in the book of Galatians the only True seed of Abraham [Israel], His True Heirs of the Abrahamic Covenant blessings and promises are True Believers, whether jew or gentile Gal 3:7
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. [see Rom 4:16] Gentiles who believe are the True seed of Abraham and Heirs of Promise.
Abraham is the Father of God's People not because of being their biological ancestor, as the ethnic jews think, and many others as well but because He has a spiritual family given him of Faith [see Rom 4:16] This verse certainly proves that the gentiles as well as some ethnic jews are Abraham's seed of promise. So He [ Abraham] has been given by God, a spiritual family [ a type of Christ] who follow in His Faithful footsteps Rom 4:12
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
This Truth also shows the connection of the Church [spiritual seed] transitioning from the OT to the NT, Abraham's spiritual seed being the bridge and foundation. 4
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. [see Rom 4:16] Gentiles who believe are the True seed of Abraham and Heirs of Promise.
Abraham is the Father of God's People not because of being their biological ancestor, as the ethnic jews think, and many others as well but because He has a spiritual family given him of Faith [see Rom 4:16] This verse certainly proves that the gentiles as well as some ethnic jews are Abraham's seed of promise. So He [ Abraham] has been given by God, a spiritual family [ a type of Christ] who follow in His Faithful footsteps Rom 4:12
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
This Truth also shows the connection of the Church [spiritual seed] transitioning from the OT to the NT, Abraham's spiritual seed being the bridge and foundation. 4
Amen!
Claim to have a separate way is blasphemous to Jesus.
Jesus said "I am the way...."
No other way!!!
They just like to throw labels, replacement, rasist, antisemi.....they refuse to see the fact, the truth.
I have never argued anything else.
Israel exists and prospers according to God's will and power. Go look at a map. The book of Revelation makes no sense without a literal land of Israel. The reason the world is mostly so hostile to Israel is that the world is hostile to God.
I have followed this discussion from the start. I have not seen one word that implies that there is a separate salvation for Jews. It's a straw man argument thrown up by those who seek to promote replacement theology. I have news for you. Look at the map. Israel is there.
America is one of the main arms suppliers to Israel. So America is a genocide practicing nation too. Germany buys weapons from Israel. Have you noticed how Germany has the strongest economy in Europe? They support Israel. Have you noticed how the UK lost its massive empire in just a few decades? Yet they "won" WW2. The problem is that they betrayed Israel continually and still do.
God is still blessing those who bless Israel. As Americans increasingly turn against Israel, they are suffering economic and social collapse and the creeping Islamisation that is a blight on Europe.
1 John 5:19 states that "the whole world is under the power of the evil one."
That includes Israel. Nobody is blessed for supporting a nation carrying out genocide.
Matthew 5:9
Heaven and earth will pass away, but God's words endures forever.
Yep, Israel state is there, blaspheming Jesus name, commiting sexual immoralities, promoting paganism, promoting abortion....
Christians wake up, choose for this day who you want to serve, Jesus? Or a secular state that blasphemy Jesus name!
Choose this day who you want to serve, almighty God, or money
? Be honest. At least the Israel state people in a way they are honest, they clearly state they are against Jesus. On that note, learn some positive from them. Same as the people who put Jesus on cross, at least they were saying their heart, on that moment.
Also the ones with the Holy Spirit winning souls that are sent out from the kingdom of God inviting people to the wedding.
Luke 17:20-21
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation.
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
The parable is that the Holy Spirit sends you out from the kingdom to invite people to the wedding.
The book of Revelations makes sense, because it was not written in AD95 as some teach, but shortly before the destruction of Jerusalem.
It shows the servants of God "things which must shortly come to pass;".
Israel is called the Mother of Harlots.
The beast that comes out of the sea is Rome, that comes over the Mediterranean.
The horns are kings and 5 are fallen: Julius Cesar, Augustus Cesar, Tiberius Cesar, Caligula and Claudius.
One king "is", and that is Neron Cesar.
"The other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."
That is Galba, who continues for only 7 months.
If anyone has wisdom, let him transcribe the name; NERON CESAR into Hebrew letters and add up the numerical value of the letters.
If he hath not wisdom (like I don't), let him ask ai to do it.
You still don't get it. Israel's history is full of rebellion and sin. Reminds me of America as it is now, in fact. Israel is like any other nation, a mixed bag. Some are very much pro Christian, some are hostile, some are indifferent. Ask Mandami how he feels about Christianity.Heaven and earth will pass away, but God's words endures forever.
Yep, Israel state is there, blaspheming Jesus name, commiting sexual immoralities, promoting paganism, promoting abortion....
Christians wake up, choose for this day who you want to serve, Jesus? Or a secular state that blasphemy Jesus name!
Choose this day who you want to serve, almighty God, or money
Be honest. At least the Israel state people in a way they are honest, they clearly state they are against Jesus. On that note, learn some positive from them. Same as the people who put Jesus on cross, at least they were saying their heart, on that moment.
The tribulation period will see Israel judged to a degree never before in her history. You don't want to move there, that's for sure. However, Lord Jesus will return to the Mount of Olives, not LA or Washington.
God will have His way in spite of people, not because of them. God's promise was that Israel would be a nation as long as the sun shone and the moon orbited the earth. The sun came up here this morning.
You lump all Israelis under "they". Christianity is growing in Israel, while the church is collapsing in the West. So "they" are not necessarily any more against Christianity than many Americans or Europeans.
Your statement about who to serve is ignorant and foolish. God still blesses those who bless Israel. Being a blessing to someone does not mean that we serve them. My wife is a blessing to me, but Jesus is her Lord, not me.
Do you actually listen to anything that the people of Israel say? Netanyahu expresses great appreciation for Christians. I happened to make a comment that was read by one Israel's senior generals in the IDF. He asked me to pray for him. So I do. Is he saved? I don't know. But he is for sure not anti Christian. And he acknowledges that God hears our prayers.
You talk about being honest. Your blanket condemnation of Israelis is dishonest. You should try a little honesty yourself.
There will be no liars in the Kingdom of God. Israel is defending itself, not committing genocide. Quit spreading slanderous and false information.
Israel is a nation of war criminals. The body of Christ are God's people, Christ never said to bless Israel. But if you want to be a Zionist and support a regime that kills, steals and destroys, go ahead. Just don't twist the living word of God to support your views.