I still hope to view a recent video updating what Trump said in 2016, but I discerned a changed Trump giving God glory
after his ear was bloodied but his life was spared.
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I still hope to view a recent video updating what Trump said in 2016, but I discerned a changed Trump giving God glory
after his ear was bloodied but his life was spared.
Yes, I read back through the comments first. What I'm getting from you is that anyone who disagrees must be "of the world". Yes, yes, you caught us. We're all ignorant heathens.
No, I don't consider Musk or Trump to be Christian, but that doesn't erase the positive things they've done. I'm very aware of the negatives, as well.
Bottom line and the reason for my first post: If you're going to proclaim "Hate, slander, those things don't reside in me" as you proceed to literally slander someone, don't be surprised when the obvious hypocrisy gets called out.
It was negative and judgemental regarding a man of great accomplishment. Imagine the risk of failure here, and yet he succeeds. Go Elon
Yes, I read back through the comments first. What I'm getting from you is that anyone who disagrees must be "of the world". Yes, yes, you caught us. We're all ignorant heathens.
No, I don't consider Musk or Trump to be Christian, but that doesn't erase the positive things they've done. I'm very aware of the negatives, as well.
Bottom line and the reason for my first post: If you're going to proclaim "Hate, slander, those things don't reside in me" as you proceed to literally slander someone, don't be surprised when the obvious hypocrisy gets called out.
If I were of the world you'd be correct,
But I'm not.
Yes, I read back through the comments first. What I'm getting from you is that anyone who disagrees must be "of the world". Yes, yes, you caught us. We're all ignorant heathens.
No, I don't consider Musk or Trump to be Christian, but that doesn't erase the positive things they've done. I'm very aware of the negatives, as well.
Bottom line and the reason for my first post: If you're going to proclaim "Hate, slander, those things don't reside in me" as you proceed to literally slander someone, don't be surprised when the obvious hypocrisy gets called out.
Well Citizen, you've stepped up to the plate, may I ask you some questions to get a measurement of your faith?
Assuming your okay with that, what is your understanding of saving faith ?
The reason for this is by answering these questions, ill get a sense of were you are in the process, and if you are the spirits person yet. This would lend credence to take what your saying, and i would listen more intently.
Grace through faith, how do you in your own words, understand "through faith ".
A random Question?
Was Jesus born with a human nature?
Was that human nature pre fall or post fall.? Did Jesus have the fallen nature of Adam and 4000 years or the unfallen nature of Adam?
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Phi 2:7 KJV But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
This states that Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh. But was without sin.
Was Jesus born with a human nature?
Was that human nature pre fall or post fall.? Did Jesus have the fallen nature of Adam and 4000 years or the unfallen nature of Adam?
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Phi 2:7 KJV But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
This states that Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh. But was without sin.
Wow... just stop with the sideshow. You've already judged anyone who disagrees with you as being of the world, so you clearly have zero intention of listening. You are free to review any of my forum posts to continue with your judgement of my salvation.
You're deflecting away from the issue, which was you slandering someone while boasting slander doesn't reside in you. You chose to make statements and assumptions you absolutely cannot back up, and now you're choosing to run away from that fact. Focus and reflect upon that.
Yes, I read back through the comments first. What I'm getting from you is that anyone who disagrees must be "of the world". Yes, yes, you caught us. We're all ignorant heathens.
No, I don't consider Musk or Trump to be Christian, but that doesn't erase the positive things they've done. I'm very aware of the negatives, as well.
Bottom line and the reason for my first post: If you're going to proclaim "Hate, slander, those things don't reside in me" as you proceed to literally slander someone, don't be surprised when the obvious hypocrisy gets called out.
It seems you don't have a good grasp the Christians state of being.
In Christ, as per Rom. 7: 14-21, we are in a different state of being. That state of being is described by a military term in the Greek texts.
It describes 3 entities, God and the Holy Spirit, satan and his minions, and us. It describes God and satan in trench warfare over our souls, and we are merely onlookers with only the power to choose which one we surrender ourselves to.
This state of being is called sanctification, precisely, we are separated from our sinful nature's, to the point where Paul says, if I do what I do not want to do, it's not me doing it but indwelling in me doing it.
That is what I meant by hate and slander do not reside in me. Because of a continually surrendered life to Him, i am separated from doing those things, they don't abide, stay, reside in myself.
Where i went to far is just stating my opinion about things and people of the world. I usually don't do that, but GWH and I have been talking for months publicly and in private, and we have a good understanding of where each of us is at.
My discerning of trump and Musk is really just an observation of what is general public knowledge. And because I'm still "in" the world, I continually deal with thoughts of liking trump and Musk, and my leaning hard to the conservative side of things. But it all needs to be tempered with the truth, and the truth is not on their side at this point in time.
Looking forward to you reply about faith.
It's literally a few sentences, should be the primary thought in your mind ready to be shared at a moments notice. This is that moment.
Yes, Jesus is the Lord incarnate: Insofar as God can be manifested in the human dimension, that person is Jesus.
What I had not considered was connecting Rom. 8:3 and Phil. 2:7 with Heb. 4:15, which is TOP #266: Jesus was tempted to sin,
but he did not sin or was made perfect. [Heb. 4:15, 5:7-9, 7:26-28 & 10:14] Jesus learned submission or obedience to God the Father from what he suffered as God the Son, culminating in his crucifixion.
I will add those other verses soon.
I think these passages indicate that Jesus had the pre-fall human nature because of clean genes via the immaculate conception.
As created, Genesis says humans were very good, but not perfect, and Jesus perfected human nature by cooperating fully with the divine nature.
Yes I agree 100% man and 100% God.
But I believe the understanding of sin has been twisted. It is not a sin to be tempted. JESUS WAS TEMPTED.
when temptation is given into it becomes sin. JESUS NEVER SINNED
But Jesus was tempted in all points like us yet without sin.
For Jesus to come and be protected from temptation and not have a sinful nature like us, then how could He say He was tempted like us.
Follow the genes of Mary and you will find sinful people in that line. The teaching that Mary was sinless is a catholic doctrine, based on sin being inherited. Or based on people being a sinner before they are even born. Which is false.
Sin is a choice not something we are born with. A sinful nature does not automatically make us a sinner.