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  1. Ahwatukee

    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    You know the sad thing about this is that, the belief of the church going through God's wrath and being gathered afterwards shouldn't even be a belief or teaching. It should be understood by God's nature that He would not put His bride through His wrath right along with the wicked. This comes...
  2. Ahwatukee

    Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

    If God would have removed Noah and his family from the earth, then there would currently be no one on the earth. Therefore, Noah and his family had to remain on the earth to repopulate it. God also protected Lot and his family by removing them from the place that He was going to destroy, by...
  3. Ahwatukee

    HI, I'm new

    Hello Subhumanoidal, Let me ask you a question: Do you think that the teaching that the resurrection has already taken place as being nothing to be concerned about or that it is of no consequence? My point is that there are things being believed and taught that are eternal life threatening, the...
  4. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Well, here ya go then: "Seventy weeks (of years) are decreed for your people (Israel) and your holy city (Jerusalem) to stop their transgression, to put an end to sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most...
  5. Ahwatukee

    Was Paul a Torah observant Jew?

    Ok, I'm done. I've already showed you were he did speak against those who are attempting to keep the law. You guys can go on putting yourself under the law, if that is what you believe. As for me, I will not set aside salvation by grace through faith to embrace the works of the law. Paul did...
  6. Ahwatukee

    Was Paul a Torah observant Jew?

    Allow me to clarify. The Law is holy and righteous. The problem lies with us, mankind. Because of our sinful nature we are unable to meet the requirements of the law. And when we attempt to meet the requirements of the law, we fail which brings wrath and condemnation. This is why Paul states...
  7. Ahwatukee

    Was Paul a Torah observant Jew?

    I wish that you guys would stop with the BOLDING OF WORDS as though it was going to some how make what you are saying more believable. Let's make this simple. Do you believe that we are under the law to keep the works of the law as a means of salvation. Or, are we saved by grace through faith...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Agreed! Daniel 11 is in reference to the 2,300 days when Antiochus IV Epiphanes defiled the temple in 164 BC. While Daniel 9:27 is referring to the future event of the antichrist setting up an abomination in the holy place of the future temple.
  9. Ahwatukee

    HI, I'm new

    Greetings and Welcome, JanPossible! It is necessary to contend for the truth of God's word, because there is so much false teachings out there and which was also prophesied of.
  10. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    True! However, you have no fulfillment of the events mentioned by Daniel and quoted by Jesus. There was no seven year covenant made with Israel and no abomination was set up. And since Jesus returns to the earth to end the age at the end of that seven years, then this is another reason why those...
  11. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    God is going to deal with the unbelieving nation of Israel during the tribulation period as the fulfillment of that last seven years. During that last 3 1/2 years is when the antichrist will sit in the temple proclaiming himself to be God. So No! The times of the Gentiles is not over with! If...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    Which is false! The prophecy was given in Daniel 9:27 and was quoted by the Lord in Matt.24:15, which means that this event had not yet taken place and was yet future. Then you have no fulfillment of the characteristics of those events mentioned in between the time that Jesus quoted Daniel up...
  13. Ahwatukee

    Was Paul a Torah observant Jew?

    I could ask you the same question and in fact did! You're obviously not getting it. I can tell you that if you are claiming to keep the law of Moses, you are not. And when you fail at keeping the law, it brings wrath. Jesus did not appear on the earth as a human being to fulfill the law in...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    As I previously stated, from the time that Jesus quoted Daniel 9:27, no seven year covenant has been made and no abomination was set up in the temple. These events must have been fulfilled in order for you to make your claim, which they have not. And the "He" referred to three times in Daniel...
  15. Ahwatukee

    Was Paul a Torah observant Jew?

    You're just not understanding the scriptures which Paul wrote above then. For they speak salvation by faith vs. the works of the Law. Yes Paul did speak against observing the law. Did you not read the scripture that I provided for you where Paul, speaking of the works of the law and considering...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Why Daniel's 70th week must be in the future

    From the time that Jesus quoted Daniel 9:27 to the destruction of the temple, there has been no fulfillment of Daniel 9:27. There was no seven year covenant made and no abomination set up in the holy place with the temple. In no way has the 'time of the Gentiles' come to an end. That won't...
  17. Ahwatukee

    Was Paul a Torah observant Jew?

    As long as there are those who are trusting in the Law as a requirement for salvation, this topic needs to be discussed, because trusting in the Law as a requirement for salvation will keep one out of the kingdom of God. ================================================================ Acts...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Was Paul a Torah observant Jew?

    (Continued) Galatians 2:19-21 For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Was Paul a Torah observant Jew?

    Hello Blik, Well ... you ae not disagreeing with me, but with the word of God. As we continue from faith to faith, we are being transformed into the image of Christ by the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. It is not done by keeping the Law. His commandments are to believe in the One whom...