Girls aren't "supposed" to struggle with sex addictions...

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_Lissy_

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You might think this sounds bitter but if you can love me the way God told you to, you'll see through what might offend you, passed what you might like to presume about me, around your own experiences and "expertise", beyond the way you would like to judge my situation and simply hear me and my pain. I would be thouroughly impressed if I receive only uplifting, supportive prayers in response to this, but not in the least surprised if the reaction is either that I'm engaged in debate, or "correction", or ignored and avoided.

What I don't want is your advice. I don't want your opinion with "thus sayeth the Lord" tacked on the end, a sermon pointing me "in the right direction" or a bombardment of scriptures. I'm not even looking for sympathy.

And if you want to get all preachy and say things like "you might not want it but maybe it's what you need" - let me say that really isn't your call. You're not me, you don't know what I need and all you'll do by taking it upon yourself to think you have the right to make that judgement call is give me more means to feel hurt, more cause to feel bitter and more reason to keep struggles to myself and not take the risk of vulnerability again.

What I'm asking for, if you will, is your prayers. Is for someone to lift me to God where I have lost the strength to do so.

And if you want to really go hard core and act like you care

(understand I'm not making a presumption about you - I don't know who you are - but I am speaking out of the pain of my experiences)

perhaps you could even say more than a rushed prayer where you jump in and say the first thing that jumps into your head about me based on the things you have programmed yourself to believe

(Even though it may be "correct")

and what you would speculate God would want you to say. Perhaps you could take the time to actually let God lead you and fill you with a compassion for me that will give your prayer wings and insight. I lack the strength to go there myself right now, otherwise I would not be asking for help. That's the point of asking others to pray.

I have been addicted to masturbation since I was very small. I have some vague memories about a mild molestation which leaves me wondering if there is more that I don't remember.

I have never been into a wild lifestyle, that is to say I havn't participated in it. I've been drunk maybe three times, always at a time of crisis. But I have often had sexual fantacies about some pretty wild stuff, including being with girls, or groups etc. I have been a church going Christian involved in ministry for most of my life, and no one would ever suspect this about me from my personality and involvement - though many know I'm pretty messed up in a lot of ways, I don't think anyone would ever suspect this.

So obviously I have never told anyone about this, or done anything about it as far as acting on the urges, apart from masturbating in private. I don't feel like there's anyone I can discuss this with. If I talk to Christians - well it is an extremely inappropriate subject to discuss with males, and if I tell any ladies I believe they would just be completely freaked out and have no clue what to say or how to relate to this problem. Also I think some might wonder, if they find out that I think about girls, whether I have ever thought about them, and then they might not feel socially safe around me.

And if I speak to non-Christians about it.. I suspect I would get opposition to fighting the urges. They wouldn't see the problem.

There is sooooo much more to this situation that I just don't have the emotional energy to explain right now. So please resist the urge to explain things to me and ask me questions leading to advice and doctrine. As I said, what I'm asking for is your prayers. And none of those sneaky prayers that aren't really talking to God but to people.

" Dear God, please help Lissy to realise that blah blah blah here's my opinion on what she should do. " Seriously I don't wanna hear it. Ask God how you should pray. He's the one who gets where I'm at.

Skeptically resorting to the last straw, thanks all the same.

Lis
 
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glenwood74

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Well, Lissy, I can say that I understand your addiction and I empathize with your need for discretion. I will pray for you as I pray for myself. May you find the strength to battle this issue through the strength and grace of our Lord Jesus. God love you, and bless you!
 
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_Lissy_

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Thankyou. This sentence is purely to make at least ten characters since this thing won't let me post such a short reply.
 
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lightbliss

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"perhaps you could even say more than a rushed prayer where you jump in and say the first thing that jumps into your head about me based on the things you have programmed yourself to believe"

Um... okay. I'll try not to take offense to this.

A lot of Christians have struggled with addictions before coming to Christ (even during), so no, you are not alone. Some just don't like talking about it, but I find if they did (ministers, pastors, leaders in church, etc.,)(no matter how embarrassing), then they'd help so many people overcome theirs addiction(s).
Seldom will you ever find someone (Christian) whom is perfect in such a way (they never did/have: drugs, smoke, watch pornography, premarital sex, lying, stealing, masturbation, cheating, cussing and cursing, being intoxicated, rebelling, backstabbing, etc.,). Maybe some have never done these things but the majority have.

Now even though you don't want anyone to suggest something to you, if you do nothing (in anything), you won't get results. Do read the Bible, not for answers, but for comfort. Pray, even if it's "Lord please strengthen me," everyday for week, months, or years.
 
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viviana1

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I just want to say you're just so not on your own in your experiences of all this. Many many christians have the same struggles. My concern is that because you feel like you will be condemned, or judged (which I'm not doing!) you may be holding God at arm's length. I will pray that you will know that God loves you, just as you are, and that you will find some peace in that. It would be good if you could go through the scriptures and look all those references up to help you realise just how much you are loved and accepted by God, even if not by yourself. Then ask Him to guide you.
 
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aprilrenee1

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<3 <3 <3.......
 
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_Lissy_

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Oh thankyou... I've never thought of reading my bible and asking for support. I'm naiive enough to believe no one else has ever struggled with this and obviously green enough not to understand basic christian doctrines about forgiveness etc...

Yes I'm being sarcastic.

I'm not a rude person. I have been polite and worn other peoples inability to respect me to indescribable degrees. Understand this is not my usual demeanor, I don't walk around talking like this. This is me snapping. I've had enough.

I know you're trying to help, and all you're doing is speaking from where I'm at, as I am.

You know what, I just won't look here anymore. Write all you want, I won't be reading it. I asked for prayer, and that was the point. So if you want to pray for me, I appreciate it. if you don't, leave me alone! In case I wasn't clear enough the first time, I am not asking for a discussion! I'm asking for prayer.

Understand I'm not bitter at anyone, as a person. Just frustrated with behaviour I speciffically requested not to be faced with. I'm not terribly surprised. Thankyou for your prayers, for those who are doing so.

Have a good life. Lis.
 
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_Lissy_

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correction: speaking from where you're at, as im speaking from where im at. is what i menat to say
 
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lightbliss

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Its always the same with some people.
Even though you "won't post here anymore," I'm just gonna say it. I know you want prayer, but regardless of how many people are praying for you, you won't get anywhere unless you also try to help yourself.
I could pray that a drug addict is "loosed from those bonds," have multiple interventions and sent them to rehab but ultimately the decision to change is up to them and the ability up to God. You have to do something for yourself.
It does seem that you are bitter and unwilling (also bit rude in your statement). If you truly wanted to "break" your addiction, then you would appreciate advice and IDK, actually seek the Lords help, even though you "are weak," not just prayer from others.

Good luck
 
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HumbleSaint

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Its always the same with some people.
Even though you "won't post here anymore," I'm just gonna say it. I know you want prayer, but regardless of how many people are praying for you, you won't get anywhere unless you also try to help yourself.
I could pray that a drug addict is "loosed from those bonds," have multiple interventions and sent them to rehab but ultimately the decision to change is up to them and the ability up to God. You have to do something for yourself.
It does seem that you are bitter and unwilling (also bit rude in your statement). If you truly wanted to "break" your addiction, then you would appreciate advice and IDK, actually seek the Lords help, even though you "are weak," not just prayer from others.

Good luck

I don't like when people say good luck. I know you meant well, but I believe that luck originated from lucifer, and it completely denies that Jesus had anything to do with it.
 
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lightbliss

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I don't like when people say good luck. I know you meant well, but I believe that luck originated from lucifer, and it completely denies that Jesus had anything to do with it.
Now that you say this, I think back to "riddle" stories about the devil and luck. I don't mean anything trickery, streaks, etc., just being happy and whatnot.
 
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HumbleSaint

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Now that you say this, I think back to "riddle" stories about the devil and luck. I don't mean anything trickery, streaks, etc., just being happy and whatnot.
I understand, I understand( said a little softer the second time)
 
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Maddog

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Will pray.
 

Ellie

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What a shame. I don't think that was necessary. People who seem bitter are usually hurting and it's unhelpful to state how they come off and what they ought to do, it only drives them away. I will pray for you Lissy, even if you never know about it. I understand the perspective of personal responsibility, but I also think that when someone reaches out in a way that was hard for them to do, it is vital that they are met with validation and love foremost, and that perhaps praying for Lissy in her weak state might bring her to a place where she is ready to take responsibility, faster than telling her to do so. It's not up to us to do the Holy Spirit's job.
 
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I agree, Ellie. You said what I was thinking, only in a lot kinder way.
 
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HumbleSaint

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People get offended way to easy. before I became a Christian I would get all hurt over the littlest things. I believe if you have the fruits of the Holy Spirit you will accept advice, instead of taking offence. I have been rebuked before, but how are you suppossed to help someone out when you can't even tell them the truth. What are you supposed to say, "Just keep on sinning and hopefuly God will eventualy force you to not sin. We do have to make a concious effort to look to God and ask Him to help us, and not just expect that He is just going to force us to overcome addiction.
 
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Love009

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I will be praying for you Lissy.
 
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OreoSoleil

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It is convicting -- when God makes us see our sin as he does. But be encouraged -- he doesn't do that to us all. He loves you -- there is definitely a breakthrough coming your way -- here to support you.
 

pickles

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Lissy, do not worry about this right now. Just let yourself get to know the love of Jesus.
Ive had my own battles in my life and the healing came when Jesus knew I was ready. Mostly because what we do is ussually a symptom of what is really going on. Jesus will help you as to why, and he will bring healing to you in his timing.
It is as you realize his love, that all will work because it is through him and in him that the healing happens.
It is not about being perfect, it is about knowing his perfect love and as you discover this love you will be dazzled by him.
You are very much in my prayers, not for any sin, but that you will come to know his gental, perfect, funny, caring,true and perfect love.
Hugs and God bless, pickles
 
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filomena

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I humbly advice you that malistation in the past does play a part in it. Now second I would recommend you to get baptized if you haven't. You will die to your old nature and be born a new person. if you have been baptized I recommend that you pray and fast. How bad do you really want to be delivered? That's how hard you should pray and fast and read the bible.