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    The Real Antichrist For The End

    Well, what you say here is a little misleading... because, well, take a look at another example (of MANY EXAMPLES we could look at), where the following verse (USING AN "INDEFINITE PRONOUN" [of G5100]) says: -- https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/luk/13/23/t_conc_986023 - "Then said one [G5100...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    I did so in an earlier post, either in this thread or the other one... but I'll try again here: --where Matthew 24:39 says, "And THEY knew not until the flood came, and took THEM all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be"... the "THEY / THEM" who "KNEW NOT UNTIL9 was not Noah (he...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    No. I've not made that point whatsoever. [There WILL be people coming to faith in Christ when they find themselves IN the Tribulation Period. They are called "saints" also; just as, at times, members of "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (that's us) are also called "saints"] ____________ BTW...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    It will ALSO be like THIS: --Daniel 7:22 [PARALLEL WORDING to that of Rev20:4a] - "Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.19 [see also vv.25,27]; --Daniel 12:12 [PARALLEL to about 8 other...
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    The Real Antichrist For The End

    :) Hi WilliamL, and welcome to CC. I must disagree with what you are presenting here, for the following reasons: -- Jesus is saying (in your verse ^ ) "FOR many...," because in the previous verse He had just spoken of the "individual-person" He's wanting them to be IN PARTICULAR aware of and...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    So you are saying that you DISAGREE that Jesus' words in VERSE 22 refer to what He was speaking of in v.21 (the period of time that STARTS with v.15's circumstances)?? : Mat 24:15 ¶ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand [/standing] in...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    Where "ewq193829 mentions the 3.5 years and references "Rev11, 13," those speak to the SECOND HALF of the "7 year period" (i.e. starting at the MID-trib point); but there are 3.5 years (the FIRST HALF) that PRECEDE that... and ALL related passages AGREE. The "whose COMING / ARRIVAL / ADVENT /...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    I've mentioned these before (I think in this thread), but here I'll mention just a couple again: --the Daniel 9:24-27 time-prophecy (regarding "THY [DANIEL'S] PEOPLE39 and "THY [DANIEL'S] HOLY CITY") is written out SEQUENTIALLY; and is very PRECISE (timing-wise); --between Rev4:1-5 [up there]...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    As I see it, it doesn't even matter whether the 2 "the" are there in verse 14 (Rev7:14), because of several other factors: --Jesus didn't use the definite article ('THE') when referring to 49For then shall be GREAT tribulation" (Matt24:21), speaking of a very specific point in time (Matt24:15)...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    Here's why... as I see it: "6But we speak wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to naught. 7But we speak in a mystery, the wisdom of God having been hidden, which God foreordained before the ages for our glory, 8which none of the...
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    The rapture? The comimg of Christ.

    Right. And the Daniel 9:24-27 "time-prophecy" is WRITTEN SEQUENTIALLY. That means, this is the SEQUENCE: 1) "FROM... UNTO the Messiah the Prince... seven Weeks/sevens and threescore and two Weeks/sevens" (69 Weeks/sevens total--which CONCLUDED on what we call "Palm Sunday," when Jesus SAID...
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    The Coming Tribulation: Many Brethren Are Ignorant About It

    ^ Those ideas are neglecting to note that 59Rev1:1 / 1:19c / 4:1" speaks SPECIFICALLY to "[to SHEW unto...] ... things which must come to pass IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" (NOT things which would unfold over the course of some near-2000 years, as the Historicists have it; NOT things which would take...
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    Netanyahu

    No, that individual ("man of sin") is not "Satan," but it is said of this individual, "whose coming / advent / arrival / presence / parousia is AFTER [/according to] the working of Satan..." (they are distinct persons); Not only that, there69s a distinction in the timeline (regarding the above...
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    The Coming Tribulation: Many Brethren Are Ignorant About It

    I don't see in the text of Daniel chapter 3, that Daniel was among those cast into the "fiery furnace". (Compare Dan2:49 [esp. v.49c--about Daniel] with Daniel 3:12-14,19-23 and context [about "Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego"])
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    The Coming Tribulation: Many Brethren Are Ignorant About It

    The only thing I disagree with in this otherwise good sentence ( :) ) is the word "symbolic". It is not a "symbolic" measure of time, but a literal measure of time: 79seventy SEVENS [shebua - H7620]". It is CONTEXT which determines whether "sevens [of YEARS]" or "sevens [of DAYS]" or "sevens...
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    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    Right! (y) Very true. Also, the Daniel 9:24-27 "time-prophecy" is WRITTEN SEQUENTIALLY, so yes [!] the "70th Week89 (90for ONE WEEK [7 yrs]91) takes place SEQUENTIALLY AFTER the 70ad events. Which ALSO AGREES with the SEQUENCE ISSUES of the Olivet Discourse: --92the beginning of birth PANGS93...
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    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    Well, that verse shows his 94intention / aim / objective95... but he96s not successful in his endeavor entirely, otherwise 1) Rev15:2 couldn97t say (as it does) 98...them that GOT THE VICTORY OVER the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name...99 ; Now while it is...
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    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    I know I've stated this before, but I'll say it again here: [a few brief points, coz I don't have a lot of time for typing right now] --Rev1:1 / 1:19c / 4:1 = "[TO SHEW unto..] ...things which must come to pass IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" (not "soon [adverb]"); --"the beginning of birth PANGS" =...
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    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    Right. But they are not THE ONLY ONES who 109reign" with Christ. (See Rev5:9-10 / 1:5-6 / 2:26-27). The ones being spoken of in 20:4b (you are quoting) are simply the last ones to be *killed / martyred / beheaded* [in 2nd HALF of Trib] (and resurrected in time FOR the MK age); The ones in 20:4a...
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    Question for those who believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

    Nah. Many of us believe that the "whose COMING / ADVENT / ARRIVAL / PRESENCE / PAROUSIA" of him (per 2Th2:9a) starts way back at Daniel 11:36, where that text states, "And the king shall do according to his will" [i.e. regime-change language used elsewhere in Daniel, to refer to a new leader, in...