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Well, a life inspired by personal surrender to Jesus would not be eternal salvation, but the reasonable response to already being given eternal life.

Eternal salvation is a free gift of God, not by works.

Pisteuo starts the relationship, maintains the relationship, and completes the relationship here on earth.
 
I agree. If somebody says, "Jesus Christ is my Saviour but not my Lord," they are talking about a different Jesus Christ thatn the one in the Bible. There, 116 verses refer to Him as "Lord Jesus" or "Lord Jesus Christ." The Philippian jailer was told:

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved" (Acts 16:31)

The word believe is a mistranslation.

That should have been taught to you in your first day of Bible class.
 
The word " witness " means martyr. And we as martyrs are to ship worth, that you could invest on yourself. But you deny yourself that investment to testify and ship worth (worship, worth -ship) to God.
As you martyr a little bit of your pleasure to testify to Gods worth.... In your giving....

In 2 Cor. 8, 9, Paul concluded, you prove the genuineness of Gods Spirit in you by the way you give.

To the Corinthians, if you have the Spirit of Christ, you have the mind of Christ.

You can't have the mind of Christ, if it doesn't make you want to give.
 
The word believe is a mistranslation.

That should have been taught to you in your first day of Bible class.
You keep saying that. Yet you also say that English doesn't have a verb from the noun "faith." When translating from one language to another, it cannot always be a word-for-word translation. Was it you that suggested making up a verb in Engish, "faithing"? The trouble with that is that you would need to explain to English speakers what it meant, because "faithing" isn't a word in English.
 
You keep saying that. Yet you also say that English doesn't have a verb from the noun "faith." When translating from one language to another, it cannot always be a word-for-word translation. Was it you that suggested making up a verb in Engish, "faithing"? The trouble with that is that you would need to explain to English speakers what it meant, because "faithing" isn't a word in English.

Pisteuo needs at least two English sentences to communicate that one Greek word sufficiently.

Those two sentences are a personal surrender to Him and, a life inspired by such surrender. TheVines Greek dictionary.

The Strongs gives reliance upon, commit unto, be committed unto.

My gifted Bible teacher is the one who coined the words faithe, faither, and faithing. Those are the words the translators should have had available to them.

When they chose "believe" attempting that one word translation , they inadvertently started that wide path understanding Jesus warned us about.
 
In 2 Cor. 8, 9, Paul concluded, you prove the genuineness of Gods Spirit in you by the way you give.

To the Corinthians, if you have the Spirit of Christ, you have the mind of Christ.

You can't have the mind of Christ, if it doesn't make you want to give.

To the Philippines, Let this mind be in you, that was also in Christ Jesus.

There's nothing more important to God as giving people, and teaching giving as a primary function of the church.
 
To the Philippines, Let this mind be in you, that was also in Christ Jesus.

There's nothing more important to God as giving people, and teaching giving as a primary function of the church.

Christ said, Mt. 16:24, Mk 8:34, Lk. 9:23, "he must deny himself, and take up your cross.

"Sacrificing self", is the first element of" bearing our cross."
 
Christ said, Mt. 16:24, Mk 8:34, Lk. 9:23, "he must deny himself, and take up your cross.

"Sacrificing self", is the first element of" bearing our cross."

A" Saint"
, is a called out one, who has and is continually surrendering their lives to Him.

The original meaning for the word " church "is the Lords. The church is a people who trust their lives to the Lord.

When you put an offering on the altar and turn loose of it, you have "sainted it"!
Thats where the word comes from, it's not perfection, it's commitment posture.
 
A" Saint"
, is a called out one, who has and is continually surrendering their lives to Him.

The original meaning for the word " church "is the Lords. The church is a people who trust their lives to the Lord.

When you put an offering on the altar and turn loose of it, you have "sainted it"!
Thats where the word comes from, it's not perfection, it's commitment posture.

We become a saint, in terms of possession, not performance.
"Sainthood", is position or the relationship of being possessed.
 
We become a saint, in terms of possession, not performance.
"Sainthood", is position or the relationship of being possessed.

Spirituality, leads to cross bearing, not cross bearing leading to Spirituality.

Christianity, gets tougher, not easier.

Without the resurrection fact, there is no Christianity.
 
Pisteuo needs at least two English sentences to communicate that one Greek word sufficiently.

Those two sentences are a personal surrender to Him and, a life inspired by such surrender. TheVines Greek dictionary.

The Strongs gives reliance upon, commit unto, be committed unto.

My gifted Bible teacher is the one who coined the words faithe, faither, and faithing. Those are the words the translators should have had available to them.

When they chose "believe" attempting that one word translation , they inadvertently started that wide path understanding Jesus warned us about.
But Strong's doesn't only give "reliance upon, commit unto, be committed unto." The entry says:

"G4100
πιστεύω
pisteuō
pist-yoo'-o
From G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well being to Christ): - believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with."

So Strong's includes "believe."

You say that the translators should have had he words faithe, faither, and faithing available to them. They didn't, and nor do we, because those words do not exist in English.
 
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To the Philippines, Let this mind be in you, that was also in Christ Jesus.

There's nothing more important to God as giving people, and teaching giving as a primary function of the church.
Not criticising, but I think you meant "To the Philippians," though I am sure Christians in the Philippines value that verse too. :)
 
But Strong's doesn't only give "reliance upon, commit unto, be committed unto." The entry says:

"G4100
πιστεύω
pisteuō
pist-yoo'-o
From G4102; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well being to Christ): - believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with."

So Strong's includes "believe."

You say that the translators should have had he words faithe, faither, and faithing available to them. They didn't, and nor do we, because those words do not exist in English.

Come on DL,
The Strongs says the word " believe " when it gives the disclaimer.

Strongs says exactly , first line right out of the gate. " PISTEUO MEANS NOT JUST TO BELIEVE. "
 
Come on DL,
The Strongs says the word " believe " when it gives the disclaimer.

Strongs says exactly , first line right out of the gate. " PISTEUO MEANS NOT JUST TO BELIEVE. "
Well, I copied and pasted the entry from Strong's, and those words "Pisteuo means not just to believe" are not there. Even if they were there, Strong's does not say that pisteuo does not mean "to believe," and you claim that it doesn't, and that translators are wrong to translate it that way.
 
There is a twin activity going on in the Christian.
1) The dying of " the old self."
2) The building of the " new life."

The "price tag", on salvation.... is "Lordship".

In the Greek, " The Lord is my shepherd ", means, Absolute, total, complete, nothing held back, " Mastery. "
Good to know.
 
Well, I copied and pasted the entry from Strong's, and those words "Pisteuo means not just to believe" are not there. Even if they were there, Strong's does not say that pisteuo does not mean "to believe," and you claim that it doesn't, and that translators are wrong to translate it that way.

I have both vines and Strongs texts.
 
Well, I copied and pasted the entry from Strong's, and those words "Pisteuo means not just to believe" are not there. Even if they were there, Strong's does not say that pisteuo does not mean "to believe," and you claim that it doesn't, and that translators are wrong to translate it that way.

ABCs of faith, and act, based upon a belief, sustained by confidence.
1) The act, a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender.
2) based upon a belief, that God will accept the surrendered life.
3) sustained by confidence, that all the many daily decisions we make support the fact that we really do consider our l lives to be His now , and not ours anymore.

So belief is a small part of faith, but not in the way the wide path thinks.

Knowing anything about the caller isn't a prerequisite to fulfill faith and faithing.