How do we testify to this word of the Lord?

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Dino246 said:
I've read almost every post he's made over the past year. He has many ideas that are simply wrong and some that are actually heretical. His "method" for obtaining "understanding" involves rejecting all human instruction or correction and waiting for "revelation", which is often inconsistent with standard interpretation of Scripture. He also claims to "know" things about other people that cannot be known in the natural and that contradict what Scripture plainly teaches. I look at all these things and conclude that he is listening to an unclean spirit.
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The Lord Jesus is truly very good. Once again, He confirms Ecclesiastes 1:9 and Matthew 24:35. What happened in the past is repeated, and His word never passes away.

During the time of the New Testament, the scribes and Pharisees were always watching and following the Lord Jesus as He shared the truth with the Jews. They did this not because they genuinely wanted to find the truth, but simply so they would have something to criticize and attack in what the Lord was saying.
LUKE 11:53-54
53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

And now, here we have another scribe or Pharisee who says that he has been following my sharing of the truth from the Word of God from the very beginning. And his purpose is no different from that of the scribes and Pharisees.
 
Godsgood said:
The Lord Jesus is truly very good. Once again, He confirms Ecclesiastes 1:9 and Matthew 24:35. What happened in the past is repeated, and His word never passes away.

During the time of the New Testament, the scribes and Pharisees were always watching and following the Lord Jesus as He shared the truth with the Jews. They did this not because they genuinely wanted to find the truth, but simply so they would have something to criticize and attack in what the Lord was saying.
LUKE 11:53-54
53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

And now, here we have another scribe or Pharisee who says that he has been following my sharing of the truth from the Word of God from the very beginning. And his purpose is no different from that of the scribes and Pharisees.
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You demonstrate no accountability for your errors.
 
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Godsgood said:
JOHN 20:29
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
In our discussion of John 20:29, we can compare the two examples presented by the Lord. Although the man who was healed of leprosy recognized the Lord Jesus, and the centurion also recognized the Lord Jesus, the centurion was more blessed because he was the one whom the Lord referred to as believing even before seeing the Lord’s power.

For it is through humility that a person comes to recognize the Lord Jesus. However, if we compare the humility of these two individuals, the centurion demonstrated greater humility.

Therefore, in our time today, we can also see these two kinds of people: those who believe because they have seen, and those who believe even though they have not seen. This shows that what the Lord is pointing to is the humility found in a person’s heart.
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We Christians who have been enlightened by the words of God experienced this in our lives.

Let us consider this example: if we see an object that is white, and if everyone we ask says that it is white, then we would naturally believe that it is white. But when God came into our lives, He told us that it was not white but black.

We accepted this with complete humility, and He revealed to us its true color and indeed, it was not white but black.
This showed that even in such a small example, we trusted Him.

Therefore, when He tells us that He is speaking in parables, even though what is written in the Holy Scriptures may seem clear to our understanding, we humbly accept that He is speaking in parables.

Thus, before God, we became like the centurion. We believed even before we had seen. Because of this, the one true God revealed Himself to us, and then He began to reveal the truth through His words.

LUKE 16:10
10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.

TO GOD BE THE GLORY!
 
Godsgood said:
We Christians who have been enlightened by the words of God experienced this in our lives.

Let us consider this example: if we see an object that is white, and if everyone we ask says that it is white, then we would naturally believe that it is white. But when God came into our lives, He told us that it was not white but black.

We accepted this with complete humility, and He revealed to us its true color and indeed, it was not white but black.
This showed that even in such a small example, we trusted Him.

Therefore, when He tells us that He is speaking in parables, even though what is written in the Holy Scriptures may seem clear to our understanding, we humbly accept that He is speaking in parables.

Thus, before God, we became like the centurion. We believed even before we had seen. Because of this, the one true God revealed Himself to us, and then He began to reveal the truth through His words.

LUKE 16:10
10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.

TO GOD BE THE GLORY!
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But that doesn't mean that the whole Bible consists of parables If it did, we would have to conclude that Jesus wasn't really born and laid in a manger, didn't literally shed His blood on the cross, and rise again three days later. We'd have to say that the accounts telling us these things are parables meaning something else. And was Jesus telling parables when He gave His explanations of parables to His disciples? Of course not.
 
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Godsgood said:
We Christians who have been enlightened by the words of God experienced this in our lives.

Let us consider this example: if we see an object that is white, and if everyone we ask says that it is white, then we would naturally believe that it is white. But when God came into our lives, He told us that it was not white but black.

We accepted this with complete humility, and He revealed to us its true color and indeed, it was not white but black.
This showed that even in such a small example, we trusted Him.

Therefore, when He tells us that He is speaking in parables, even though what is written in the Holy Scriptures may seem clear to our understanding, we humbly accept that He is speaking in parables.

Thus, before God, we became like the centurion. We believed even before we had seen. Because of this, the one true God revealed Himself to us, and then He began to reveal the truth through His words.

LUKE 16:10
10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.

TO GOD BE THE GLORY!
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Goodness, you are profoundly stubborn!

God SOMETIMES speaks in parables. God DOES NOT ALWAYS speak in parables.

Why don't you understand this? Scripture tells you and you still don't believe it. Your black-and-white example is nothing but hypocrisy dressed up in an exemplary guise. You DON'T humbly accept what God says in His word. Instead you take TWO VERSES of His word and treat them as though they override ALL OTHER SCRIPTURE. That's not humility; it's stupidity.
 
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DavidLamb said:
But that doesn't mean that the whole Bible consists of parables If it did, we would have to conclude that Jesus wasn't really born and laid in a manger, didn't literally shed His blood on the cross, and rise again three days later. We'd have to say that the accounts telling us these things are parables meaning something else. And was Jesus telling parables when He gave His explanations of parables to His disciples? Of course not.
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You insist on using your own understanding when interpreting the words of God, as stated in Proverbs 3:5. That is why you cannot accept that God speaks in parables.

But we who know the one true God do not rely on our own understanding. Instead, we humble ourselves before what He has said. That is why He reveals to us why He said that He speaks in parables. And it has been proven that the Lord truly speaks in parables.

In your case, you are asking about human understanding or your own understanding. Therefore, the answer to the color is simply: white is white.
 
Dino246 said:
Goodness, you are profoundly stubborn!

God SOMETIMES speaks in parables. God DOES NOT ALWAYS speak in parables.

Why don't you understand this? Scripture tells you and you still don't believe it. Your black-and-white example is nothing but hypocrisy dressed up in an exemplary guise. You DON'T humbly accept what God says in His word. Instead you take TWO VERSES of His word and treat them as though they override ALL OTHER SCRIPTURE. That's not humility; it's stupidity.
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Could it be that you are the stubborn and stupid one?
Where did you read the word “sometimes”?
 
Godsgood said:
Could it be that you are the stubborn and stupid one?
Where did you read the word “sometimes”?
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Did I say that the word "Sometimes" is written somewhere? No. I didn't. Again, YOU DON'T READ TOO GOOD.

What does the Scripture say?

Mark 4:34a He did not say anything to them without using a parable. (Jesus speaks in parables...)

Mark 4:34b But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything. (SOMETIMES BUT NOT ALWAYS).

Do you get it now? Or are you still stubbornly blind to the truth?
 
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Godsgood said:
You insist on using your own understanding when interpreting the words of God, as stated in Proverbs 3:5. That is why you cannot accept that God speaks in parables.

But we who know the one true God do not rely on our own understanding. Instead, we humble ourselves before what He has said. That is why He reveals to us why He said that He speaks in parables. And it has been proven that the Lord truly speaks in parables.

In your case, you are asking about human understanding or your own understanding. Therefore, the answer to the color is simply: white is white.
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No I don't insist on using my own understanding when I read God's word. I rely on the Holy Spirit. It just is not correct to take everything in the Bible as a parable or dark saying. If you claim that it is, then even the verses such as those saying that Jesus spoke in parables or the verses about dark sayings must themselves be parables. Also, what about those passages in the New Testament where Jesus explains parables to the disciples? If you were correct, ands everything in the Bible is a parable, then even the explanatiuons of parables are themselves parables, which is ridiculous.
 
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DavidLamb said:
No I don't insist on using my own understanding when I read God's word. I rely on the Holy Spirit. It just is not correct to take everything in the Bible as a parable or dark saying. If you claim that it is, then even the verses such as those saying that Jesus spoke in parables or the verses about dark sayings must themselves be parables. Also, what about those passages in the New Testament where Jesus explains parables to the disciples? If you were correct, ands everything in the Bible is a parable, then even the explanatiuons of parables are themselves parables, which is ridiculous.
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Well said.
 
DavidLamb said:
No I don't insist on using my own understanding when I read God's word. I rely on the Holy Spirit. It just is not correct to take everything in the Bible as a parable or dark saying. If you claim that it is, then even the verses such as those saying that Jesus spoke in parables or the verses about dark sayings must themselves be parables. Also, what about those passages in the New Testament where Jesus explains parables to the disciples? If you were correct, ands everything in the Bible is a parable, then even the explanatiuons of parables are themselves parables, which is ridiculous.
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The Lord God Himself said that He speaks in parables. He alone has the authority to explain why He spoke in this way. It is not for you or for anyone else to decide what He meant.

If it is truly the case that the Lord Jesus’ explanations can be clearly found in the Holy Bible, then I hope that everyone who reads and believes in the Word of God will come to have the same understanding and doctrine.
In that way, there would no longer be different groups or divisions within Christianity.
 
DavidLamb said:
No I don't insist on using my own understanding when I read God's word. I rely on the Holy Spirit. It just is not correct to take everything in the Bible as a parable or dark saying. If you claim that it is, then even the verses such as those saying that Jesus spoke in parables or the verses about dark sayings must themselves be parables. Also, what about those passages in the New Testament where Jesus explains parables to the disciples? If you were correct, ands everything in the Bible is a parable, then even the explanatiuons of parables are themselves parables, which is ridiculous.
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If the Lord does not speak in parables or dark sayings, and if His explanations of His parables can easily be found in the Holy Bible, then I have a question for you:

Why are there four different understandings of who the Lord Jesus is among people who believe in and read the Holy Bible? Why can’t they read and understand the name of the one true God?
 
Gideon300 said:
Well said.
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This truth cannot be denied, according to the Lord Jesus.
MATTHEW 10:34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
 
Godsgood said:
JOHN 20:29
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
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Umm, that we’re blessed by believing abd not seeing? Im just spitballing here, but im guessing that’s what you mean by “testifying”? Odd
 
Godsgood said:
The Lord God Himself said that He speaks in parables. He alone has the authority to explain why He spoke in this way. It is not for you or for anyone else to decide what He meant.

If it is truly the case that the Lord Jesus’ explanations can be clearly found in the Holy Bible, then I hope that everyone who reads and believes in the Word of God will come to have the same understanding and doctrine.
In that way, there would no longer be different groups or divisions within Christianity.
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But Jesus did not say that everything He said was a parable. When raising Jairus's daughter, He said, "Little girl, I say to you, arise," was He telling her a parable? Of course not. He told her to arise, and she did. When He said to the disciples, "Launch out into the deep and let down your nets for a catch," was that a parable? No, the actually did launch out into the deep and let down their nets. And He didn't say to them, "Don't be foolish. It was a parable. I didn't mean that you were literally to launch out into the deep and let down your nets." The gospel isn't understood by taking everything in the Bible as parables and dark sayings.
 
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Godsgood said:
If the Lord does not speak in parables or dark sayings, and if His explanations of His parables can easily be found in the Holy Bible, then I have a question for you:

Why are there four different understandings of who the Lord Jesus is among people who believe in and read the Holy Bible? Why can’t they read and understand the name of the one true God?
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Because we are human beings, with limited knowledge. I don't know what your "four different understandings of who the Lord Jesus is" are, but there are certain things about Him that are made clear in Scripture, including the fact that He is eternal, that He is fully God, and since His incarnation, fully Man, that He was conceived in a virgin's womb by the Holy Spirit, He died on the cross, to save those who believe in Him, and rose again three days later, and is now in heaven, from where He will return on the last day. If any of your four views miss out any of those basic biblical truths, they can easily be shown to be wrong from the Bible.
 
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DavidLamb said:
But Jesus did not say that everything He said was a parable. When raising Jairus's daughter, He said, "Little girl, I say to you, arise," was He telling her a parable? Of course not. He told her to arise, and she did. When He said to the disciples, "Launch out into the deep and let down your nets for a catch," was that a parable? No, the actually did launch out into the deep and let down their nets. And He didn't say to them, "Don't be foolish. It was a parable. I didn't mean that you were literally to launch out into the deep and let down your nets." The gospel isn't understood by taking everything in the Bible as parables and dark sayings.
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By asserting that everything in Scripture is a parable, he believes that he makes room for his own "revelations" to stand above the plain text. He doesn't, of course, but he is apparently blinded to the reality of it.

I consider that more evidence that he is deceived by a familiar spirit.
 
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