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So you earn you salvation by works done in faith? Not wanting to be harsh, but that seems to be what you're ultimately saying.

So do you have eternal security?

That's a misunderstanding of what happened. It has never been by works (keeping of the law) except for Adam and Jesus. Old and New Covenant, it's always been by grace through faith, and we're told that their fault was "For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word...

That's not at all my understanding. We are clothed in the righteousness of Christ. Having heard a sermon on this, when a large feast was held, the guests would be supplied garments to wear. This would be the case (as I understand it) in the parable of the Great Banquet. That said, there is...

Galatians 1:15. 1 Peter 2:19. If it's not election (unconditional election) then it's automatically merited salvation, and since we know that isn't the case, then we come to the conclusion all of salvation is from God and by God. If even the faith isn't a gift from God, then you saved yourself...

When you learn the general doctrine, and then see it confirmed in verses like Acts 13:48, I would tend to say that yes, election is concerning salvation. I think it's pretty tough to say that Esau was saved (salvation) when it says God hated him. One place it is sort of mentioned together is...

I think we're a ways apart on this. I don't think that typically being of ethnic Israel is any factor in salvation. There are ethnic Israelis saved because they were foreknew, no different than a gentile being saved. (Think Paul or Luke for example). I think that Romans 11:25-32 talks of...

Y I'll try to be kind and not slanderous here, but I don't get the impression you're overly open to hearing another view. The impression when I read the 3rd last sentence is that you're stating that anyone who teaches justification upon faith is a false teacher. (heritic)That's pretty harsh...

Sorry, I immediately replied without reading /making sure I answered your question. I also appreciate dialogue. The criteria absolutely is something other than being of Israel. I would think it's God's sovereignty, along the lines of "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy" Even in the old...

The way I read it, and I realize your (and my) struggle with this, is that because of His love for the patriarchs, He will, in the end, after the fullness of the gentiles has come in, convert all (ethnic) Israel to Christ. Where I think I struggle with it is that not all who are descended...

Because of context, and his specific mention of the fullness of the gentiles coming in, I take it to mean ethnic Israel. Going back to Romans 11, v28-As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the...

No. Jesus is the only way, and always has been the only way. Old and new covenant. Acts 4:12. John 14:6. Romans 11:25-32 is what I'm referring to concerning there being a future for Israel. It's laid out far too clearly for me to ignore. My understanding of it would be that in the end, after...

I'd agree with most of what you say, but the context of Romans 5 doesn't allow for the pre conversion view. (IMO) Romans 8:33-Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. It's true that God chose the elect before the beginning of time, but the context of...

This is really the problem with non reformed theology. One person seems to be completely hung up on works, the next on grace. The next can't accept the clear teachings of unconditional election. Do reformed folks get things wrong? Absolutely. Off the top of my head, they would be the general...

Romans 9 teaches firmly against what you're espousing here from BibleGateWay 10 Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. 11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12...

That is not what scripture teaches. Ephesians 2:1- "As for you, you were DEAD in your transgressions and sins" Dead is dead, it doesn't mean you're taking your last breath, about to die, it means dead. A dead person can't repent. God passes over them, choosing to leave them in their sin. If...

Thank you all for your concern. I'm still struggling, but sort of moving ahead. I'm really struggling with spiritual apathy, which makes it harder to fight sin, which makes the apathy worse. I just really desire to be out of the apathy. To be honest, I really desire to be done with sin, but...

Good afternoon. I posted a while ago about Hebrews 10:26. https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/very-concerned-about-hebrews-10-26-new-member.198577/. Thank you for all your thoughts and support on this. It did bring me comfort. I have been doing better since then, actually having...

Hi guys, Thank you for everything. I guess what I'm really concerned about is that I blashemed the Holy Spirit. I was walking in grace alright, and then this happened. Immediately, I lost a piece of myself. When the Holy Spirit first came in I was very happy, then I got depressed because the...

I was looking up a personal email. Not anything inappropriate, but wasting company time. I'm afraid that He was calling me to repentance in that moment, and I failed. I have since failed in fighting sin, which scares me all the more.