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Still the Joel passage is yet not fully fulfilled. Or was Israel in Jesus time a country living in peace and prosperous? No it was not! So you take it out of the context, if you claim this was fully fulfilled. Many take the Joel passage and put it on the today pentecostal movement. This is...

Sorry, it is Joel 2, 22- 28 ff

rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month. 24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil. 25 And I will restore...

So Matthew 28, 19 is not word of God? ✝ Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" Bible https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kjv.BIBLE

Correct, and this alone was the purpose for this report. According your view, then speaking in tongues was normal in the jewish culture? I dont think so. As you quote while Peter preached the Holy Spirit fallen on all who heared the word. There was no asking for the gift, there was no asking...

So speaking in tongues was very normal for them? And they expectet to got this gift? But they did not expect to got the Holy Spirit? Come on, this is not logic. Both belongs together. Speaking in tongues was the sign, that they received the Holy Spirit. And no One of the gathered expectet...

Well this is a biblical truth for Acts 2,8,10 and 19 as sign for the jews. But the teaching you are talking from starts in 1900 in Topeka. If you would be right, then there is a around 1850 years gap in church historie. Because it was not taught and practised during the churchhistorie. Non...

This makes no sense. Either it is for all or not. Ot is not depend to believe or teach it first. The believers in Acts 2,8 10 and 19 did not expect to speak in tongues and they were not taught orcasked to believe it. It was simply there! So the believers who are not " TRULY" been baptised...

You should read my post again. I did not say that nobody spoke in tongues during church historie.

Nothing new. This are no proof that every believer who received the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. Its a sign/proof thst the Holy Spirit is given to all mankind and not only the jews, as they expectet. This teaching came up in 1900, begore there are evidence of spesking in tongues in...

Well, all pentecostals and charismatics i met in my life told me this. Also here on CC. Well, then maby you should research. If you ask them for bible reference, then they answer because of Acts 2,8,10 and 19. According what you are saying. I am then no believer, because I have not the gift...

Why then almost all pentecostals/charismatics use Acts 2,8, 10 and 19 as reason for there claim that speaking in tongues is the sign that someone received the Holy Spirit?

Sorry, my post to Thererosealamb was not finnished yet.

Well, misbehaviour, false understand Service, do not can justify to change Gods word. Gods decision has to do with the creation order and Evas sin. Not to dominate over man. Our society today shows what happend if there is no authority there. Dont misunderstand me. The Man should love his...

Was it taught in Acts 2 that they will speak in tongues?

Part 2, i came to esrly of the reply Button. ... And this contradicts to the common pentecostal/charismatic teaching that all receiving the gift of speaking in tongues who is baptised with the Holy Spirit.

Well i cant agree! Thats someone reject the gift of speaking in tongues assumes that gift was given. But you blame people who got not this gift, it is because they reject it. I cant reject, what is not given to me. The gift I got i to discern the spirits. And i did not ask for. The same Paul...

So is the Scripture given from the Holy Spirit or man's ideas? Is that what Paul wrote Gods word, given from the Holy Spirit or not?

Here we are again. The thing is that there is a different scripture understanding between the Pro and Contra sides. If you see the present situation between man and woman in society you find out that the authority of man becames very down. ( As all authoritys common) And an authority from a...

Why not? You also can spread the gospel to everybody!