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cv5

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I will stick with the science and reject the folk lore, old wives tales, conjectures, speculation and bad reasoning like "if I get sick after a vaccine it is 99% sure to be the vaccine" That is not science and really rather an uneducated reasoning that comes natural but is not accurate. The value of science is that we can observe cause and effect under the microscope and identify the issues. Until the cause is identified no one should say they KNOW what it is. The ironic thing is that I have observed a type of personality that will KNOW for certain out of intuition, apriori knowledge and just speculation because they think their intuition is so POWERFUL that it does not require proof, and when they discover they were wrong, they do not learn from it and repeat the same belligerent behavior all over again determining that something is the way they say it is without evidence. And they get proven wrong again and again and they never just stop and say.. this time I am going to not conclude anything until I find out more information. These are the kinds of people who will swear on a stack of bibles that someone stole something from their Car, purse, house etc. only to find it later where they left it. And then do the same thing again the next month when they loose another item. They will tell you I KNOW that it was stolen and I think I KNOW who did it. And then they find it again and they never change. These are the kinds of people who KNOW that the vaccine made them sick or someone else and they haven't a shred of science to back them up. Don't even visit their house your liable to be accused of stealing something when they misplace it themselves. They will say I KNOW it was here on that table before so and so came for a visit and now it's gone. It is 99% evidence they took it. But then they will find and and do it all over again next time.
Really? Exactly how scientific is this fact:
When the children of Israel were wandering for 40 years their shoes and their clothes never wore out.

You go ahead and worship the gods of science I will worship to God who could prevent clothes and shoes from wearing out for 40 years.
 

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I will stick with the science and reject the folk lore, old wives tales, conjectures, speculation and bad reasoning like "if I get sick after a vaccine it is 99% sure to be the vaccine"
And, I will stick with trusting more in God's natural way of doing things than in man's artificial way of doing things.

God designed the human body to need the proper balanced amounts of:

~ good food to eat
~ good water to drink
~ sleep, rest, and relaxation
~ exercise of the whole body

If you give the body what it needs (while not giving it too much "junk" that is bad for it), the body will take care of itself.

All of the unnatural "junk" that is in modern vaccines is poison to the human body - and, can cause various forms and extents of detriment to the body.

God's way is life and health.

Man's way is sickness and death.
 
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All of the unnatural "junk" that is in modern vaccines is poison to the human body - and, can cause various forms and extents of detriment to the body.
Sounds believable but it is not true. There is no junk poisons in vaccines. It is a false accusation that has not one shred of science to back it up. It's almost like certain personalities WANT to believe that is so and when they read the medical data that explains what is in it and how it is not what they thought it was they get mad and refuse to believe it. Instead of being relieved they say THEY ARE LIARS. You cannot make them believe that God may have given us knowledge to create vaccines so that our own immune system can create antibodies (that is all natural by the way) to kill a certain virus if it invades us that no amount of orange juice or any other food item has ever been able to do or will do. You see your body does not create these antibodies that attack the antigen of a certain virus from food items you take in. That has never happened. Once people understand that some of them start being more friendly toward vaccines.
 

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. . . bad reasoning like "if I get sick after a vaccine it is 99% sure to be the vaccine" That is not science and really rather an uneducated reasoning that comes natural but is not accurate.
For someone who:

~ "never ever gets sick"
~ has not been sick in 20 years
~ is very active and healthy
~ exercises well
~ sleeps well
~ eats well
~ etc.

- who gets a vaccine - and then becomes very ill or dies ----- I would say that it was very good reasoning indeed!

And, there is an extremely high probability that it would be accurate!

Every potential scenario is different.

Don't make such blanket statements.
 

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Sounds believable but it is not true. There is no junk poisons in vaccines. It is a false accusation that has not one shred of science to back it up.
I believe you have been severely deceived...

Go examine the [vaccine] research of Russell Blaylock M.D.
 
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For someone who:

~ "never ever gets sick"
~ has not been sick in 20 years
~ is very active and healthy
~ exercises well
~ sleeps well
~ eats well
~ etc.

- who gets a vaccine - and then becomes very ill or dies ----- I would say that it was very good reasoning indeed!

And, there is an extremely high probability that it would be accurate!

Every potential scenario is different.

Don't make such blanket statements.
Most likely NOT the vaccine. What did the autopsy say?
 
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I believe you have been severely deceived...

Go examine the [vaccine] research of Russell Blaylock M.D.
ooohhh a challenge. Ok. I will see what I can find out.
 
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I believe you have been severely deceived...

Go examine the [vaccine] research of Russell Blaylock M.D.
Blaylock claims the supposed toxicity of numerous substances that according to scientific studies are safe at customary exposure levels. He has been quoted several times in media outlets regarding his position that MSG is toxic to the brain.[12][13][14] He also states that the widely used artificial sweetener aspartame is toxic[15][16] and may be the cause of multiple sclerosis.[17] He has additionally cautioned against heavy use of the artificial sweetener Splenda (sucralose).[18] These positions are not supported by scientific consensus or regulatory bodies, as extensive studies support the safety of aspartame, sucralose, and MSG.[2][3][19]

Not finding his views on vaccines.
 

GaryA

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You cannot make them believe that God may have given us knowledge to create vaccines so that our own immune system can create antibodies (that is all natural by the way) to kill a certain virus if it invades us that no amount of orange juice or any other food item has ever been able to do or will do. You see your body does not create these antibodies that attack the antigen of a certain virus from food items you take in. That has never happened. Once people understand that some of them start being more friendly toward vaccines.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Every system in the human body is supported by the food we eat, the air we breathe, etc. - the "building blocks" of everything "manufactured" in the body for use by every cell in the body.

Don't be ridiculous.
 

Moses_Young

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Can you point me to some really good specific research on this?
There is an interesting book written by Arthur Firstenberg, called "The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life". I've extracted the below from Chapter 7.

"
Influenza Is an Electrical Disease


Suddenly and inexplicably, influenza, whose descriptions had remained consistent for thousands of years, changed its character in 1889. Flu had last seized most of England in November 1847, over half a century earlier. The last flu epidemic in the United States had raged in the winter of 1874–1875. Since ancient times, influenza had been known as a capricious, unpredictable disease, a wild animal that came from nowhere, terrorized whole populations at once without warning and without a schedule, and disappeared as suddenly and mysteriously as it had arrived, not to be seen again for years or decades. It behaved unlike any other illness, was thought not to be contagious, and received its name because its comings and goings were said to be governed by the “influence” of the stars.

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Influenzal deaths per million in England and Wales, 1850-1940

But in 1889 influenza was tamed. From that year forward it would be present always, in every part of the world. It would vanish mysteriously as before, but it could be counted on to return, at more or less the same time, the following year. And it has never been absent since.

Like “anxiety disorder,” influenza is so common and so seemingly familiar that a thorough review of its history is necessary to unmask this stranger and convey the enormity of the public health disaster that occurred one hundred and thirty years ago. It’s not that we don’t know enough about the influenza virus. We know more than enough. The microscopic virus associated with this disease has been so exhaustively studied that scientists know more about its tiny life cycle than about any other single microorganism. But this has been a reason to ignore many unusual facts about this disease, including the fact that it is not contagious.

In 2001, Canadian astronomer Ken Tapping, together with two British Columbia physicians, were the latest scientists to confirm, yet again, that for at least the last three centuries influenza pandemics have been most likely to occur during peaks of solar magnetic activity—that is, at the height of each eleven-year sun cycle."

And...

"Influenza works its caprice not only on land, but at sea. With today’s speed of travel this is no longer obvious, but in previous centuries, when sailors were attacked with influenza weeks, or even months, out of their last port of call, it was something to remember. In 1894, Charles Creighton described fifteen separate historical instances where entire ships or even many ships in a naval fleet were seized by the illness far from landfall, as if they had sailed into an influenzal fog, only to discover, in some cases, upon arriving at their next port, that influenza had broken out on land at the same time. Creighton added one report from the contemporary pandemic: the merchantship “Wellington” had sailed with its small crew from London on December 19, 1891, bound for Lyttelton, New Zealand. On the 26th of March, after over three months at sea, the captain was suddenly shaken by intense febrile illness. Upon arriving at Lyttelton on April 2, “the pilot, coming on board found the captain ill in his berth, and on being told the symptoms at once said, ‘It is the influenza: I have just had it myself.’”

An 1857 report was so compelling that William Beveridge included it in his 1975 textbook on influenza: “The English warship Arachne was cruising off the coast of Cuba ‘without any contact with land.’ No less than 114 men out of a crew of 149 fell ill with influenza and only later was it learnt that there had been outbreaks in Cuba at the same time.”

The speed at which influenza travels, and its random and simultaneous pattern of spread, has perplexed scientists for centuries, and has been the most compelling reason for some to continue to suspect atmospheric electricity as the cause, despite the known presence of an extensively studied virus. Here is a sampling of opinion, old and modern:

Perhaps no disease has ever been observed to affect so many people in so short a time, as the Influenza, almost a whole city, town, or neighborhood becoming affected in a few days, indeed much sooner than could be supposed to spread from contagion. Mercatus relates, that when it prevailed in Spain, in 1557, the greatest part of the people were seized in one day. Dr. Glass says, when it was rife in Exeter, in 1729, two thousand were attacked in one night.
Shadrach Ricketson, M.D. (1808), A Brief History of the Influenza


The simple fact is to be recollected that this epidemic affects a whole region in the space of a week; nay, a whole continent as large as North America, together with all the West Indies, in the course of a few weeks, where the inhabitants over such vast extent of country, could not, within so short a lapse of a time, have had the least communication or intercourse whatever. This fact alone is sufficient to put all idea of its being propagated by contagion from one individual to another out of the question.
Alexander Jones, M.D. (1827), Philadelphia Journal of the Medical and Physical Sciences


Unlike cholera, it outstrips in its course the speed of human intercourse.
Theophilus Thompson, M.D. (1852), Annals of Influenza or Epidemic Catarrhal Fever in Great Britain from 1510 to 1837


Contagion alone is inadequate to explain the sudden outbreak of the disease in widely distant countries at the same time, and the curious way in which it has been known to attack the crews of ships at sea, where communication with infected places or persons was out of the question.
Sir Morell Mackenzie, M.D. (1893), Fortnightly Review


Usually influenza travels at the same speed as man but at times it apparently breaks out simultaneously in widely separated parts of the globe.
Jorgen Birkeland (1949), Microbiology and Man


[Before 1918] there are records of two other major epidemics of influenza in North America during the past two centuries. The first of these occurred in 1789, the year in which George Washington was inaugurated President. The first steamboat did not cross the Atlantic until 1819, and the first steam train did not run until 1830. Thus, this outbreak occurred when man’s fastest conveyance was the galloping horse. Despite this fact, the influenza outbreak of 1789 spread with great rapidity; many times faster and many times farther than a horse could gallop.
James Bordley III, M.D. and A. McGehee Harvey, M.D. (1976), Two Centuries of American Medicine, 1776–1976


Flu virus may be communicated from person to person in droplets of moisture from the respiratory tract. However, direct communication cannot account for simultaneous outbreaks of influenza in widely separated places.
Roderick E. McGrew (1985), Encyclopedia of Medical History


Why have epidemic patterns in Great Britain not altered in four centuries, centuries that have seen great increases in the speed of human transport?
John J. Cannell, M.D. (2008), “On the Epidemiology of Influenza,” in Virology Journal"
 

cv5

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Blaylock claims the supposed toxicity of numerous substances that according to scientific studies are safe at customary exposure levels. He has been quoted several times in media outlets regarding his position that MSG is toxic to the brain.[12][13][14] He also states that the widely used artificial sweetener aspartame is toxic[15][16] and may be the cause of multiple sclerosis.[17] He has additionally cautioned against heavy use of the artificial sweetener Splenda (sucralose).[18] These positions are not supported by scientific consensus or regulatory bodies, as extensive studies support the safety of aspartame, sucralose, and MSG.[2][3][19]

Not finding his views on vaccines.
Big Pharma and big corporations are always selling us down the river. Get a clue. The latest horror story is the glyphosate. A diseased crippled and sick populace means little when profits are involved.
 

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I will stick with the science and reject the folk lore, old wives tales, conjectures, speculation and bad reasoning like "if I get sick after a vaccine it is 99% sure to be the vaccine" That is not science and really rather an uneducated reasoning that comes natural but is not accurate.
Lol. The irony is that this is the very reasoning used by vax-pushers to justify vaccines in the first place. Reduction in deadly diseases due to clean water and better living conditions, they attribute to vaccines. Yet the same reasoning is not allowed for adverse vaccine reactions? You are funny.

Also, those pushing vaccines don't use science. Science is using what we observe using our senses to understand the world around us. Vaccine pushers try to lie with statistics, to remove the data of adverse vaccine reactions to demonstrate vaccines are safe. But real science, performed by those who are not funded by Big Pharma, using unmanipulated data, readily shows vaccines are not safe. Those who attribute 99% certainty to getting sick after a vaccine as being due to the vaccine are using more science than you. Science is about cause and effect (e.g. vaccine and sickness). You are a believer in coincidence, to a degree it becomes a type of faith (e.g. "despite getting sick rarely, the fact I got sick after taking the vaccine must have been a coincidence").
 
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Big Pharma and big corporations are always selling us down the river. Get a clue. The latest horror story is the glyphosate. A diseased crippled and sick populace means little when profits are involved.
I worked for a global pharmaceutical company protecting their corporate data and there were so many layers of security, documentation and segregation of duties it would be technically impossilbe for them to do what the conspiracy theorists accused them of. So my REALITY was based on experience at the Headquarters working with the top executives the conspiracy theorist reality was based on fantasies and ignorance about how many technical checks and balances exist withing the companies.
 
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I worked for a global pharmaceutical company protecting their corporate data and there were so many layers of security, documentation and segregation of duties it would be technically impossilbe for them to do what the conspiracy theorists accused them of. So my REALITY was based on experience at the Headquarters working with the top executives the conspiracy theorist reality was based on fantasies and ignorance about how many technical checks and balances exist withing the companies.
I worked for one Pharmaceutical company who's mission was to provide life saving medicines such as HIV medication free of charge to people who could not afford it in countries like Africa. It was their MISSION statement plastered all over their walls in the corporate headquarters and they made it their corporate culture. There reason for being in business. See you hear alot of made up fantasy conspiracy theories about Big Pharma and occasionaly a small company gets caught doing stupid stuff but the sad thing is that people don't get to see and hear about the beautiful things that are REALLY happening with big Pharmaceutical companies like this one that is focused on saving lives not just making profits. They have the right mission and vision and you find out more if you really care by checking out Mylan Pharmaceuticals. They will change your mind about what you though Big Pharma was all about.
 

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I worked for a global pharmaceutical company protecting their corporate data and there were so many layers of security, documentation and segregation of duties it would be technically impossilbe for them to do what the conspiracy theorists accused them of. So my REALITY was based on experience at the Headquarters working with the top executives the conspiracy theorist reality was based on fantasies and ignorance about how many technical checks and balances exist withing the companies.
That is truly hilarious. Why in the world do you think they had so many layers of security wiseguy?

BTW, glyphosate was known to cause cancer for years and years. And yes there was vast company secrecy and a vast internal and external company conspiracy to cover it all up. I could name dozens and dozens of similar circumstances and situations. Get a clue.
 
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Anti-science are we? Are you aware that scientist so-called are practically 100% wrong 100% of the time? Are you aware of the fact that the "standard models"........ ALL of them are obsolete and yet they still remain in the textbooks?

For example the sun is undoubtedly and unquestionably electric in nature. The sun is in fact a plasmoid in arc mode. All stars every last one of them are driven by electromagnetic forces and are either in glow mode or arc mode or somewhere in between. Black holes are nothing more than dielectric counterspace nodes. Practically every theory about black holes that has been published is completely and laughably bogus.

Never ever put your faith in science or scientists. All of the published stuff is either a pack of lies or woefully obsolete.

Okay have it your way.
You have gone way beyond anything I stated.

A good movie to watch at this juncture in history is "Idiocracy" for we are surely headed down that path.
 

cv5

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I worked for one Pharmaceutical company who's mission was to provide life saving medicines such as HIV medication free of charge to people who could not afford it in countries like Africa. It was their MISSION statement plastered all over their walls in the corporate headquarters and they made it their corporate culture. There reason for being in business. See you hear alot of made up fantasy conspiracy theories about Big Pharma and occasionaly a small company gets caught doing stupid stuff but the sad thing is that people don't get to see and hear about the beautiful things that are REALLY happening with big Pharmaceutical companies like this one that is focused on saving lives not just making profits. They have the right mission and vision and you find out more if you really care by checking out Mylan Pharmaceuticals. They will change your mind about what you though Big Pharma was all about.
What about bioethics? Are you aware that many many vaccines are made with aborted fetal tissue cell lines? This is grotesque and completely unacceptable to Christians.

"Some of the vaccines currently used to prevent diseases such as rubella, measles, rabies, poliomyelitis, hepatitis A, chickenpox or smallpox are produced using tissues from human abortions."

https://bioethics.georgetown.edu/20...-are-vaccines-produced-using-aborted-fetuses/

So tell us again how you love vaccines wiseguy........
This stuff is completely Satanic.
 

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If someone feels out of sorts after a vaccine that is normal. Your immune system has just created antibodies because it though it was under attack. This goes away. It is not reason for alarm. It is to be expected. If people read the literature they would know that instead of freaking out.

Not all journalists in the world are deeply entrenched in a plot to deceive us. The CDC is an awesome organization and only getting better every year. 10,800 employees and they are as committed to their jobs to protect, help humanity, and fight disease as you are to want to help people, (assuming you care and want to help people). They are not perfect but we should invest in making them better rather than spreading conspiracy lies about them.

I am leery of all people who believe in and spread illogical and unreasonable theories. I will not appoint them into leadership positions because I cannot trust them to be of sound mind or make logical and reasonable decisions in other areas. I am leery of people who think that the CDC, or the FDA are evil organizations. I am leery of people who tell others not to get a vaccine. As for a flat earther? I just walk across the street and go the other way if I see one coming. LOL

I do not hate them. I pray for them. I ask the Lord to reveal to them how it destroys their ability to witness about Jesus Christ after they spread lies about other theories. Many will never recover their credibility in this life from those who they have spoken to about crazy theories they believe are true. They have traded their desire to share that crazy theory with a lost person rather than the Gospel. Because when they try to share the gospel with that person later that person is not listening to anything you say. They think you are a nut but are too nice to tell you. THAT IS A FACT! THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO THE BANK!
So the next time you want to share a crazy theory with someone that you know is probably not true but you share it as if you believe it is fact, stop yourself and think... "Self.. this is a good time to share the Gospel with this person instead of this crazy theory" And use that enthusiasm you were about to invest in a story about the government plot to ... whatever whatever.. and instead share the Gospel message with them.
I don't have the energy to read through and respond to your post. But I do speak to those who may happen across this site: PLEASE REFUSE THE VACCINE. DO NOT LET ANY GOVERNMENT ENTITY TELL YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO BE INJECTED. YOU HAVE CERTAIN INALIEABLE RIGHTS WHEN YOU WERE BORN INTO THIS WORLD AND THE PROTECTION OF YOUR BODY IS ONE OF THEM.

I don't have the time to sit here and debate this gentleman, or I would refute every one of his assertions. I'll say this: Beware of Bill Gates and the CDC both. Gates has a depopulation agenda and the CDC has been caught lying on numerous occasions. They've found aborted baby parts, cancer cells, infertility drugs, and nanoparticles in vaccines. Draw your own conclusions. You will not hear any of this reported on the mainstream news as it's owned by the same men who are trying to destroy America.

Some good alternative news sites are https://sonsoflibertymedia.com

and www.henrymakow.com

Take care and God bless.
 

cv5

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Okay have it your way.
You have gone way beyond anything I stated.

A good movie to watch at this juncture in history is "Idiocracy" for we are surely headed down that path.
I don't watch movies that are Satanic in origin and promote a globalist agenda.

All of the film and music industries are completely occultic and Satanic by the way....

https://vigilantcitizen.com/category/pics-of-the-month/
https://vigilantcitizen.com/category/musicbusiness/

If you choose to side with the wisdom of this world good luck to you.
 

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I will stick with the science and reject the folk lore, old wives tales, conjectures, speculation and bad reasoning like "if I get sick after a vaccine it is 99% sure to be the vaccine" That is not science and really rather an uneducated reasoning that comes natural but is not accurate. The value of science is that we can observe cause and effect under the microscope and identify the issues. Until the cause is identified no one should say they KNOW what it is. The ironic thing is that I have observed a type of personality that will KNOW for certain out of intuition, apriori knowledge and just speculation because they think their intuition is so POWERFUL that it does not require proof, and when they discover they were wrong, they do not learn from it and repeat the same belligerent behavior all over again determining that something is the way they say it is without evidence. And they get proven wrong again and again and they never just stop and say.. this time I am going to not conclude anything until I find out more information. These are the kinds of people who will swear on a stack of bibles that someone stole something from their Car, purse, house etc. only to find it later where they left it. And then do the same thing again the next month when they loose another item. They will tell you I KNOW that it was stolen and I think I KNOW who did it. And then they find it again and they never change. These are the kinds of people who KNOW that the vaccine made them sick or someone else and they haven't a shred of science to back them up. Don't even visit their house your liable to be accused of stealing something when they misplace it themselves. They will say I KNOW it was here on that table before so and so came for a visit and now it's gone. It is 99% evidence they took it. But then they will find and and do it all over again next time.
One of my family members is a scientist - a microbiologist - who is refusing the vaccine.