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Everlasting grace:There is a way to quote certain parts of a post so you can directly that part. You can highlight the part you want to discuss, and up on the toolbar where you see the 3 dots. Click that then click quote. Or you can do as I did here and type in [ / quote ] (no spaces) at the...

Everlasting grace: is there a reason you post the way you do? Why are you repeating what I said outside of the box? that makes it confusing in itself. WB: Sorry for the confusion especially so as my intention is to avoid that very thing. Often times in forums recipients of posts will, for...

Many thanks - appreciated. I've bookmarked the Berean Bible Study Group and will dive into this soon.

WB: In talking about someone who makes a false claim you've moved the goalposts because I've been talking about an unbeliever being made spiritually alive i.e. regenerated i.e. born again in an instant when God's gift of faith 'opens the (former) unbelievers mind and heart to the reality of...

WillB said: Genesis informs that God created over a period of 6 literal days and in Exodus this information is further developed when God informs that He set His creative work as a pattern for the nation of Israel to follow. They were to work for 6 days and rest for 1 day. This makes sense only...

Jocund: God created Job in a womb, through the natural gestation process. Job wasn't created instantaneously in a mature form. There is nothing in scripture that states that the creation account was instantaneous. There is nothing in scripture that states that evolution wasn't used as a tool in...

The faith that I've been talking about is saving faith i.e. a 'natural' i.e. carnal man who is spiritually dead is in an instant on receiving the gift of faith from God 'born again' i.e. regenerated i.e. made spiritually alive. If you've followed the exchanges with Freegrace2 you'll see that...

You are deliberately contentious - something you do with others - and I have no interest in engaging with someone of that mindset and so you can continue to try to pick a fight but I choose to take Scriptural counsel and to turn down fights. Goodbye.

WB: In talking about someone who makes a false claim you've moved the goalposts because I've been talking about an unbeliever being made spiritually alive i.e. regenerated i.e. born again in an instant when God's gift of faith 'opens the (former) unbelievers mind and heart to the reality of...

WB: Would you agree that an 'unregenerate' man is spiritually dead? If you agree, you will perhaps also agree that when an unregenerate man is gifted with faith that in that instant he is changed from 'dead' to 'alive' i.e. he is born again i.e. regenerated. And by the way I was not...

WillB said: The point at issue which you raised is about faith and salvation in which you claim that faith precedes salvation. FreeGrace2: The Bible teaches that faith precedes salvation. Eph 2:5 is the verse that equates "being made alive" or regeneration, with being saved. They are...

WB: In that case you have completely misunderstood. Not just me. But the purpose of the Bible which contains the Gospel i.e. the Good News of God's saving grace. "For I am not ashamed of the gospel for it is the power of God for salvation......." Romans 1: 16ff

FreeGrace2 said: Every verse that evangelizes someone is proof. Who is the gospel presented to anyway? Unregenerates. Why do it if they can't respond? That would make no sense. And Calvinists just do not understand that. WillB said: WB: You seem to be missing the point. The point at issue...

WB: You seem to be missing the point. The point at issue which you raised is about faith and salvation in which you claim that faith precedes salvation. When a Christian evangelizes to an unregenerate person there are two possible outcomes. First, the unregenerate person can reject the...

WB: You acknowledge "we're talking about two DIFFERENT ideas of the same thing (subject) but you then say we're not disagreeing on the subject. Do you see the contradiction? You haven't taken into consideration what Motyer had to say and you haven't addressed the other points I raised which...

WillB said: FreeGrace2 said: Eph 2:8 gives the answer to that excellent question. We are saved by grace through faith. Our faith is the means of salvation, and that by grace. Faith precedes salvation. WillB said: Will: Thanks for your response - appreciated. FreeGrace2: You are welcome. :)...

WillB said: Will: Okay. Thanks for clearing up that point - appreciated. But the Earth was created for the purpose of providing a Paradise home to humans to live in forever, was it not? And in Revelation, Jesus informs "Then I saw a new heaven and a new Earth...." Revelation 21: 1ff Does this...

FreeGrace2 said: Eph 2:8 gives the answer to that excellent question. We are saved by grace through faith. Our faith is the means of salvation, and that by grace. Faith precedes salvation. WillB said: Will: Thanks for your response - appreciated. FreeGrace2: You are welcome. :) WB: So, faith...

Will: Thanks for your response - appreciated. So, faith comes first followed by salvation, right? From where, or from whom, does faith come? Is faith something that a fallen corrupt sinner can work out intellectually entirely on his own? Or is faith a gift from God? If it is the latter does...

Will: Okay. Thanks for clearing up that point - appreciated. But the Earth was created for the purpose of providing a Paradise home to humans to live in forever, was it not? And in Revelation, Jesus informs "Then I saw a new heaven and a new Earth...." Revelation 21: 1ff Does this not inform...