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  1. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Hi hope you dont mind i would like to hear everybodies thoughts on your reply that all scripture been wrote by the holy spirit. @Pilgrimshope @JaumeJ @1ofthem @Absolutely @AandW @Mem @Dino246 @Magenta @Lucy-Pevensie @glen55 @Gideon300 @Runningman @Ahwatukee @tourist. @Blade @Rolly...
  2. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    The will of our father is for all to be saved, you know this andy. we ourselfs also have a will. The most respect i have for Gods will is the fact that Jesus would never bow down to satan or give him an inch or do anything he was asked to do by satan. (you know if satan gets an inch he takes a...
  3. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has...
  4. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    the word of God is not evil. the word of satan is. the word of satan is clearly in Job 1 and that word should not be defended. your infering somthing else of me. i showed you all in this thread many many times where Jesus God does not defend Satans word. way befor i even mentioned the quran...
  5. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Many muslims have read the quran and become christian. jacky chan is a great example. i love his sermons. he even preaches live on the streets in the middle east to muslims. he can get through to them better because he knows the quran. I was told to fully get to know my enemy By God and God...
  6. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    This is the problem i have andy, is i can not accept God allows suffering for so long befor he puts an end to it especially from the hands of those suffering at the hands of demons. I really cant accept this, it really is like rubbing salt into my wounds. My biggest reason i cant accept this...
  7. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Perhaps God was showing us something in Job 1. you have a point. But there certainly is something missing in Job 1, Job 1 has opened my eyes to many sciptures, and Job 1 has shown me something that way. But it hasnt shown many other people what it has shown me.
  8. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    @Pilgrimshope @JaumeJ @1ofthem @Absolutely @AandW @Mem @Dino246 @Magenta @Lucy-Pevensie @glen55 @Gideon300 @Runningman @Ahwatukee @tourist. @Blade @Rolly @Nehemiah6 So heres another good summary on temptation from satan. Satan became proud and felt shamed when God opposed him in heaven for...
  9. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    nope i called it the holy quran, because thats thats what its known as. not because i believe that it is. your just trying to cast more doubt.
  10. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    1. First, this passage points us to the defeat of evil in the incarnation, suffering, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Though the passage begins with a war in heaven (v. 4a, expanded in vv. 7-9), the dragon is defeated and thrown down! The details of the passage hint first at the primordial...
  11. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    @Pilgrimshope @JaumeJ @1ofthem @Absolutely @AandW @Mem @Dino246 @Magenta @Lucy-Pevensie @glen55 @Gideon300 @Runningman @Ahwatukee @tourist. @Blade @Rolly @Nehemiah6 Heres a better account for you from a biblical scholar please tell me what you think, i think its 100 percent accurate Many...
  12. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    @Pilgrimshope @JaumeJ @1ofthem @Absolutely @AandW @Mem @Dino246 @Magenta @Lucy-Pevensie @glen55 @Gideon300 @Runningman @Ahwatukee @tourist. @Blade @Rolly @Nehemiah6 Ok so heres a good summary of temptation what do you all think of this. im saying when satan tempts somebody it is a bad...
  13. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    yup thats all im getting is false miss repesentations,
  14. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    you totaly have the wrong idea of me.
  15. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Andy im saying to tempt somebody is bad, You know like an aldult giving a child drugs. The aldult says hey kid would like to try some of this, the kid falls the temptation and gets addicted to drugs. What im saying is God does not give anyone permission to tempt somebody. Satans temptataion...
  16. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    You know andy i like you your honest, Satan dose not need to be tempted. he is the tempter. That is what the holy spirit called him. the tempter and the accuser of Gods children. but its obvious hes a wicked tempter and a wicked accuser, this is what people are failing to recognise. God does...
  17. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    @Absolutely please notice i have returned your two replies with a blank responce because thats all there worth goodbye your on my ignor.
  18. de-emerald

    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    I cant possably begin to answer all your points just now, as you havent even aknowledge some great points of view from a biblical scholar, and the best reasoning i have ever herd of revalation. which clearly suggests that being accused by satan is not authorised from God, because hes the...